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In reply to the discussion: Against my better judgment ... [View all]HERVEPA
(6,107 posts)91. Illogical captain
Religion is a choice. The other things you cite are not. Pretty simple. Logic 101
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Religious ridicule is NOT socially acceptable, except, perhaps, on Charlie Hebdo
whathehell
Jan 2015
#271
I'm sure Christians would all be comfortable with money that said "There is no God"..
Fumesucker
Jan 2015
#287
Nothing could be furrther from the truth, ridicule religion, ridicule governments, ridicule
NoJusticeNoPeace
Jan 2015
#301
But we here ridicule people's choice of political philosophy everyday.
DeadLetterOffice
Jan 2015
#221
Before we credit the faithful with championing civil rights, which undoubtedly happened...
Orsino
Jan 2015
#156
The only difference bewteen a cult and a religion is the size of the congregation.
cleanhippie
Jan 2015
#144
Seems as if those same arguments about theology could also apply to ideology, no?
Major Nikon
Jan 2015
#4
Funny, cause that sounded a lot like what American foreign policy and cultural imperialism seeks
BainsBane
Jan 2015
#76
The catholic church involves itself a great deal in all those categories politically.
AtheistCrusader
Jan 2015
#37
And the GOP is using Creationism from our Krazy Kristians to deny Climate Change
BrotherIvan
Jan 2015
#195
It occurs when there is an inability to express one's liberal value without attacking others.
freshwest
Jan 2015
#9
They aren't harming liberalism by pushing back against religions which bring great harm
BrotherIvan
Jan 2015
#298
In that case, you and I are in agreement. But much of what is posted here goes ...
dawg
Jan 2015
#299
Yes, it is. But there is no reason to tell people that religion shall not be criticized.
BrotherIvan
Jan 2015
#304
Because those who harbor such beliefs are not content to live and let live.
geek tragedy
Jan 2015
#28
If only it were that simple to remove those religions' influence from our lives.
AtheistCrusader
Jan 2015
#40
When that faith causes people to restrict the freedoms and dignity of others
geek tragedy
Jan 2015
#26
At first I was gonna say something about those whose faith allows them to commit evil
DFW
Jan 2015
#29
I disagree, people carry out religious beliefs... religion in and of itself doesn't oppress without
uponit7771
Jan 2015
#250
"then who is responsible for it? ".. people? People can carry out WRONG understanding of beliefs too
uponit7771
Jan 2015
#253
yeap, humans don't like their worlds challenged.... easier to just settled in a belief and not have
uponit7771
Jan 2015
#259
Excellent post. To be fair, Charlie Hebdo's journalists wrote editorial content as well as cartoons
Pooka Fey
Jan 2015
#150
IBTL, of course ridiculing religion can help lead people to question faith.
AtheistCrusader
Jan 2015
#44
I would love nothing more than to see religion in the dustbin of history
AtheistCrusader
Jan 2015
#51
If atheists feel they need to see others being ridiculed in order to feel better ...
dawg
Jan 2015
#235
So, when we here at the DU make fun of the GOP and Fox News we're doing so to feel better?
Moonwalk
Jan 2015
#241
This is 2015, the internet has been around since 1995, for 20 fucking years!!!
Major Hogwash
Jan 2015
#371
It has been my experience that even so much as expressing disbelief will cause offense.
LiberalAndProud
Jan 2015
#57
Yes, SKP, regale us with further tales of how the Charlie Hebdo cartoonists were bigots and
AtheistCrusader
Jan 2015
#66
Well said. Ultimately, ridiculing for something someone believes is a waste of time,
world wide wally
Jan 2015
#63
usually when i criticize religion it has more to do with people who use it to justify
JI7
Jan 2015
#71
Religion is a CHOICE that one makes, one is not born religious it requires
ChosenUnWisely
Jan 2015
#80
Many on here have defended the usefulness of our collective 1st Amendment rights
Pooka Fey
Jan 2015
#224
Fine. I might be offended right with the person but should that offense lead to murderous response
TheKentuckian
Jan 2015
#89
Those who claim faith which cannot withstand ridicule are truly faithless. eom
MohRokTah
Jan 2015
#100
We should tolerate and welcome diversity of beliefs, but not the harm done in the name of a beleif
Martin Eden
Jan 2015
#103
When the poor persecuted christian church keeps it's nose out of American politics,
B Calm
Jan 2015
#112
Scary. . They also want to outlaw a woman's choice to have a safe abortion. Gays
B Calm
Jan 2015
#120
Multiple pics in different locations have been posted. I s'pose they could all be shopped....
Scuba
Jan 2015
#281
If we can't mock religion, next we'll be forbidden to mock politics, and away we go...
Pooka Fey
Jan 2015
#125
Mocking religion itself is probably a bad idea. Mocking people and organizations
MineralMan
Jan 2015
#142
I think the reason for the harsh satire of a religion is to prompt adherents to improve AND to
stevenleser
Jan 2015
#165
Faith must not be very strong if your feelings are hurt when someone makes fun of it.
alarimer
Jan 2015
#168
Religion is an idea, like any other idea. I can mock it as I choose, and so should everyone else.
chrisa
Jan 2015
#171
There have been studies showing that the number one factor in the drop in religious belief
Arugula Latte
Jan 2015
#183
Sturgeon's law applies as much to Charie Hebdo as it does to anything else..
Fumesucker
Jan 2015
#223
True. OTOH, ninety percent of crud doesn't bring out the crazies like mocking Islam does.
randome
Jan 2015
#243
Criticism and mockery are often -not always- different things but I see your point.
randome
Jan 2015
#310
Unfortunately, appealing to facts isn't the most effective means of influencing people.
Pacifist Patriot
Jan 2015
#232
Yes. I don't understand why so many progressive seem to pretend they're benign, or at the very least
Arugula Latte
Jan 2015
#297
Ridicule only has an effect on a very small number of youth who are open to it.
randome
Jan 2015
#175
Shit, on DU last week a people were "offended by" the new McDonald's commercial
GusBob
Jan 2015
#184
Well, I am an atheist and have no problems with you being here. I think it is a bunch of made up....
Logical
Jan 2015
#273
I know you are right Nance but for some reason I just can't get past magic underwear. I'll try
OregonBlue
Jan 2015
#206
Lumping atheism in with that other imaginary shit is offensive and narrow minded. nt
LexVegas
Jan 2015
#220
I know both former Christians and former Jews who cite ridicule of their faith as a factor.
Gormy Cuss
Jan 2015
#227
At least here in the South, mocking religion is a great way to make more Republicans.
dawg
Jan 2015
#231
You are one of the reasons why I became a regular visitor to DU in the first place
War Horse
Jan 2015
#244
Who besides the Mockingbird could have guessed that mockery was such a powerful tool?
Rex
Jan 2015
#258
Rather see it out in the open here than suspect it's seething underneath the posts.
bluesbassman
Jan 2015
#257
Funny story about that "Mockery" thing. A recent protest by the Westboro Baptist church was
bobalew
Jan 2015
#280
Thank you. The level of cognitive dissonance shown by some is really disheartening
onenote
Jan 2015
#284
If you'd keep your beliefs in your own home and church, nobody would say anything about you.
blkmusclmachine
Jan 2015
#309
The idea that religious beliefs are magically privileged and exempt from ridicule and criticism...
oberliner
Jan 2015
#326
I agree, but I'd get in line to support anyone ridiculing hate-based speech and behavior
bhikkhu
Jan 2015
#344
Yeah, I don't either. And that may be where the ridicule starts. Such a silly posture
jtuck004
Jan 2015
#379
This HAS to be a troll-job. Hard to believe a long-time DU'er would be this illogical or obtuse.
AzDar
Jan 2015
#370
Yes, and it is obvious by now that Skinner has made a huge mistake with this jury experiment.
Major Hogwash
Jan 2015
#403