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Fumesucker

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86. And I was pointing out that without experience you really don't know what's going on

Wed Jan 14, 2015, 08:19 PM

Jan 2015

Nancy's "concerns" are all based on theory rather than personal experience, the map is not the terrain and until you personally walk the terrain you really don't know it.

I specifically included the passage about poverty and how people who study the poor don't really understand what's going on with the poor kids they are studying in order to show that it's easy to take the wrong conclusion from a given behavior. Poor kids lack self discipline is a bullshit meme based on a flawed unconscious premise, the flawed premise being that everyone grows up in an environment which positively rewards a child for delaying gratification.

Lack of relevant personal experience is absolutely an impediment to understanding someone else's concerns, that's a major theme of this board in regards to sex and race and even religion, why would it be different for money?

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A couple of recent threads that touch on the issue of experience vs intellectual knowledge Fumesucker Jan 2015 #81

What I brought up ... NanceGreggs Jan 2015 #85

And I was pointing out that without experience you really don't know what's going on Fumesucker Jan 2015 #86

We might be speaking at cross purposes. NanceGreggs Jan 2015 #87

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