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15. K&R. The promoters pretended NAFTA and the others would be good for us back then too.
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 10:36 AM
Jan 2015

Those who opposed those agreements were mocked as being old fashioned, not understanding the benefits of Free Trade.

Those who benefited were the multinational corporations who were free to move production to wherever they could get the cheapest labor, regardless of the devastating impact here in the USA.

Now that we have the results of NAFTA CAFTA and other such agreements are quite clear, the TPP negotiations and content has been kept as secret as possible.

If such agreements had been successful for our country, the secrecy would not be necessary.

Because the TPP goes even farther and gives multinational corporations even more power over local governments and national legislation.

http://www.citizen.org/TPP

Although it is called a "free trade" agreement, the TPP is not mainly about trade. Of TPP's 29 draft chapters, only five deal with traditional trade issues. One chapter would provide incentives to offshore jobs to low-wage countries. Many would impose limits on government policies that we rely on in our daily lives for safe food, a clean environment, and more. Our domestic federal, state and local policies would be required to comply with TPP rules.

The TPP would even elevate individual foreign firms to equal status with sovereign nations, empowering them to privately enforce new rights and privileges, provided by the pact, by dragging governments to foreign tribunals to challenge public interest policies that they claim frustrate their expectations. The tribunals would be authorized to order taxpayer compensation to the foreign corporations for the "expected future profits" they surmise would be inhibited by the challenged policies.

We only know about the TPP's threats thanks to leaks – the public is not allowed to see the draft TPP text. Even members of Congress, after being denied the text for years, are now only provided limited access. Meanwhile, more than 500 official corporate "trade advisors" have special access. The TPP has been under negotiation for six years, and the Obama administration wants to sign the deal this year. Opposition to the TPP is growing at home and in many of the other countries involved.

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Kick.... daleanime Jan 2015 #1
20 years ago we were warned nationalize the fed Jan 2015 #2
Thanks. Good videos. RiverLover Jan 2015 #3
It's infuriating how so many elected politicians can just say whatever they want and... stillwaiting Jan 2015 #4
No question about it. +1! Enthusiast Jan 2015 #6
That's what happens when the "reality-based community" deutsey Jan 2015 #10
Our trade deficit is much larger with non-'free trade' countries than it is with the 20 countries pampango Jan 2015 #5
You cite Germany. Enthusiast Jan 2015 #8
Agreed. The key to a healthy middle class lies in government policy towards their workers. pampango Jan 2015 #16
Did everything change from 2012 to 2013? Where are these figures of yours coming from? RiverLover Jan 2015 #13
The figures (which seem inaccurate after checking the source directly) show the same thing. pampango Jan 2015 #17
My source was the US govt report. Our deficits with Canada & Mexico have gone up. RiverLover Jan 2015 #19
No, your source was for #13 was citizen.org which used statistics allegedly from a government pampango Jan 2015 #20
du rec. xchrom Jan 2015 #7
K&R! This post should have hundreds of recommendations! Enthusiast Jan 2015 #9
Small NY businesses agree.. (survey) annabanana Jan 2015 #11
Another -really- good article in Forbes yesterday~ RiverLover Jan 2015 #12
Thanks...this Forbes article is a good read..... KoKo Jan 2015 #14
Thank you. woo me with science Jan 2015 #24
K&R. The promoters pretended NAFTA and the others would be good for us back then too. Overseas Jan 2015 #15
K/R marmar Jan 2015 #18
But the economy didn't crash the second NAFTA was signed!! jeff47 Jan 2015 #21
The economy did great until Bush cut taxes Recursion Jan 2015 #25
Again, you are claiming connections that just did not happen. jeff47 Jan 2015 #32
K&R woo me with science Jan 2015 #22
kick woo me with science Jan 2015 #23
What FDR said. Octafish Jan 2015 #26
And FDR's trade deal actually helped American workers while the free trade deals today help corps RiverLover Jan 2015 #27
Me, too. Obama calls critics of TPP secrecy 'Conspiracy Theorists' Octafish Jan 2015 #31
kick woo me with science Jan 2015 #28
We are the prey of One Percent sociopaths woo me with science Jan 2015 #29
Yep, this is why the Koch Bros are celebrating having a Dem president with a GOP congress once more. RiverLover Jan 2015 #30
A slickly planned segue into 2016 for the oligarchy pretending to be a democracy. woo me with science Jan 2015 #33
K & R AzDar Jan 2015 #34
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