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Behind the Aegis

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58. Very interesting.

Sat Jan 17, 2015, 04:08 AM

Jan 2015

The point of the supportive OP was hat many of us have been beaten down by religion, and despite that, s/he supports us. It is true not all religious people butt in, or are bigoted, but there are many who do and are quite bigoted. I can provide any number of examples just from the past year of various religions/religious people using their religion to oppress/harass/dehumanize/ and yes, even KILL GLBT people. The easiest is Fred Phelps' website. I won't link it here, but it is "G-D hates Fags" (with the "O" and .com). There are people here who seem to believe their beliefs trump or rights, both human and civil. I don't think the OP was saying "religious people are bigots by nature."

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This message was self-deleted by its author [View all] KMOD Jan 2015 OP

I stand with them and the women who are harmed. PeaceNikki Jan 2015 #1

You are absolutely right KMOD Jan 2015 #4

It does seem sometimes that us women cwydro Jan 2015 #32

Under the bus they go... jberryhill Jan 2015 #34

"Calming the concerns of conservatives is still a priority for the church."-Sister Simone Campbell Bluenorthwest Jan 2015 #77

Most Pagan faiths that I know of embrace all sexual identities. MohRokTah Jan 2015 #2

Thank you. marym625 Jan 2015 #3

I stand with you, too! Sissyk Jan 2015 #5

Yes, you do! Behind the Aegis Jan 2015 #55

. Sissyk Jan 2015 #79

I WILL ALWAYS FIGHT THE FIGHT Skittles Jan 2015 #6

Honestly, don't worry Prism Jan 2015 #7

+Yes! BrotherIvan Jan 2015 #25

I agree to an extent marym625 Jan 2015 #28

It's more a bitter humor Prism Jan 2015 #44

I get that marym625 Jan 2015 #81

ironic, especially the bit about cocktail parties ND-Dem Jan 2015 #37

Thank you, for your thoughts and perspective. KMOD Jan 2015 #50

I APPROVE OF THIS MESSAGE Skittles Jan 2015 #59

Good post. nt RedCappedBandit Jan 2015 #63

I understand your sentiments wavesofeuphoria Jan 2015 #68

Does standing with LGBT mean standing against God and the sacred in life? Wella Jan 2015 #8

Depends on the God, doesn't it? Prism Jan 2015 #9

That's the not what the OP is saying Wella Jan 2015 #10

Well, what are the principles? Prism Jan 2015 #11

Good answer. n/t marym625 Jan 2015 #29

Actually, it's not a good answer Wella Jan 2015 #97

It was a good answer marym625 Jan 2015 #109

"Sour" is not a principle. Wella Jan 2015 #96

If your principles include supporting a belief system The Green Manalishi Jan 2015 #90

"Filthy gutter religion" Wella Jan 2015 #98

Yeah The Green Manalishi Jan 2015 #105

The principle is simple.... Bohemianwriter Jan 2015 #106

I don't believe it redefines the Democratic party at all. KMOD Jan 2015 #12

Inconceivable jberryhill Jan 2015 #39

The way the attacks fly here, I didn't think that was possible. Wella Jan 2015 #99

Standing against god? sheshe2 Jan 2015 #15

apart from the ones doomed to eternity in the pits of hell? nt uriel1972 Jan 2015 #17

so... sheshe2 Jan 2015 #19

I direct you to the bible etc. and the scripture within. uriel1972 Jan 2015 #22

Your God. MannyGoldstein Jan 2015 #33

That's precisely my question, sheshe2 Wella Jan 2015 #100

Well I posted that I was raised in the church. sheshe2 Jan 2015 #103

Limbo is not biblically based. Wella Jan 2015 #104

I don't know what post you are reading marym625 Jan 2015 #31

... KMOD Jan 2015 #49

Thank you marym625 Jan 2015 #82

havent you figured that out yet? ND-Dem Jan 2015 #38

It's amazing that we know of the existence of LGBT people yet we shun them Fearless Jan 2015 #54

That's not what she is saying at all. dawg Jan 2015 #76

It would be a step in the eignt direction. ncjustice80 Jan 2015 #88

Your application of "sacred" is applied by others to priniciples sibelian Jan 2015 #115

All religions? flvegan Jan 2015 #13

Is that your only critque of my message? KMOD Jan 2015 #14

You alleged a factual statement. flvegan Jan 2015 #16

I agree that hurtful bigots aren't necessarily based in religion. KMOD Jan 2015 #20

Yeah, not about me. flvegan Jan 2015 #21

What is your point here? KMOD Jan 2015 #23

It's proven. flvegan Jan 2015 #24

OK, if you say so. KMOD Jan 2015 #26

Look at this couple being oppressed by religion jberryhill Jan 2015 #36

Yes, because religion never oppresses the LGBT Behind the Aegis Jan 2015 #45

The OP paints with a broad brush jberryhill Jan 2015 #47

Please point it out. Behind the Aegis Jan 2015 #48

I do? I don't mean to. KMOD Jan 2015 #51

So the various LGBT religious leaders are oppressing themselves? jberryhill Jan 2015 #35

see reply #8 KMOD Jan 2015 #41

So your contention is that because Obama is the President of the US, there is no racism in US Bluenorthwest Jan 2015 #80

Thanks. Nice to see. Behind the Aegis Jan 2015 #18

I stand against homophobia, misogyny, racism and hatred whatever mantle or guise it wears BrotherIvan Jan 2015 #27

... cwydro Jan 2015 #30

Amen jberryhill Jan 2015 #40

Here's Rick Warren calling gay people shitty things just before Obama picked him for the Inaugural Bluenorthwest Jan 2015 #64

+1 I well remember that time and those "supporters" ... wavesofeuphoria Jan 2015 #71

It is a very stark and telling contrast, that they demanded that we endure all insult and offense Bluenorthwest Jan 2015 #74

I stand with you! vlyons Jan 2015 #42

I'll be sure to inform my openly gay brother who is a rabbi TorchTheWitch Jan 2015 #43

Ask him if this is also true.... Behind the Aegis Jan 2015 #46

We were raised Catholic by two Catholic parents TorchTheWitch Jan 2015 #57

Very interesting. Behind the Aegis Jan 2015 #58

not by religion - by bigots within a religion or just plain bigots TorchTheWitch Jan 2015 #62

have I told you lately how awesome you are, Behind the Aegis? Skittles Jan 2015 #60

Nope. It was well past due! Behind the Aegis Jan 2015 #61

again, KMOD Jan 2015 #52

That's me. narnian60 Jan 2015 #56

Thank you for your kind words. Fearless Jan 2015 #53

I hear you, I stand with you. nt DLevine Jan 2015 #65

Thank you so profoundly for these words of unity and support. This last week has been very difficult Bluenorthwest Jan 2015 #66

+1 QC Jan 2015 #70

+1 Pooka Fey Jan 2015 #86

+1 sibelian Jan 2015 #110

I also stand with Gays and women of faith ismnotwasm Jan 2015 #67

+1. brer cat Jan 2015 #75

I appreciate the urge to offer support - Ms. Toad Jan 2015 #69

K&R! Bravo! smirkymonkey Jan 2015 #72

+ 1,000,000 dawg Jan 2015 #73

me too! LiberalElite Jan 2015 #78

Take me to church azmom Jan 2015 #83

Amen... Hepburn Jan 2015 #84

Big rec and kick! zappaman Jan 2015 #85

K&R Pooka Fey Jan 2015 #87

K&R The Green Manalishi Jan 2015 #89

The Church has its Crusades. Same as it's always been. Same as it always will be. blkmusclmachine Jan 2015 #91

I have only 1 thing to say to & about LGBT DUers! MarianJack Jan 2015 #92

I am Buddhist, have an atheist, bisexual daughter and stand up for liberal_at_heart Jan 2015 #93

Honey, religion hurts us ALL. nt valerief Jan 2015 #94

I stand with the LGBT Beringia Jan 2015 #95

I don't know what to say here Prophet 451 Jan 2015 #101

Do you deny that religions and their teachings have been hurtful and bigoted toward LGBT people? Bluenorthwest Jan 2015 #113

Distortion of religion and zealotry have long caused people great harm and continue so to do. merrily Jan 2015 #102

Group A abused Group B for no good reason, for centuries and Group B should not even mock them? Bluenorthwest Jan 2015 #107

I don't think you read my post the way I intended it. merrily Jan 2015 #108

So have all societies treestar Jan 2015 #111

I would not remain in a club of bigots, confirming my agreement with bigotry. Bluenorthwest Jan 2015 #114

They are not a club of bigots treestar Jan 2015 #116

K&R Fumesucker Jan 2015 #112