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163. Now your just moving the goal posts...

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Thu Jan 15, 2015, 09:27 AM

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The Second Amendment is for everyone — it’s time we armed the children [View all] Katashi_itto Jan 2015 OP

So, when people talk about voting rights and marriage rights they obviously mean Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2015 #1

Wow...that's a real leap there... Katashi_itto Jan 2015 #2

So is the OP article. Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2015 #6

Lol...your challenged when it comes to satire aren't you. Katashi_itto Jan 2015 #10

That's not satire. It's an attempt to impose an argument no one is making. Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2015 #14

Lol...doubling down..to funny Katashi_itto Jan 2015 #17

Please point out where advocates of the RKBA want gun ownership for minor children. Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2015 #22

Lololol... Katashi_itto Jan 2015 #37

Classic! daleanime Jan 2015 #74

Nailed it! mikeysnot Jan 2015 #80

Yes, guns kill. Killing rapists is a good thing and guns are good at it. Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2015 #117

And just how many rapists were killed by guns in 2014? mikeysnot Jan 2015 #142

"And just how many rapists were killed by guns in 2014?" Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2015 #144

No I care more about facts of which mikeysnot Jan 2015 #146

You questioned how many rapists were stopped by an armed victim. Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2015 #147

"That implies a certain threshold " mikeysnot Jan 2015 #148

"NO, I did not state there was a threshold..." Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2015 #149

Obviously you are here to waste peoples time... mikeysnot Jan 2015 #150

Didn't read the CDC report that said that guns are used for self-defense often and effectively? hack89 Jan 2015 #151

Did you even read what you posted? mikeysnot Jan 2015 #162

So the CDC has a pro gun agenda hack89 Jan 2015 #164

Face palm again... mikeysnot Jan 2015 #167

Like these stats haven't been posted a hundred times already on DU Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2015 #152

Keyword here is... wait for it! mikeysnot Jan 2015 #161

Those are peer reviewed studies. Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2015 #166

Show me were they are peer reviewded mikeysnot Jan 2015 #169

"You made a ridiculous claim..." beevul Jan 2015 #155

Not as big as the GUN VICTIMS LIST! mikeysnot Jan 2015 #158

It is a swarm ^^^^^ mikeysnot Jan 2015 #157

Sorry you folks own that, too. tradewinds Jan 2015 #40

None of those children own those guns Recursion Jan 2015 #44

You do not know that. tradewinds Jan 2015 #46

I know that. former9thward Jan 2015 #72

Yes, I do, because I actually know the gun laws in the US Recursion Jan 2015 #122

Whomever owns those guns probably shouldn't be legal owners of guns CreekDog Jan 2015 #124

What's wrong with how the guns are being used? Recursion Jan 2015 #125

Guns are not props either CreekDog Jan 2015 #127

I watched enough meathead Jan 2015 #128

They also believe AgingAmerican Jan 2015 #64

That's what she does! mikeysnot Jan 2015 #79

It's not diversion or misdirection to point out the fact the OP is a straw man. Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2015 #116

Projection... mikeysnot Jan 2015 #143

You obviously have no idea what those terms mean. Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2015 #145

are you an ostrich? mikeysnot Jan 2015 #159

The OP is claiming, through failed satire, that RKBA advocates would expand gun ownership Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2015 #160

Now your just moving the goal posts... mikeysnot Jan 2015 #163

No, that is the goalpost. RKBA advocates have no desire to expand gun ownership rights to children. Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2015 #165

The keyword you use is ownership? mikeysnot Jan 2015 #168

So, in your mind if X number of deaths occur from a thing you want that thing banned? Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2015 #170

Just admit it... mikeysnot Jan 2015 #174

We know you're a gun grabber. What is left to discern is WHY. Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2015 #175

That was just about as pathetic mikeysnot Jan 2015 #176

Do you actually have an arguable assertion to make or do you just run off at the fingertips? Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2015 #177

I'm still waiting to hear yours? mikeysnot Jan 2015 #179

The OP is about grabbers making a straw man argument that pro-RKBA want to arm children. Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2015 #180

Are you saying that gun nuts mikeysnot Feb 2015 #181

Please point to the portion of the 2nd Am. that restricts, or allows restrictions based on age. tradewinds Jan 2015 #7

Point to the portion of the 14A that restricts marriage rights by age. Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2015 #12

Ain't there. tradewinds Jan 2015 #31

So, then it is your contention that becaue the 2A has no age restriction it is bad? Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2015 #53

Why would you even ask such a thing. tradewinds Jan 2015 #59

For the same reason I support marriage age restrictions. Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2015 #65

Err... the word "militia" Recursion Jan 2015 #16

Given that, how doyou expand the right to private ownership?? tradewinds Jan 2015 #21

Me? Through the 9th Amendment Recursion Jan 2015 #23

Seeing as the militia must provide its own arms the right of the people Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2015 #24

What is the age restriction outlined in 2nd Am.? tradewinds Jan 2015 #26

The same as the age restriction for marriage in the 14A. Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2015 #29

So, you fully support arming 1 and 2 year old children? tradewinds Jan 2015 #32

So, you fully support marriage for 1 and 2 year old children? Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2015 #55

No, I do not. tradewinds Jan 2015 #60

I take it you support restrictions on the Right to Choice then? NutmegYankee Jan 2015 #84

Silly, you seem to take as a given that there is such a thing as "gun rights" that areanywhere near tradewinds Jan 2015 #85

So in other words, you're being hypocritical. NutmegYankee Jan 2015 #88

Not a bit. tradewinds Jan 2015 #91

Prove it. NutmegYankee Jan 2015 #93

The proof is on its face. tradewinds Jan 2015 #95

I.E. You got nothing. NutmegYankee Jan 2015 #97

I have everything. tradewinds Jan 2015 #99

Oh WOW! Emoticons! So Convincing! NutmegYankee Jan 2015 #101

Duck!! tradewinds Jan 2015 #103

So the enumerated rights in the Bill of Rights are not really rights? hack89 Jan 2015 #129

Go play with your guns. tradewinds Jan 2015 #132

You are pretty immature for a Constitutional scholar hack89 Jan 2015 #137

Please quit while you're behind. You've obviously lost this debate. Emoticons can't save you. n/t benz380 Jan 2015 #172

Like several of the rights, adulthood. NutmegYankee Jan 2015 #68

point to the specific clause of the second am.. tradewinds Jan 2015 #82

Snark. I'll tell you what - Answer why Children can't vote NutmegYankee Jan 2015 #83

The age of voting is clearly outlined in the constitution. tradewinds Jan 2015 #86

It's in an Amendment, just like the right to bear arms. NutmegYankee Jan 2015 #87

Show me the 2nd am. age restrictions. tradewinds Jan 2015 #89

LOL. Do you really think you're getting anywhere with this? NutmegYankee Jan 2015 #90

Seems to have riled you. tradewinds Jan 2015 #92

Humored me perhaps. NutmegYankee Jan 2015 #94

How dare you acuse ME of being a "right winger" . tradewinds Jan 2015 #96

A little too close to home? NutmegYankee Jan 2015 #98

Advocating??? tradewinds Jan 2015 #100

No. NutmegYankee Jan 2015 #102

.. tradewinds Jan 2015 #105

Yawn. NutmegYankee Jan 2015 #107

Maybe you should take the class. tradewinds Jan 2015 #108

How about some creativity in your insults? NutmegYankee Jan 2015 #109

There may be a reason you see that one alot. tradewinds Jan 2015 #110

I asked for originality, and you just give me retreads. NutmegYankee Jan 2015 #111

Seems more than you can handle. tradewinds Jan 2015 #112

You're going to give up now? NutmegYankee Jan 2015 #114

Give up?? tradewinds Jan 2015 #115

Elvis has left the building...with a pizza. beevul Jan 2015 #156

Truth hurt? eom. GGJohn Jan 2015 #126

Yeah, as if the "militia" portion of the 2nd is still operative, anymore. Paladin Jan 2015 #47

The militia is still in effect. The NG is the organized militia. Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2015 #57

So youi have no problem with restricting guns to members of the NG?? tradewinds Jan 2015 #62

The 2nd doesn't restrict ownership to a militia. It's a "right of the people" just like the 4th. NutmegYankee Jan 2015 #66

You didn't read past the post title, did you? Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2015 #67

Go read Heller. hack89 Jan 2015 #69

Not familiar with the name Johnathon Swift, are you? Scootaloo Jan 2015 #104

So clever. aikoaiko Jan 2015 #3

Not this stupid nonsense again Lurks Often Jan 2015 #4

Cite the portion of the 2nd Am that restricts gun ownership by age. tradewinds Jan 2015 #8

"militia" Recursion Jan 2015 #15

Nope. Fail. tradewinds Jan 2015 #18

Yep. Recursion Jan 2015 #20

Don't you wish!!! tradewinds Jan 2015 #25

Because "militias" have always, and I mean ALWAYS, had age limits Recursion Jan 2015 #27

Cite the portion of the 2nd Am that supports your claim. tradewinds Jan 2015 #34

For the last time: THE WORD "MILITIA" Recursion Jan 2015 #36

And for the last time, I reject your argument. tradewinds Jan 2015 #38

There's nothing to "reject". You asked where it comes from, I answered. Recursion Jan 2015 #39

You response carriies no wieght of law. tradewinds Jan 2015 #42

Yet age limits on gun owership are the law hack89 Jan 2015 #71

"Militia"? earthside Jan 2015 #56

No. Have you actually read Miller, Heller, and McDonald? Recursion Jan 2015 #123

Hardly Scootaloo Jan 2015 #106

There's no requirement that a "militia" only have over-18 adults. jeff47 Jan 2015 #28

True, but Congress gets to define the militia, and has put age limits there Recursion Jan 2015 #33

Like every other Amendment the Federal & State government Lurks Often Jan 2015 #41

So, further restrictions are OK, too. tradewinds Jan 2015 #45

The gun control extremists haven't had much luck with that Lurks Often Jan 2015 #50

Even Scalia says the 2A allows strict regulations hack89 Jan 2015 #51

You can't be this ignorant of the role the judiciary plays in interpreting the Constitution. hack89 Jan 2015 #70

Are you familiar with the concept of case law? hack89 Jan 2015 #118

Funny, to me they look quite a bit less idiotic SomethingFishy Jan 2015 #119

Those were two horrible, tragic incidents, but also extremely rare. Lurks Often Jan 2015 #121

Dark comedy. They nailed it. RiverLover Jan 2015 #5

Why wasn't that child trained in the proper use of firearms? There are already laws on the books world wide wally Jan 2015 #9

Training on weapons should be mandatory starting at age two, which would prevent such tragedies. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #13

One thing I have heard on this forum from gun folks that is true, sadly, is their point randys1 Jan 2015 #58

Forget about your keys...frustrating, forget about your gun....dead. No weapon is harmless. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #11

* L0oniX Jan 2015 #19

Biting satire. riqster Jan 2015 #30

+10000! Katashi_itto Jan 2015 #49

Children are always in a special category when it comes to legal rights. Yo_Mama Jan 2015 #35

Personally I think at age 2, kids should get rocket launchers. But not marry or vote. Katashi_itto Jan 2015 #75

2 year old kids can have a rocket launcher, GGJohn Jan 2015 #78

(Speaks Slowly) A fiberglass tube with a rocket inside. See, thats what makes it a rocket launcher. Katashi_itto Jan 2015 #133

(Speaks even slower). GGJohn Jan 2015 #134

Lol awww trying to make a funny Katashi_itto Jan 2015 #135

Well, that wasn't my intention, GGJohn Jan 2015 #136

"trying" is the term you missed Katashi_itto Jan 2015 #138

I didn't miss it, GGJohn Jan 2015 #139

Same here I don't give much credence Katashi_itto Jan 2015 #141

Heh... onehandle Jan 2015 #43

Seems the mere smell of gun oil brings them out. tradewinds Jan 2015 #48

Doffuses? GGJohn Jan 2015 #52

Oh,was that your thread?? tradewinds Jan 2015 #73

As I said, GGJohn Jan 2015 #76

Isn't that he purpose of flame bait? nt hack89 Jan 2015 #54

Yep , tragic gun deaths bring out the frolicking anti gun folk aikoaiko Jan 2015 #113

this actually makes a good point.... Takket Jan 2015 #61

Excellent point. eom GGJohn Jan 2015 #63

I agree but no way the NRA would let that happen! nt Logical Jan 2015 #77

At last gladium et scutum Jan 2015 #120

It's not that difficult to take someone's gun out of their holster. randome Jan 2015 #153

It's a lot harder than taking it out of a purse someone isn't even paying attention to. Takket Jan 2015 #154

This thread is fun sarisataka Jan 2015 #81

k&r PowerToThePeople Jan 2015 #130

This thread deserves an award. It's hilarious. Lint Head Jan 2015 #131

Didn't someone post a video where they wanted kids to take stolen firearm to school? ileus Jan 2015 #140

Second Amendment Rights people are trying to make Liam Neeson pay Stellar Jan 2015 #171

People Control, Not Gun Control Sancho Jan 2015 #173

You can have my gun when you pry it from the fingers of my cold, dead child. nt mw Jan 2015 #178