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12. SSDI is an easy target.

Reply to SammyWinstonJack (Original post)

Sat Jan 17, 2015, 05:59 PM

Jan 2015

They have and will continue to paint SSDI recipients as greedy takers. The fact that their voting base is way over-represented in SSDI demographics will be no deterrent at all to these attacks. They've got the "vote for your own demise" act down pat.

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Why are republicans targeting SSDI benefits and not SS benefits too? [View all] SammyWinstonJack Jan 2015 OP

Camel's nose under the tent. djean111 Jan 2015 #1

Don't you know? daleanime Jan 2015 #4

Qualify for or not, the recipient still paid into the trust fund and is entitled to collect. SammyWinstonJack Jan 2015 #7

"Fair" is not going to be in play. They already know all of what you said, and they do not care. djean111 Jan 2015 #29

I'm not sure that everybody on SSDI paid in MiniMe Jan 2015 #100

If they have never worked, they would be on SSI- not SSDI. PotatoChip Jan 2015 #103

Thanks, I never really studied that much about it MiniMe Jan 2015 #115

No, someone who has not worked enough quarters cannot collect OASDI, only, if in need, SSI. merrily Jan 2015 #104

Two different pots of money yeoman6987 Jan 2015 #83

More wingnut bullshit. Money has been moved between funds in the past and the only reason ND-Dem Jan 2015 #89

"Simple as that," my ass. Please see Replies 101 and 108 and others on this thread. merrily Jan 2015 #105

Every one o' dem disabled Turbineguy Jan 2015 #2

Divide and conquer...... daleanime Jan 2015 #3

They go after the most vulnerable first 99th_Monkey Jan 2015 #5

But they are outright stealing from one group that paid into the SS trust fund same as SammyWinstonJack Jan 2015 #9

Your SS benefits are determined by how long and at what level you paid in. Warren Stupidity Jan 2015 #17

Pretty sur that's SSI. SSDI you have to have worked a certain amount of time and have contributed. SammyWinstonJack Jan 2015 #21

You have to have 40 work credits 20 of which have to be earned in the last ten yr SammyWinstonJack Jan 2015 #34

I'm looking at having my second knee replacement. Had the first at 45 and went back brewens Jan 2015 #56

I think in order to qualify for SSDI thucythucy Jan 2015 #41

+100 ND-Dem Jan 2015 #91

YES YOU DO. ND-Dem Jan 2015 #90

Untrue. Read the thread. merrily Jan 2015 #109

Umm, no. You have to have worked to qualify for SSDI. PotatoChip Jan 2015 #111

mea culpa. Warren Stupidity Jan 2015 #116

You are taxed more for SSI than SSDI Go Vols Jan 2015 #18

I was under the assumption that one had to work a certain amount of time in SammyWinstonJack Jan 2015 #23

That's SSDI--Social Security Disability Insurance. thucythucy Jan 2015 #43

SSI money comes from the general budget, not from FICA/social security taxes. DI = SSDI and ND-Dem Jan 2015 #92

SSI is not a social security program. SSDI is a social security program, as is OAS. merrily Jan 2015 #110

And, after they make Social Security a needs based program, like welfare, merrily Jan 2015 #108

But both parties are the same! Cali_Democrat Jan 2015 #6

third way democratic leaders frequently argue for SS cuts. Warren Stupidity Jan 2015 #14

Hmm. Perhaps you are thinking of traditional Democrats, rather than New Democrats. merrily Jan 2015 #112

They are targeting SS. They feel that this will encourage a complete overhaul of the system. Hoyt Jan 2015 #8

Do you know how SS and SSDI are funded? Thinkingabout Jan 2015 #10

Through payroll taxes. SammyWinstonJack Jan 2015 #11

How does SSDI get finded? Thinkingabout Jan 2015 #13

FICA dpibel Jan 2015 #20

And with a vote in the Congress to move the funds to SSDI. Many of those Thinkingabout Jan 2015 #28

How many? dpibel Jan 2015 #33

You brought up a source which has not paid into FICA, dependent children who are disabled. Thinkingabout Jan 2015 #42

Cool story, bro. thucythucy Jan 2015 #44

Good post. nt raccoon Jan 2015 #47

Nope, no bs, listen to some of the people whp appears on Judge Judy, plenty with Thinkingabout Jan 2015 #54

Judge Judy? Seriously? Judge Judy is your source on SSDI fraud? thucythucy Jan 2015 #58

I have provided several sources, yes I personally know of adults who have received funds from Thinkingabout Jan 2015 #61

You have not provided "several sources" thucythucy Jan 2015 #68

Go back and read the thread, they are there. Thinkingabout Jan 2015 #86

Just as an experiment, try applying for OASDI or SSI and see how "easy" it is to collect. merrily Jan 2015 #102

BULLSHIT ND-Dem Jan 2015 #84

Since I told you earlier adults receive SSDI looks like I already was educated. Thinkingabout Jan 2015 #93

That doesn't even make sense. But I'm glad to know you're not just misinformed, you're actively ND-Dem Jan 2015 #95

A minor recieving SSDI payments due to a parent recieving SSDI payments Packerowner740 Jan 2015 #97

Bad nerves? dpibel Jan 2015 #49

Don't apologize. thucythucy Jan 2015 #59

Oh, we have a Rand Paul quote. Sorry I spent so much time answering the guy. freshwest Jan 2015 #121

MORE BULLSHIT from the big bullshitter. You have to have worked, and quite some time, to ND-Dem Jan 2015 #81

That's a BALD FACED LIE. You have to have paid into Social Security to get SSDI. ND-Dem Jan 2015 #85

SSI is for those who never paid in, not SSDI. SSDI is based on money paid in while working. freshwest Jan 2015 #120

YOU OBVIOUSLY DON'T. ND-Dem Jan 2015 #94

SSDI is an easy target. Warren Stupidity Jan 2015 #12

How can they say that SSDI recipients are greedy takers when they funded their benefits? SammyWinstonJack Jan 2015 #15

a. they will lie with absolutely no compunction. Warren Stupidity Jan 2015 #16

Then why are their benefits based on what they paid in? SammyWinstonJack Jan 2015 #25

I think you're confusing SSDI with SSI. thucythucy Jan 2015 #45

no, ssi is for people who became disabled at any time but didn't, for whatever reason, pay enough ND-Dem Jan 2015 #72

You could be right. thucythucy Jan 2015 #74

I AM right. ND-Dem Jan 2015 #76

Thank you. thucythucy Jan 2015 #77

thanks for thanking me and sorry to be testy. i see so much BS on this, it's sometimes hard to ND-Dem Jan 2015 #78

I understand, and no need to apologize. thucythucy Jan 2015 #79

best to you too and to all of us. we're gonna need all the luck we can get. ND-Dem Jan 2015 #80

Children lose their benefits when they turn 18 Packerowner740 Jan 2015 #98

SSDI recipients MUST HAVE paid into the system. I don't know where purported democrats get ND-Dem Jan 2015 #73

Oh SSDI has been a target for a loooong time underpants Jan 2015 #32

The SSDI was funded into 2016. The fund is now going broke. It is funded from the SS fund. Thinkingabout Jan 2015 #24

It doesn't get lower than that dpibel Jan 2015 #30

Instituntional fraud is not funded out of the SS fund. Thinkingabout Jan 2015 #35

Orders of magnitude dpibel Jan 2015 #38

"When fraud is realized it should be reported." thucythucy Jan 2015 #46

Right now the subject is SSDI, getting it funded and for those funds to go to the right people Thinkingabout Jan 2015 #55

No, YOU brought up the topic of SSDI fraud, and now you're being called on it thucythucy Jan 2015 #60

right now the subject is why YOU are catapulting the propaganda all over these boards. ND-Dem Jan 2015 #75

She's reporting it to you!!! That's what wingnuts do. ND-Dem Jan 2015 #66

Does it mean veterans disability is on the table to cut? ...nt pbmus Jan 2015 #36

Yes. It does mean that. PotatoChip Jan 2015 #113

Why here's Ms. Wingnut talking points again!!! Got any more links from wingnut sites to spread ND-Dem Jan 2015 #65

We geezers always vote and they don't want to piss us off. Vinca Jan 2015 #19

Exactly.. sendero Jan 2015 #22

Two reasons dpibel Jan 2015 #26

Everyone knows someone fraudulently getting a disability even though it doc03 Jan 2015 #27

If you know someone "fraudulently getting a disability" thucythucy Jan 2015 #48

Make that two dpibel Jan 2015 #50

I don't know anyone fraudulently getting disability. ND-Dem Jan 2015 #67

Fraud rate is actually 0.4%. But good job catapulting the propaganda. jeff47 Jan 2015 #96

I could give plenty of examples and as far as percentage doc03 Jan 2015 #122

Well, you can care about the people who need it jeff47 Jan 2015 #123

I can't believe you don't know one freeloader, you must doc03 Jan 2015 #125

0.4%. That's why I don't know one freeloader. jeff47 Jan 2015 #128

I am scared, I bet any law enforcement officer knows some too. I will put them under citizens doc03 Jan 2015 #126

According to SS.gov one needs 40 work credits 20 of which earned in the last ten SammyWinstonJack Jan 2015 #31

It reminds me of this - LiberalElite Jan 2015 #37

The salami strategy. Basic LA Jan 2015 #39

SSDI is different from SS. SSDI is supposed to be for those who are disabled, perhaps did not Thinkingabout Jan 2015 #40

You keep repeating this, and it's been pointed out to you several times you're just plain wrong. thucythucy Jan 2015 #62

I'm glad i'm not the only one who noticed. she's all over these boards talking about all the ND-Dem Jan 2015 #70

BULLSHIT. You're full of wingnut bullshit. You don't even know what SSDI is, or are deliberately ND-Dem Jan 2015 #69

SSDI is part of OASDI, also known as SS. SSI, however, is a different program from SS merrily Jan 2015 #106

Are you confusing SSDI and SSI? (nt) Recursion Jan 2015 #119

2 or 3 out of 100 are fraudulent, therefore lets stop all benefits and kill as many as we NoJusticeNoPeace Jan 2015 #51

It's actually less than that. thucythucy Jan 2015 #71

The overpayment rate, which isn't even necessarily fraud, is 1.4%. That would be less than 2/100, ND-Dem Jan 2015 #87

I keep seeing these Opening Posts on SSDI with no link to a news article... Jeffersons Ghost Jan 2015 #52

First day of Congress rule change dpibel Jan 2015 #53

Be patient. GeorgeGist Jan 2015 #57

Skipping the sarcasm emote can be merrily Jan 2015 #107

Easy target Prophet 451 Jan 2015 #63

divide and conquer. they don't expect retirees to protest cuts to disabled benefits. whittle ND-Dem Jan 2015 #64

Divide and conquer is exactly what they are trying to do. liberal_at_heart Jan 2015 #82

Yes. ND-Dem Jan 2015 #88

This began with the spreading the fear of SSDI recipients committing fraud for years now. herding cats Jan 2015 #99

One generation against another, one recipient group against another. merrily Jan 2015 #101

It IS "their" fredamae Jan 2015 #114

Divide and conquer. jwirr Jan 2015 #117

SSDI is running out of reserve funds madville Jan 2015 #118

The DI trust fund will be exhausted next year or early in '17. Yo_Mama Jan 2015 #124

Smaller group, so they figure they have a shot at it. napi21 Jan 2015 #127