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Spike89

(1,569 posts)
43. Weirdly, I think it will take a conservative president
Wed Apr 25, 2012, 04:07 PM
Apr 2012

No liberal, especially a black democrat, can politically afford to push legalization. Just like Nixon could go to China, Reagan could nominate a female to the SCOTUS...you need someone who can afford to piss off a part of their own party. Possibly a conservative dem could pull it off, maybe even Obama could do it in his second term if he is willing to spend that much capital on one issue.

I'm actually semi-confident that this will happen within 10 years. Testing for impairment is one of the most persistent red-herrings ever! There is no roadside test for lots of legal things that can cause impairment. They currently do ticket pot users for DUI and the convictions stick. Ironically, because pot is so illegal in many places, police are less likely to pop a driver for a DUI because the punishment can be draconian--much worse than a liquor DUI. Legalize it and I'd expect to see a rise in the number of pot DUIs issued Not because of more pot-smoking drivers necessarily, but just because cops would be more likely to drop a $200 ticket on a stoner than to place a charge that could send a first-time offender off to prison for years.

There is no field test for lack of sleep--but you can be cited. There are no field tests for a huge variety of perfectly legal drugs that state clearly "Do not drive or operate heavy machinery" but if you're bombed on Percocet, you can certainly get a ticket.

Explain to me why pot is different?

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I am voting NEVER Cronkite Apr 2012 #1
They can easily tax it. former9thward Apr 2012 #22
I agree on all counts, kentauros Apr 2012 #29
So if it were legal people couldn't plant it? Cronkite Apr 2012 #32
I think you misread his #2. kentauros Apr 2012 #34
At LEAST 20 years. kentauros Apr 2012 #2
why do the polls show user names now? doesn't that defeat the purpose of a poll? Liberal_in_LA Apr 2012 #3
Same as recommendations. ellisonz Apr 2012 #7
I like it too.... jaysunb Apr 2012 #15
Not to mention... ellisonz Apr 2012 #19
Will nicely increase the wankery on polls posted in GD, too, I suppose. (nt) Posteritatis Apr 2012 #17
I voted 10 years. Though I think 'decriminalization of small amounts' is a better way to put it RZM Apr 2012 #4
More states will decriminalize possession of several ounces of pot. bluestate10 Apr 2012 #5
We can't even get the drinking age lowered in this country Daniel537 Apr 2012 #6
When it stops being profitable to keep it illegal. Initech Apr 2012 #8
Or, to rephrase that, when it becomes more profitable for big pharma to have it legal Electric Monk Apr 2012 #18
Never, too much money in keeping it illegal. MrSlayer Apr 2012 #9
1970 panader0 Apr 2012 #10
I voted 15. Odin2005 Apr 2012 #11
Never, Jim Crow won't allow it. Kalidurga Apr 2012 #12
+1. It functionally is legal for white people. MichiganVote Apr 2012 #25
Non violent offenders make the best slaves.. Fumesucker Apr 2012 #27
On the 12th of never.... Brooklyn Dame Apr 2012 #13
As does Big Agro, Big Energy and Big Clothes. HughBeaumont Apr 2012 #21
I voted ten years Ohio Joe Apr 2012 #14
As soon as they can figure out how to turn it over to corporations exclusively. TransitJohn Apr 2012 #16
The Obama Administration will continue the raids on marijuana users. RC Apr 2012 #20
Seven years and eight months. Uncle Joe Apr 2012 #23
lol ellisonz Apr 2012 #24
Apparently, when they pry a reefer from my cold dead hand. sofa king Apr 2012 #26
Nationally, I am going with the optimistic 10 years. Ruby the Liberal Apr 2012 #28
A big step will happen when they can test for buzzed driving riderinthestorm Apr 2012 #30
or when cars get some form of autopilot eShirl Apr 2012 #36
When I lived in Orange County, CA in the early 80s, possession was a $25 ticket. Luminous Animal Apr 2012 #31
"This country is fucking nuts." ellisonz Apr 2012 #37
When you can shoot a fucking bullet out of a joint ! RagAss Apr 2012 #33
it's brilliant eShirl Apr 2012 #35
Interesting Breakdown... ellisonz Apr 2012 #38
decriminalized yes, legalized? Probably not. Johonny Apr 2012 #39
Other. As soon as big pharma figures out how they can control the profit from it. Arkansas Granny Apr 2012 #40
I think gay marriage will be legal far before marijuana ever will be. n/t cynatnite Apr 2012 #41
As should happen on a mj thread... NCTraveler Apr 2012 #42
Weirdly, I think it will take a conservative president Spike89 Apr 2012 #43
Kick. ellisonz May 2012 #44
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