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41. Several state constitutions prohibit atheists from holding office

Reply to cbayer (Reply #25)

Fri Jan 16, 2015, 03:27 PM

Jan 2015

Good thing we have those constitutions so that we know what is right and wrong.

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Christians are the world's gravest danger to peace, not Muslims. Christians can kill the planet. [View all] Fred Sanders Jan 2015 OP

All worship at the church of the almighty dollar (or Yen, Euro, etc, etc.) n2doc Jan 2015 #1

I fear the rule of the Holy High Church of Mass Media, America's true masters, they are untouchable. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #2

The media are just doing what their masters tell them to do n2doc Jan 2015 #3

And now the obvious manipulation to fear an entire other religion...Fearbola was just the dress Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #5

ISIS & Ebola were reported hand-to-hand JonLP24 Jan 2015 #131

And it was sooo bloody obvious..corporate media was in it's full glory in 2014! mountain grammy Jan 2015 #101

Actually the almighty dollar is the biggest threat known to man. Initech Jan 2015 #46

K&R! Well Said!!! n/t RKP5637 Jan 2015 #105

aint it the truth. and behind that, the church of power, a satanic church. ND-Dem Jan 2015 #76

Sorry edhopper Jan 2015 #4

Nice tries is what free speech is all about. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #7

True edhopper Jan 2015 #9

President Cruz will never happen, of course not. That would be too scary to think about. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #13

And we can speculate about the Taliban edhopper Jan 2015 #16

premise ND-Dem Jan 2015 #78

both are acceptable, edhopper Jan 2015 #108

Pakistan is officially an Islamic Republic. nt. Warren Stupidity Jan 2015 #72

Thanks edhopper Jan 2015 #73

How can it be argued that Pakistan is not a Muslim nation? LiberalAndProud Jan 2015 #137

Earth-shatteringly stupid theory. Codeine Jan 2015 #6

CNN, Fox, most of the mass media and all of the Republicans in Congress would disagree. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #8

People can say any stupid thing they want. Codeine Jan 2015 #10

CNN is Catholic? melman Jan 2015 #24

CNN is a tough nut to prove, but look at the religion of their TV lineup. Did I say something bad? Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #26

UNREC brooklynite Jan 2015 #11

Yeah, but what can you do about it? Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2015 #12

Time to ban Christians. ileus Jan 2015 #14

From politics if their policies are ideologically driven, of course. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #15

Really? Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2015 #38

A man who was able to seperate spirituality from political ideology and real world policy. None Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #39

So how you you propose sifting the beliefs of religious people Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2015 #40

This message was self-deleted by its author MFrohike Jan 2015 #128

You may be the first person on DU to advocate a religious litmus test for office... LanternWaste Jan 2015 #60

Not all, mock their extremist ideas and connect those ideas to their political desires. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #21

And what precisely is a "yearning for religion" Codeine Jan 2015 #17

'Sorry, but religion threads are not allowed in GD. Please do consider reposting in religion. hlthe2b Jan 2015 #18

Is the thread unlocked? Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #20

Wow, just freaking wow! hrmjustin Jan 2015 #19

Complete logic fail. Even most believers don't distort things to this degree to make some cbayer Jan 2015 #22

As no one of any consequence or in a position of power is calling for Christian religious beliefs Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #23

There are lots of people calling for that and we have a constitution that prohibits it. cbayer Jan 2015 #25

My intent is to mock extremist Christians ideology, it is permitted, within the bounds of not being vulgar. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #27

I think pretty much everyone here is on board with their objection to extremist cbayer Jan 2015 #28

I am genuinely worried about creeping Maria law, Sharia law xenophobic fake fears are the cover. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #32

I think it's best if I stop kicking this thread. cbayer Jan 2015 #35

Consider for a moment who your audience is. cherokeeprogressive Jan 2015 #36

Several state constitutions prohibit atheists from holding office Fumesucker Jan 2015 #41

A federal ruling made all of those null and void years ago. cbayer Jan 2015 #43

And yet the number of atheists in office in those states didn't appreciably change after that ruling Fumesucker Jan 2015 #64

No argument that it remains very difficult for atheists to get elected, but cbayer Jan 2015 #65

Thank you and f**ing jeez! smirkymonkey Jan 2015 #74

Russia is very Christian, probably moreso than the US MillennialDem Jan 2015 #104

Actually, no. cbayer Jan 2015 #107

Well given the amount of pull the orthodox church has now is what I meant, I didn't mean the MillennialDem Jan 2015 #109

I would love to talk to you more, but I don't want to kick this thread. cbayer Jan 2015 #111

So when are we wiping out all the non believers? n/t dilby Jan 2015 #29

Well, we're thirteen years into our current Crusades n/t whatchamacallit Jan 2015 #112

We need to look back in history to solve problems....lions* would be my first choice ChosenUnWisely Jan 2015 #30

"Yearning for religion" nations. dawg Jan 2015 #31

Not believing in a God is a belief system? cleanhippie Jan 2015 #44

Believing that the existence of God is an impossibility is ... dawg Jan 2015 #48

I like agnostics, they use reason as their religion. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #53

Oh dear. That's ridiculous. smirkymonkey Jan 2015 #75

Questioning whether God exists is an exercise in the freaking obvious. It requires no reasoning. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #81

Yeah, exactly. smirkymonkey Jan 2015 #86

Even Dawkins doesn't say that Fumesucker Jan 2015 #66

Dawkins can be abrasive at times, but he's a more thoughtful and reasonable man ... dawg Jan 2015 #67

Dawkins also grew up in a culture rather less marinaded in fundamentalist religion than our own Fumesucker Jan 2015 #68

The fundies do more to drive people away from religion than Mr. Dawkins ever could. dawg Jan 2015 #69

You... just sit around and think this stuff up. cherokeeprogressive Jan 2015 #33

It's a curse. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #34

That makes sense. Now I get it. cherokeeprogressive Jan 2015 #37

Hey, when did the US become a "Christian nation"? Nye Bevan Jan 2015 #42

To be fair, the OP is routinely and roundly ridiculed on DU as well. nt Codeine Jan 2015 #47

In your dreams. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #50

In this thread. Bluenorthwest Jan 2015 #54

You can start your own OP on how extremist Christian religion has nothing to do with politics in America. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #55

Why would I do that, I don't think that Christian fuckery has nothing to do with US politics Bluenorthwest Jan 2015 #59

Imagine no religion malaise Jan 2015 #45

"Imagine no religion" Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2015 #49

it was people ranting on the internet, his life was never at risk JI7 Jan 2015 #80

Were they Christians or Muslims ranting on the Internet, which never happens by the way? Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #84

I do not think Christians are like that. Why are you smearing an entire religion using one, single Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #83

It wasn't Christians losing their minds over the lyric change. DU was quite the display of Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2015 #88

I wasn't Christians? Then it is serious stuff if it was not Christians. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #90

It was tragically comical in its incoherent lack of self awareness. Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2015 #93

"Incoherent lack of self awareness". Got that right. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #95

To this day I still see no point to the rending of garments that resulted. Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2015 #97

Except that change was anything but innocuous. cleanhippie Jan 2015 #85

It's a stupid pop song. Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2015 #87

If you say so. cleanhippie Jan 2015 #89

Which just validates my original post in the sub-thread. Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2015 #92

Sounds like obtuse tone-deafness and wilfull ignorance to me. cleanhippie Jan 2015 #94

What harm was inflicted except to over-developed senses of sentiment? Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2015 #96

Who said anything about harm? cleanhippie Jan 2015 #98

I said the lyric change was innocuous. You repeatedly asserted that is was not innocuous Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2015 #99

Oh dear. cleanhippie Jan 2015 #100

Okay, fine. It still doesn't explain the zealotry erupting over just a song by some guy especially Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2015 #102

Zealotry? Thats funny. cleanhippie Jan 2015 #106

Yeah. That definition pretty much validates my point. Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2015 #110

I'm gonna go with willful tone-deafness. cleanhippie Jan 2015 #113

You provided the defintion, I agreed with it. Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2015 #114

You agreed with an illogical definition you gave it yourself. cleanhippie Jan 2015 #115

I never said Green was harmed. I said he was the object of vitriol, which he was. Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2015 #116

You ask "who was harmed?" then pretend that "justified the vitriol that was unleashed against him" cleanhippie Jan 2015 #117

I'm the object of your vitriol. I hardly feel harmed. Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2015 #120

And now I'm vitriolic? cleanhippie Jan 2015 #122

When you call me tone-deaf and then say that is probably too kind then yes, Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2015 #123

How we got from debating the proper use of "innocuous" to an incoherent tale of your "conversion" cleanhippie Jan 2015 #124

You started the debate on the definition. I remain content with my use of the word and Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2015 #125

Perhaps in your haste to respond you've overlooked all my explanations? cleanhippie Jan 2015 #126

Green's rewrite hardly rises to the level of vitriol directed at Lennon. Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2015 #127

That must be some view from up there. cleanhippie Jan 2015 #129

"To those that "lost their collective minds" it was more than just one little line" Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2015 #130

I've reached the maximum number of ways I can re-word my point. cleanhippie Jan 2015 #132

All I have seen is statements telling me people are upset, that the song has deep value to them. Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2015 #133

Woosh! cleanhippie Jan 2015 #134

Again, where have you explained it? Your comments addressing the song (rather than my vocabulary) -- Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2015 #135

Are you still talking to me? cleanhippie Jan 2015 #136

"I've moved on" Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2015 #138

Still here? cleanhippie Jan 2015 #139

"Still here?" Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2015 #140

Perhaps you should try it instead of watching it. cleanhippie Jan 2015 #141

"Perhaps you should try it instead of watching it." Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2015 #142

See, you haven't moved on, but I have. cleanhippie Jan 2015 #144

Link for people who don't know what this subthread is about: treestar Jan 2015 #145

Gotta vote with clean hippie on this one. Now to explain how they got from the OP topic to a Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #148

"All other religions combined: approx $200 million annum, mainly China" EX500rider Jan 2015 #51

Thank you, corrected. They aethiests are catching up with their weaponry and spending. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #52

Hmmm 2naSalit Jan 2015 #56

Amen. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #57

My favorite part 2naSalit Jan 2015 #61

Correction noted, did seem entirely out of context. Thanks for the poetry. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #62

Why 2naSalit Jan 2015 #63

How about you try this new title: Nations with a Christian majority cpwm17 Jan 2015 #58

When Christians start wiping out entire towns for not bowing to them backwoodsbob Jan 2015 #70

It was not an entire town but it was 77 children. Hans Brevik. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #71

Who was an absolute nut case. His views smirkymonkey Jan 2015 #79

Hans was a Christian as the terrorists of Paris were Muslims. Agreed. I like principals. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #82

So I guess its time to invade Mexico and South America. Lobo27 Jan 2015 #77

They hang gays from cranes in Iran. m-lekktor Jan 2015 #91

Due to US intervention. Our coup handed their extremist everything they had Exultant Democracy Jan 2015 #118

Obama withdrawing all Christian warriors from Muslim majority lands is not sitting well Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #121

Kill the planet is an overstatement, but I agree with the rest of your point. Christians have done MillennialDem Jan 2015 #103

Everything shitty in today's Islam is directly attributable to western imperialism. Exultant Democracy Jan 2015 #119

Oh ffs, you can't be serious. smirkymonkey Jan 2015 #147

Then you clearly have no knowledge or interest in the actual history of the religion and the region Exultant Democracy Jan 2015 #149

The first time I've seen a DUer argue that hughee99 Jan 2015 #143

+1 treestar Jan 2015 #146