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NaturalHigh

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92. Truth does not equal conspiracy theories.

Sat Jan 17, 2015, 09:02 AM

Jan 2015

Gary Webb was a gifted, creative writer, but his articles would hardly stand up in court. Scandals do sell newspapers, though.

Sorry, but the whole "CIA brought crack to the ghettoes" thing has never been credible in my mind.

As to the rest:

Yes, we lock up too many people. We need to stop prosecuting people for non-violent drug crimes. My issue with that particular paragraph is the above-mentioned CIA ghetto crack theory.

In my opinion, we don't support Israel nearly enough. Every time there is a terrorist attack against Israelis, we have people crawling out of the woodwork to say "that's terrible, but..." and then try to explain away why Israel deserves it.

Of course there are racist attacks against President Obama, but to claim, as Wright, that all criticism of Obama are the result of racism is pretty one dimensional.

As for the whole "God damn America" meme, Wright knew it was inflammatory and histrionic. That was his whole point. In my opinion, it was a "Praise the Lord, pass the collection plate" move, and it certainly got Wright the attention he craved.

Anyway, gotta run. I'll be back later.

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Jeremiah Wright, was right... [View all] NoJusticeNoPeace Jan 2015 OP

Yep malaise Jan 2015 #1

Remember how frightened White America was when Wright was on their TV? Cali_Democrat Jan 2015 #2

Yep. Too bad no one was willing to say so out loud at the time. truebluegreen Jan 2015 #3

Plenty of people here did navarth Jan 2015 #96

That's actually what I meant: truebluegreen Jan 2015 #97

Plenty of us here saw the truth in what he said arikara Jan 2015 #112

see reply#97 truebluegreen Jan 2015 #116

Who's Jeremiah Wright? KamaAina Jan 2015 #4

It's even worse: H2O Man Jan 2015 #10

Atheist Muslim Socialist Communist JustAnotherGen Jan 2015 #58

Nazi dog eater once wore a tan suit to a press conference gordianot Jan 2015 #65

No! Enthusiast Jan 2015 #93

Exactly. H2O Man Jan 2015 #99

LOL Cali_Democrat Jan 2015 #109

The government gives them drugs? Vattel Jan 2015 #5

Yes, crack cocaine, cocaine, CIA...etc...you have not heard of this? NoJusticeNoPeace Jan 2015 #7

Isn't that a whacky conspiracy theory? Vattel Jan 2015 #9

That is what some say...What there is NO doubt about is drugs have been introduced into NoJusticeNoPeace Jan 2015 #11

But isn't it H2O Man Jan 2015 #15

NO, it doesnt make sense at all...Students are the ones who inundated entire communities? NoJusticeNoPeace Jan 2015 #19

That doesn't make sense. H2O Man Jan 2015 #44

I think the sarcasm thingy is missing. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #54

I thought the sarcasm was obvious. Tatiana Jan 2015 #66

Do you really want to go there? Aren't you worried that this makes you look foolish?: Vattel Jan 2015 #18

Go where? You are the one who is coming into the thread to see if you can find one thing NoJusticeNoPeace Jan 2015 #20

Well you can lead a horse to water . . . Vattel Jan 2015 #21

What was your purpose in this thread? NoJusticeNoPeace Jan 2015 #22

Plus-------- plus------- El Shaman Jan 2015 #52

WTF? What do you mean by that? countryjake Jan 2015 #26

I'm guessing you didn't understand what I meant. Vattel Jan 2015 #30

Okay, so you were making reference to the OP, itself... countryjake Jan 2015 #32

I had raised the issue of whether Wright was advancing a whacky conspiracy theory Vattel Jan 2015 #36

Well then, I do disagree with you that what he's said about drugs... countryjake Jan 2015 #50

I guess I was thinking about the more extreme theories that suggest Vattel Jan 2015 #53

If you're referring to Gary Webb's series in The San Jose Mercury News... countryjake Jan 2015 #80

no, it's not a 'wacky conspiracy theory'. i'm guessing you just don't know much about it. ND-Dem Jan 2015 #71

Poor people are more likely to become drug addicts treestar Jan 2015 #102

There is nothing wacky about it. zeemike Jan 2015 #35

I guess it depends on what theory you are talking about. Vattel Jan 2015 #43

Well if they were involved in drug deals why is it so hard to believe? zeemike Jan 2015 #45

Interesting. I guess I will have to give this story a closer look. Thx. Vattel Jan 2015 #48

where is the part where the CIA made people buy and use drugs? Skittles Jan 2015 #55

Why would they make people do drugs? zeemike Jan 2015 #59

I do not buy the consipracy theory Skittles Jan 2015 #70

Released on April 13, 1989 the Kerry Committee report concluded ND-Dem Jan 2015 #73

And about which assholes were making the money. zeemike Jan 2015 #77

well they certainly get a lot of assistance from people not wearing suits Skittles Jan 2015 #78

Well I would expect that sense there is a lot of money in it. zeemike Jan 2015 #79

and got to destroy communities that they could later buy up cheap and resell for high prices. ND-Dem Jan 2015 #72

Yep profiting through chaos. zeemike Jan 2015 #74

Not so unbelievable though treestar Jan 2015 #103

Is it? ND-Dem Jan 2015 #69

No. It wasn't/isn't a whacky CT ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #76

Before you say "whacky" view "Evidence of Revision" if it is still available on YouTube. kelliekat44 Jan 2015 #108

As if this is WOO! Anansi1171 Jan 2015 #110

I thought so. It's a shame Obama had to throw him under the bus m-lekktor Jan 2015 #6

And to save us from McCain and Palin NoJusticeNoPeace Jan 2015 #24

America was not ready for Reverand Wrights's truths. Truth is religious free. Maybe now? Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #60

I'd say it tells you something about Obama. He & Wright went back some ways. ND-Dem Jan 2015 #75

Jeremiah was a bullfrog! Warren Stupidity Jan 2015 #8

And a mighty good friend of mine benz380 Jan 2015 #88

Those are some of the exact statements that "outraged" candidate Obama countryjake Jan 2015 #12

sigh NoJusticeNoPeace Jan 2015 #13

Double 'sigh'. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #61

There was a thread the other day dpibel Jan 2015 #14

Loonie left? Are you saying that is what I am doing? NoJusticeNoPeace Jan 2015 #17

"Do you think Jeremiah Wright is loonie?" NaturalHigh Jan 2015 #31

NO, but that you do makes perfect sense...believe me NoJusticeNoPeace Jan 2015 #33

I'm hardly alone in my opinion of him. NaturalHigh Jan 2015 #38

Oh I know the entire teaparty agrees with you, and the republican party... NoJusticeNoPeace Jan 2015 #40

I would venture that most Democrats agree with me too. NaturalHigh Jan 2015 #41

I venture you are wrong. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #62

Of Wright's statements quoted above, with which do you disagree? Scuba Jan 2015 #83

1, 2, and 3. NaturalHigh Jan 2015 #85

Just to clarify ... do you think the statements were wrong, or that Wright was wrong to say them? Scuba Jan 2015 #86

I think they're wrong. NaturalHigh Jan 2015 #87

Yet there's mountains of evidence that all these claims are accurate. Scuba Jan 2015 #89

Really? We may have different ideas of what constitutes evidence. NaturalHigh Jan 2015 #90

So you deny that "three strikes" laws have been passed? You deny that we're locking ... Scuba Jan 2015 #91

Truth does not equal conspiracy theories. NaturalHigh Jan 2015 #92

Link please? nt alp227 Jan 2015 #27

Yes, he was. But he was abandoned. I'd like to know why? sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #16

Had he stood by those comments, we would have had John McCain and Sarah Palin NoJusticeNoPeace Jan 2015 #23

That doesn't address the issue at all. If someone is right, they are right period. sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #57

When we own the media then we can. Or get them to remember their press freedoms come with duties. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #63

Becasue America cannot accept the truth from a blackman ChosenUnWisely Jan 2015 #25

exactly NoJusticeNoPeace Jan 2015 #28

I think Jesus would look like and act like....... ChosenUnWisely Jan 2015 #29

- earliest known image of Jesus Christ bigtree Jan 2015 #106

Um...I don't think so. The Coptic split happened in the 6th century and there were earlier images... Moonwalk Jan 2015 #113

There are very religious black people though treestar Jan 2015 #120

Yet White Jesus was the one shown and forced upon the slaves and native people in the Americas ChosenUnWisely Jan 2015 #121

that might have been so at one time treestar Jan 2015 #122

True that is their choice, tradition I guess. ChosenUnWisely Jan 2015 #123

Wright was right. That's why he had to be shut upped. LawDeeDah Jan 2015 #34

Yes, he was. cheapdate Jan 2015 #37

Yes, he was. bravenak Jan 2015 #39

I thought him right when I first heard his words Mira Jan 2015 #42

+100 countryjake Jan 2015 #46

+ another Scuba Jan 2015 #84

Yes, he was correct. lovemydog Jan 2015 #47

Of course he was right Warpy Jan 2015 #49

Great post. I wonder why all the RW stalking dogs have stayed away. marble falls Jan 2015 #51

America is never ready for the truth TheKentuckian Jan 2015 #56

K & R !!! WillyT Jan 2015 #64

The first statement certainly has the ring of truth dissentient Jan 2015 #67

Obama is a one percenter with a net worth of over $2 million. He's rich. And he was raised by ND-Dem Jan 2015 #68

yet, he's still been subject to vicious, opportunistic racism bigtree Jan 2015 #94

It was sad how the media minimize Rev. Wright, just to get at Obama mfcorey1 Jan 2015 #81

Yup madokie Jan 2015 #82

Jeremiah Wright was wrong JayhawkSD Jan 2015 #95

America was founded on two great crimes: theft of land from its indigenous KingCharlemagne Jan 2015 #111

What the hell do you want? Hair shirts? Adrahil Jan 2015 #114

This is really, as we used to say... deep! Stellar Jan 2015 #98

wright and ward churchill both. niyad Jan 2015 #100

During the Hillary vs. Obama wars treestar Jan 2015 #101

I wasn't sure about this... Stellar Jan 2015 #115

Obama's book treestar Jan 2015 #119

Thanks... Stellar Jan 2015 #125

He exposed the truth...America gets frightened when they hear the truth HipChick Jan 2015 #104

I thought what the Rev said back then was spot on. rickford66 Jan 2015 #105

He's in good company. Harriet Beecher Stowe said much the same in UNCLE TOM'S CABIN yurbud Jan 2015 #107

He is a racist glasshouses Jan 2015 #117

Black person cant be a racist in America and he tells the truth, it is why so many distance NoJusticeNoPeace Jan 2015 #118

I don't think the Hillary material is all that meaningful currently but I happen to like Wright a Bluenorthwest Jan 2015 #124

Yup! gopiscrap Jan 2015 #126