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17. The figures (which seem inaccurate after checking the source directly) show the same thing.

Fri Jan 16, 2015, 11:19 AM

Jan 2015

At the link you provided: the US trade deficit with "FTA" countries in 2013 was $180 billion while the trade deficit with non-"FTA" countries was $687 billion. It also shows that our trade balance has improved with 13 of the countries after "FTA's" were signed and gotten worse in 7 countries.

(The figure for some countries at the link are incorrect. Our trade deficit with Mexico in 2013 was $54 billion not $96 billion. Our trade deficit with Canada is $31 billion not $81 billion. I did not check the other countries' numbers.

I got my figures by adding the import and export figures for the 20 "FTA" countries and subtracting the totals from our total international trade numbers.

Germany, Sweden and many other countries with high wages and strong unions do well in international trade. And those countries have more "FTA's" than the US will ever have. Is there some reason that the US cannot do as well as they do?

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Our trade deficit is much larger with non-'free trade' countries than it is with the 20 countries pampango Jan 2015 #5

You cite Germany. Enthusiast Jan 2015 #8

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Did everything change from 2012 to 2013? Where are these figures of yours coming from? RiverLover Jan 2015 #13

The figures (which seem inaccurate after checking the source directly) show the same thing. pampango Jan 2015 #17

My source was the US govt report. Our deficits with Canada & Mexico have gone up. RiverLover Jan 2015 #19

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