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RiverLover

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13. Did everything change from 2012 to 2013? Where are these figures of yours coming from?

Fri Jan 16, 2015, 09:42 AM

Jan 2015

Here's what was going in 2012~

While President Obama's State of the Union reiterated the tired "free trade" = exports = jobs refrain, the newly-released government trade data for 2012 shows that job-eroding U.S. trade deficits have ballooned with "free trade" agreement (FTA) partners while declining with the rest of the world. Why? In part, because export growth has actually been slower under FTAs. Why then did Obama commit on Tuesday night to expand this deficit-boosting FTA model across both the Pacific and the Atlantic in the name of jobs? Maybe he hasn't seen the data. Here it is (click here for the PDF version):

U.S. Trade Deficits Grow More Than 440% with FTA Countries, but Decline 7% with Non-FTA Countries

http://citizen.typepad.com/eyesontrade/2013/02/job-killing-trade-deficits-soar-under-free-trade-agreements.html

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Don't Buy the Hype: 20 Years of Data Reveals 'Free Trade' Fallacies [View all] RiverLover Jan 2015 OP

Kick.... daleanime Jan 2015 #1

20 years ago we were warned nationalize the fed Jan 2015 #2

Thanks. Good videos. RiverLover Jan 2015 #3

It's infuriating how so many elected politicians can just say whatever they want and... stillwaiting Jan 2015 #4

No question about it. +1! Enthusiast Jan 2015 #6

That's what happens when the "reality-based community" deutsey Jan 2015 #10

Our trade deficit is much larger with non-'free trade' countries than it is with the 20 countries pampango Jan 2015 #5

You cite Germany. Enthusiast Jan 2015 #8

Agreed. The key to a healthy middle class lies in government policy towards their workers. pampango Jan 2015 #16

Did everything change from 2012 to 2013? Where are these figures of yours coming from? RiverLover Jan 2015 #13

The figures (which seem inaccurate after checking the source directly) show the same thing. pampango Jan 2015 #17

My source was the US govt report. Our deficits with Canada & Mexico have gone up. RiverLover Jan 2015 #19

No, your source was for #13 was citizen.org which used statistics allegedly from a government pampango Jan 2015 #20

du rec. xchrom Jan 2015 #7

K&R! This post should have hundreds of recommendations! Enthusiast Jan 2015 #9

Small NY businesses agree.. (survey) annabanana Jan 2015 #11

Another -really- good article in Forbes yesterday~ RiverLover Jan 2015 #12

Thanks...this Forbes article is a good read..... KoKo Jan 2015 #14

Thank you. woo me with science Jan 2015 #24

K&R. The promoters pretended NAFTA and the others would be good for us back then too. Overseas Jan 2015 #15

K/R marmar Jan 2015 #18

But the economy didn't crash the second NAFTA was signed!! jeff47 Jan 2015 #21

The economy did great until Bush cut taxes Recursion Jan 2015 #25

Again, you are claiming connections that just did not happen. jeff47 Jan 2015 #32

K&R woo me with science Jan 2015 #22

kick woo me with science Jan 2015 #23

What FDR said. Octafish Jan 2015 #26

And FDR's trade deal actually helped American workers while the free trade deals today help corps RiverLover Jan 2015 #27

Me, too. Obama calls critics of TPP secrecy 'Conspiracy Theorists' Octafish Jan 2015 #31

kick woo me with science Jan 2015 #28

We are the prey of One Percent sociopaths woo me with science Jan 2015 #29

Yep, this is why the Koch Bros are celebrating having a Dem president with a GOP congress once more. RiverLover Jan 2015 #30

A slickly planned segue into 2016 for the oligarchy pretending to be a democracy. woo me with science Jan 2015 #33

K & R AzDar Jan 2015 #34