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delrem

(9,688 posts)
22. I don't know how to "solve these problems",
Thu Jan 15, 2015, 04:04 AM
Jan 2015

but the first step might be for the people of the USA to be a little more reflective and honest about their role.

In the USA's illegal and immoral war of choice against Iraq, it wasn't "thousands killed", it was over 100 thousand, and even more maimed and the country was destroyed. Iraq's schools, hospitals, electrical grid, roads and bridges destroyed. Their cities destroyed. In the US's illegal and immoral "regime change" operation against Syria, begun under Obama/HRC but following the identical PNAC program as underlay the US's destruction of Iraq, Syria is being destroyed and ISIS is being armed, funded and trained either directly or through US proxies. "Moderate rebels" my ass!

The US destroyed Libya. It is conducting terror operations using drones piloted half a world away to fire hellfire missiles at "signature targets" (always called "terrorists" after the fact) in half a dozen countries in the mid-east that it isn't at war with.

You KNOW this - yet point your finger at "Islamic terrorists" as being the problem.

You seem to think you, personally, are "suffering" from some blowback. You say:
"This ISIS and AlQuida business is the biggest threat to the world that I've ever seen", and appear totally oblivious to the extent of the US criminal war enterprise in the mid-east and to the fact that the US is the *cause* of that carnage. Because that carnage doesn't impact you, and you don't identify with the arab people. Instead, you blame the victims, the people of the countries that the US destroyed and is destroying, and you want a faster and greater US military buildup over there to alleviate your fright and apprehension.

You lightly pass it off: "We put a lot of money into defending some allies" as if these illegal and immoral US wars are somehow in self-defence, and as if the US under both Republican and Democratic administrations isn't the leader and motivator for all of those wars, and as if the Republican and Democratic administrations are somehow different, as if the Democratic administration is somehow exonerated for what it is doing.

IMO your way of thinking is a product of total immersion in MSM war propaganda in service of big oil and the MIC, in service of wall street and the most cynical of politics.



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We need it, for sure, rose, elleng Jan 2015 #1
Agree, it certainly would make everyone stand up and pay attention. Also, if the Bush crap had RKP5637 Jan 2015 #4
Exactly. elleng Jan 2015 #6
Yep, the huge profiteers in the MIC! As has been said many times, a racket. What always bothers me RKP5637 Jan 2015 #13
No one hates the draft more than military. tritsofme Jan 2015 #2
But the draft is a great idea from a social point of view: re Germany's Zivildienst DetlefK Jan 2015 #33
So - we are going to police the whole world? How, exactly, would that work? n/t djean111 Jan 2015 #3
This dumb draftee is against it but acknowledges there is merit to a citizens' army Brother Buzz Jan 2015 #5
And they made friends everywhere they went fadedrose Jan 2015 #16
The military currently turns away 80% madville Jan 2015 #7
Sounds like things that would tend to disqualify the poor more than the rich shawn703 Jan 2015 #14
++++++++++++++++ fadedrose Jan 2015 #18
obesity is huge oldandhappy Jan 2015 #19
LOL...I was thinking the same thing. NaturalHigh Jan 2015 #27
80% do you have a link for that? Cosmic Kitten Jan 2015 #28
This report says 75%. former9thward Jan 2015 #30
And I'll say the same thing I do every time he does: Ykcutnek Jan 2015 #8
I like that one. NaturalHigh Jan 2015 #26
Anybody in favor of a draft gets to go first Lurks Often Jan 2015 #9
They should walk point with the Infantry... pinboy3niner Jan 2015 #10
Were you really scared when delrem Jan 2015 #11
Actually, I was fadedrose Jan 2015 #15
Do you really think that you're "suffering" for the PNAC program? delrem Jan 2015 #20
Not suffering fadedrose Jan 2015 #21
I don't know how to "solve these problems", delrem Jan 2015 #22
Everything you say is true fadedrose Jan 2015 #24
I'm dismayed by your statement delrem Jan 2015 #34
We can't afford a fair draft hack89 Jan 2015 #12
I am glad he brings this up yearly. oldandhappy Jan 2015 #17
war is a failed system olddots Jan 2015 #23
Politicians hide themselves away Johonny Jan 2015 #25
Every citizen should do two years of military or civil service tabasco Jan 2015 #29
If a draft ever passes Democrats will get the blame because of Rangel. former9thward Jan 2015 #31
If it passes Canada will have a massive upsurge in tourism. Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2015 #32
I look forward to the new anti-war movement, so bring back the draft. Maybe we'd get some ND-Dem Jan 2015 #35
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