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fadedrose

(10,044 posts)
24. Everything you say is true
Thu Jan 15, 2015, 10:00 AM
Jan 2015

except I do blame the US for its Iraq disaster and the 200,000 deaths and climbing. Small wonder they hate and mistrust us.

But it remains, what do we do to get out of it? When the President attempts to leave he is criticized and when he agrees to stay, same result.

If there is an answer, what is it? Blaming me doesn't help. Nobody ever asked for my approval for the Iraq incursion. Everyone in DU was against it and the music for it when CNN showed coverage of the US entering Iraq. Cities all over the world held demonstrations against it, but our government paid no heed.

Think about the "solidarity" march in Paris. Who will they fight together? The enemy (so-called) is all over the place. We don't have enough men, and the countries involved don't have the expertise to have an army to fight their enemies. Saddam's army is what got booted out of Iraq and is causing so much trouble now and they were cruel when they lived in Iraq.

We have our share of veterans killed or suffering from loss of limbs and PT'S. Good people, as innocent as those Iraqis killed. For their sake I am patriotic, but where our government is concerned, not so much...they do what they are told to do.....thus, the spending becomes lopsided.

Howard Dean was the only politician who was honest and brave enough to protest the war, and his popularity escalated. His picture was my avatar until he recently announced his support for Clinton, which is the same as backing the PNAC. I was so disappointed that he supports the very people responsible for his loss in Iowa, which I guess was the DLC. My Senators Levin and Stabinow also voted against the war, and they now support Clinton.

One more time, what do we do now? We are on the same page as far as saying who was to blame for what's happening now, but we did not draw up the boundary lines for the countries involved.

I'm 76, and never seen us so messed up.





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We need it, for sure, rose, elleng Jan 2015 #1
Agree, it certainly would make everyone stand up and pay attention. Also, if the Bush crap had RKP5637 Jan 2015 #4
Exactly. elleng Jan 2015 #6
Yep, the huge profiteers in the MIC! As has been said many times, a racket. What always bothers me RKP5637 Jan 2015 #13
No one hates the draft more than military. tritsofme Jan 2015 #2
But the draft is a great idea from a social point of view: re Germany's Zivildienst DetlefK Jan 2015 #33
So - we are going to police the whole world? How, exactly, would that work? n/t djean111 Jan 2015 #3
This dumb draftee is against it but acknowledges there is merit to a citizens' army Brother Buzz Jan 2015 #5
And they made friends everywhere they went fadedrose Jan 2015 #16
The military currently turns away 80% madville Jan 2015 #7
Sounds like things that would tend to disqualify the poor more than the rich shawn703 Jan 2015 #14
++++++++++++++++ fadedrose Jan 2015 #18
obesity is huge oldandhappy Jan 2015 #19
LOL...I was thinking the same thing. NaturalHigh Jan 2015 #27
80% do you have a link for that? Cosmic Kitten Jan 2015 #28
This report says 75%. former9thward Jan 2015 #30
And I'll say the same thing I do every time he does: Ykcutnek Jan 2015 #8
I like that one. NaturalHigh Jan 2015 #26
Anybody in favor of a draft gets to go first Lurks Often Jan 2015 #9
They should walk point with the Infantry... pinboy3niner Jan 2015 #10
Were you really scared when delrem Jan 2015 #11
Actually, I was fadedrose Jan 2015 #15
Do you really think that you're "suffering" for the PNAC program? delrem Jan 2015 #20
Not suffering fadedrose Jan 2015 #21
I don't know how to "solve these problems", delrem Jan 2015 #22
Everything you say is true fadedrose Jan 2015 #24
I'm dismayed by your statement delrem Jan 2015 #34
We can't afford a fair draft hack89 Jan 2015 #12
I am glad he brings this up yearly. oldandhappy Jan 2015 #17
war is a failed system olddots Jan 2015 #23
Politicians hide themselves away Johonny Jan 2015 #25
Every citizen should do two years of military or civil service tabasco Jan 2015 #29
If a draft ever passes Democrats will get the blame because of Rangel. former9thward Jan 2015 #31
If it passes Canada will have a massive upsurge in tourism. Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2015 #32
I look forward to the new anti-war movement, so bring back the draft. Maybe we'd get some ND-Dem Jan 2015 #35
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