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johnnyreb

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15. I posted last August about meeting a Liberty veteran:

Wed Jan 14, 2015, 01:31 PM

Jan 2015

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5389517

I bumped into a guy with a USS Liberty hat last week!

I was at a local hamburger joint in central South Carolina... local grease-pit, not a chain. There by the window was a big strapping older man with his wife. His hat looked like it had a service emblem... as I neared I saw "USS Liberty"! It was a clean crisp hat, blasting USS Liberty in vivid color. I put down my tray and we chatted. He was very grateful for the recognition, that someone knew. Actually I told him, I didn't "know". I knew the controversy, the allegations. But that there are entities on the internet that feebly attempt to sow doubt with admonitions about hearings and commissions and how you have to be a laughingstock to want to know American history. And while they're clearly disrupting, maybe their vast storehouse of arcane knowledge of American history has given them one or two points on this Liberty thing for all I know. But no, this sailor was there, it was deliberate, and is a continuing coverup. The disappointment and anger in his manner was penetrating. Just like the youtubes you can find of his shipmates speaking at their memorials. He recommends the book "Assault on the Liberty" by James Ennes. He also wrote down "Attack on the Liberty," with "John", but he didn't remember that author's name. It was quite an experience speaking with him over dripping cold hamburgers (we talked awhile).

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Did anyone catch this documentary Al Jazeera? I'm blown away by it... [View all] MrMickeysMom Jan 2015 OP

Here's a BBC documentary on the subject, available online Electric Monk Jan 2015 #1

Thanks, EM... MrMickeysMom Jan 2015 #2

I did not know this. oldandhappy Jan 2015 #3

The more I educate myself, the less I am, too, O&H MrMickeysMom Jan 2015 #4

I have an acquaintance who was wounded during the attack on the Liberty. He stated ... Scuba Jan 2015 #5

That appears so evident... MrMickeysMom Jan 2015 #6

Now it makes sense why Bush bombed them twice and wanted to bomb them a third JonLP24 Jan 2015 #7

I never know how to assess our media, but this one is managed from NYC... MrMickeysMom Jan 2015 #8

I haven't read this one yet but I based my comment JonLP24 Jan 2015 #9

As far as I can tell, that was the worst unprovoked attack against the US cpwm17 Jan 2015 #10

That would be about 13 years before MrMickeysMom Jan 2015 #11

I have seen a documentary on it some time back. zeemike Jan 2015 #12

After that incident, the Israelis knew... MrMickeysMom Jan 2015 #13

I was in Asmara listening during the murders. I'm angry enough over Israel alfredo Jan 2015 #14

I posted last August about meeting a Liberty veteran: johnnyreb Jan 2015 #15

Assault on the Liberty is an excellent account pinboy3niner Jan 2015 #16

I wonder, do you think it might be disrespectful for others to wear those hats? MrMickeysMom Jan 2015 #31

I'm not the one to ask... johnnyreb Jan 2015 #35

N-a-a-a-ah.. MrMickeysMom Jan 2015 #40

Some folks are very invested in perpetuating this bogus myth oberliner Jan 2015 #17

Myth: no: it was obviously a deliberate attack cpwm17 Jan 2015 #18

Israel apologized for the attack and paid large sums of money to compensate the victims. oberliner Jan 2015 #22

They were caught so what else would Israel do then? cpwm17 Jan 2015 #27

What would you like to see happen now? What else do you want Israel to do? oberliner Jan 2015 #28

Nothing can be done about this particular incident. cpwm17 Jan 2015 #29

You know exactly why leftynyc Jan 2015 #20

You are so right. Behind the Aegis Jan 2015 #37

so you're saying al Jazeera America changed its schedule to show this program azurnoir Jan 2015 #38

Did they? Behind the Aegis Jan 2015 #44

Stations like al Jazeera America repeat their special frequently Current did it too azurnoir Jan 2015 #45

I created this thread because I caught the program this week... MrMickeysMom Jan 2015 #47

What was "radical" was the timing. Behind the Aegis Jan 2015 #48

How so? MrMickeysMom Jan 2015 #49

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So what now? oberliner Jan 2015 #33

Wrong question... MrMickeysMom Jan 2015 #34

That seems unlikely oberliner Jan 2015 #36

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From Wikipedia oberliner Jan 2015 #42

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That article is a good read for those who don't know the background. KoKo Jan 2015 #25

I have heard every arguement on this and have yet to hear what was the benefit to Israel if it was dilby Jan 2015 #21

I suppose that is my thought too. I am never one to shy away from criticizing Israel - to put it Douglas Carpenter Jan 2015 #23

The friend of my enemy is my friend or the enemy of my friend is my friend or...never mind. Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2015 #24

Thank you for bring this back to my attention. Jim Beard Jan 2015 #26

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And then there was the USS Stark incident. NuclearDem Jan 2015 #43

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