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33. "oh yes, the minority party is powerless -- unless it's republican, in which case it's all powerful"
Sat Jan 17, 2015, 05:34 AM
Jan 2015

Huh?

They are the majority in the House and the Senate.

As for the House, there's no filibuster, the minority doesn't count for squat in the House. In the Senate, its different, in that the minority can filibuster (as long as they have 41 or more votes -- as the Republican minority did in the last Senate, and as the Democratic minority does in this Senate. So hopefully we can use that filibuster power in this and other situations effectively).

>> The rule change was just put in place by the House majority (Republicans)" <<

>>>> "if so, then that's one talking point to attack the republicans with" <<<<

Yes, for sure, their bloody fingerprints are all over it.

>>>> Most americans are very supportive of social security and would willingly pressure the government were they effectively led to do so. <<<<

I sure hope so. The one thing I wonder though is if the majority of voters favor maintaining SSDI (DISABILITY) at current levels, particularly when it requires transferring funds from the OASI (RETIREMENT) to it. It seems there's a lot of narrative out there that SS Disability is a welfare program with a lot of welfare fraud and all that, affecting only a few unlucky people, while the Retirement fund is (relatively) sacrosanct because just about everyone expects to reach retirement age (62 for early benefits) some day.

[font color = red]On Edit[/font] - I don't agree that SS Disability is a welfare program rife with welfare fraud. But the righties pretty much have a monopoly of talk radio and cable. And they seem to almost monopolize e.g. comments on news articles like Yahoo News. So those are some ways they spread their narratives.

Part of the problem is that seemingly most DUers spend almost all of their interactive Internet time on DU, rather than out there on the other message boards and comments to news articles and social media countering these rightie narratives. Rather, we huddle in our little incestuous "safe havens" and endlessly message board message each other... and too often its more like a circular firing squad than a safe haven.

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A 20% reduction will leave me with SamKnause Jan 2015 #1
You are undeserving. Enthusiast Jan 2015 #37
The GOP Still Thinks You Get Too Much. TheMastersNemesis Jan 2015 #2
And you're one of the lucky ones spinbaby Jan 2015 #3
Thank God the house is paid for! Kaleva Jan 2015 #13
Clearly, you do not need that dog ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #4
Shouldn't he also do without gas and electricity? SheilaT Jan 2015 #9
sadly ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #15
AT $30 and $35 a month for gas and electric, I WOULD be doing without them, myself. DebJ Jan 2015 #23
Yes, many more than blue states. MoonRiver Jan 2015 #40
I just wish the gop's actual actions ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #42
True. MoonRiver Jan 2015 #43
Seeing as how the Right constantly stokes up resentment and bigotry.... YoungDemCA Jan 2015 #68
I wonder if there are any statistics for how voters who are on SSDI, TANF, Medicaid... YoungDemCA Jan 2015 #67
The program needs more revenue madville Jan 2015 #5
Yes, we need to raise taxes to fund the program. Otherwise we are just cutting SS and DI a few years Yo_Mama Jan 2015 #36
But we wish to create an artificial crisis. The media will back us up by telling the Enthusiast Jan 2015 #38
So that's why some people here are catapulting the same propaganda. The same rot everywhere. ND-Dem Jan 2015 #53
I'd rather cut the military budget to start taking care of this country. We spend billions on sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #50
Won't that put you below the Medicaid threshold? Downwinder Jan 2015 #6
Don't bring it to their attention cause they just might take that 100 bucks too madokie Jan 2015 #7
Sorry your dog is sick hollysmom Jan 2015 #8
He's a rescue dog and was very abused by the previous owners Kaleva Jan 2015 #12
Hugs to you, Mine are rescue dogs as well. hollysmom Jan 2015 #20
Why is this soc sec talk not ALL OVER THE MSM????? huh????? Media???? TheNutcracker Jan 2015 #10
Actually, in all seriousness, SheilaT Jan 2015 #11
I know a couple that does that but they have expensive toys. Kaleva Jan 2015 #16
They can't garnish SSDI, save the $1,000 atty. fee. Downwinder Jan 2015 #18
It is illegal to charge up debt on purpose then file for bankruptcy gerogie2 Jan 2015 #63
Sometimes bankruptcy is an honorable way out, SheilaT Jan 2015 #64
Allow me to approach your problem like a Republican would... Takket Jan 2015 #14
You forgot the ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #17
Wouldn't it change things if we looked at the military in such a way? Enthusiast Jan 2015 #39
Bottom-line, the GOP wants you to go beg a Church for whatever little pittance they feel you deserve blkmusclmachine Jan 2015 #19
Who can live on $708 a month? Delmette Jan 2015 #21
I will get $229 which I think is less than General Assistance in our state. Of course for me I would jwirr Jan 2015 #22
I am on SS Disability and my disability payment is slightly higher than SS retirement Packerowner740 Jan 2015 #49
Social Security disability benefits are supposed to convert automatically to merrily Jan 2015 #52
I was thinking this might be a move that President Obama might be able to make on his own - jwirr Jan 2015 #54
I think the automatic switch was provided for before Obama but I am not sure of the age. Also not merrily Jan 2015 #55
A very big thank you for the information regarding the tube. She cannot talk so we have never jwirr Jan 2015 #56
I don't know why the medical people don't assure families of this, esp. when, merrily Jan 2015 #57
Please seem #25. According to this and other press reports, its a House rule change progree Jan 2015 #58
When are these cuts to take effect? Anyone know? SammyWinstonJack Jan 2015 #24
Late 2016, if nothing is done progree Jan 2015 #25
it's only 'little recourse' because someone in our party wants us to believe that. ND-Dem Jan 2015 #26
Well, the "big powerful republicans" do control the House, and have a considerable progree Jan 2015 #27
It's been done before, so any 'rule change' has been invented since. ND-Dem Jan 2015 #28
The rule change was just put in place by the House majority (Republicans) progree Jan 2015 #29
if so, then that's one talking point to attack the republicans with instead of pretending like ND-Dem Jan 2015 #30
"oh yes, the minority party is powerless -- unless it's republican, in which case it's all powerful" progree Jan 2015 #33
Oh, you are a real tough one, WOW! progree Jan 2015 #31
Just in time to blame Democrats during the 2016 campaign n/t n2doc Jan 2015 #35
Please let something be done sakabatou Jan 2015 #47
you are very lucky.... chillfactor Jan 2015 #32
Yes, I'm fortunate in some areas. Kaleva Jan 2015 #44
Have you looked into Michigan's Tax Relief program? Lars39 Jan 2015 #45
My heart goes out to you. Shrike47 Jan 2015 #34
"culling the herd" MoonRiver Jan 2015 #41
Is this what they're proposing or what's going to happen? sakabatou Jan 2015 #46
Unless something changes, it is going to happen - please see #25 progree Jan 2015 #48
Please see #58 - I'm amending what I've been saying, so no, its not an automatic progree Jan 2015 #59
What is the point that this OP is trying to make? merrily Jan 2015 #51
In order to live on such an amount, there's a number of things missing from the budget Kaleva Jan 2015 #61
Thanks. So, your point is, it's nowhere near enough. I agree. merrily Jan 2015 #66
I'm so old I remember when Democrats would do all they could to strengthen Social Security. Octafish Jan 2015 #60
You will just have to cut back... gerogie2 Jan 2015 #62
SSI is already less than this in the first place btw daredtowork Jan 2015 #65
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