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sheshe2

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103. Well I posted that I was raised in the church.

Sun Jan 18, 2015, 01:45 AM

Jan 2015

Age one to about 24. Attended classes went to Episcopal camps, sang in the choir. Loved it. We had many discussions about faith and who we were and who we might become. They failed to answer a question of mine, why do babies unbaptized go to limbo and not heaven. An innocent child stays in limbo and never goes to heaven. Not an answer I could wrap my head around.

A man wrote the bible, it can be used and interpreted in many ways. I prefer the human nature of us all to give it life. I stood over my nieces bed when she had just turned two and almost died. I did a thing in my head and prayed to give my life for hers if there was no other way.

I moved away, yet I still have a faith that is uniquely my own. I do pray in my own way. I have faith in my fellow man. I see goodness in many and sad hate in some. "Preach" no. My beliefs are about "Teaching" love and feeling love and respect for one another.

Do not question me.

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This message was self-deleted by its author [View all] KMOD Jan 2015 OP

I stand with them and the women who are harmed. PeaceNikki Jan 2015 #1

You are absolutely right KMOD Jan 2015 #4

It does seem sometimes that us women cwydro Jan 2015 #32

Under the bus they go... jberryhill Jan 2015 #34

"Calming the concerns of conservatives is still a priority for the church."-Sister Simone Campbell Bluenorthwest Jan 2015 #77

Most Pagan faiths that I know of embrace all sexual identities. MohRokTah Jan 2015 #2

Thank you. marym625 Jan 2015 #3

I stand with you, too! Sissyk Jan 2015 #5

Yes, you do! Behind the Aegis Jan 2015 #55

. Sissyk Jan 2015 #79

I WILL ALWAYS FIGHT THE FIGHT Skittles Jan 2015 #6

Honestly, don't worry Prism Jan 2015 #7

+Yes! BrotherIvan Jan 2015 #25

I agree to an extent marym625 Jan 2015 #28

It's more a bitter humor Prism Jan 2015 #44

I get that marym625 Jan 2015 #81

ironic, especially the bit about cocktail parties ND-Dem Jan 2015 #37

Thank you, for your thoughts and perspective. KMOD Jan 2015 #50

I APPROVE OF THIS MESSAGE Skittles Jan 2015 #59

Good post. nt RedCappedBandit Jan 2015 #63

I understand your sentiments wavesofeuphoria Jan 2015 #68

Does standing with LGBT mean standing against God and the sacred in life? Wella Jan 2015 #8

Depends on the God, doesn't it? Prism Jan 2015 #9

That's the not what the OP is saying Wella Jan 2015 #10

Well, what are the principles? Prism Jan 2015 #11

Good answer. n/t marym625 Jan 2015 #29

Actually, it's not a good answer Wella Jan 2015 #97

It was a good answer marym625 Jan 2015 #109

"Sour" is not a principle. Wella Jan 2015 #96

If your principles include supporting a belief system The Green Manalishi Jan 2015 #90

"Filthy gutter religion" Wella Jan 2015 #98

Yeah The Green Manalishi Jan 2015 #105

The principle is simple.... Bohemianwriter Jan 2015 #106

I don't believe it redefines the Democratic party at all. KMOD Jan 2015 #12

Inconceivable jberryhill Jan 2015 #39

The way the attacks fly here, I didn't think that was possible. Wella Jan 2015 #99

Standing against god? sheshe2 Jan 2015 #15

apart from the ones doomed to eternity in the pits of hell? nt uriel1972 Jan 2015 #17

so... sheshe2 Jan 2015 #19

I direct you to the bible etc. and the scripture within. uriel1972 Jan 2015 #22

Your God. MannyGoldstein Jan 2015 #33

That's precisely my question, sheshe2 Wella Jan 2015 #100

Well I posted that I was raised in the church. sheshe2 Jan 2015 #103

Limbo is not biblically based. Wella Jan 2015 #104

I don't know what post you are reading marym625 Jan 2015 #31

... KMOD Jan 2015 #49

Thank you marym625 Jan 2015 #82

havent you figured that out yet? ND-Dem Jan 2015 #38

It's amazing that we know of the existence of LGBT people yet we shun them Fearless Jan 2015 #54

That's not what she is saying at all. dawg Jan 2015 #76

It would be a step in the eignt direction. ncjustice80 Jan 2015 #88

Your application of "sacred" is applied by others to priniciples sibelian Jan 2015 #115

All religions? flvegan Jan 2015 #13

Is that your only critque of my message? KMOD Jan 2015 #14

You alleged a factual statement. flvegan Jan 2015 #16

I agree that hurtful bigots aren't necessarily based in religion. KMOD Jan 2015 #20

Yeah, not about me. flvegan Jan 2015 #21

What is your point here? KMOD Jan 2015 #23

It's proven. flvegan Jan 2015 #24

OK, if you say so. KMOD Jan 2015 #26

Look at this couple being oppressed by religion jberryhill Jan 2015 #36

Yes, because religion never oppresses the LGBT Behind the Aegis Jan 2015 #45

The OP paints with a broad brush jberryhill Jan 2015 #47

Please point it out. Behind the Aegis Jan 2015 #48

I do? I don't mean to. KMOD Jan 2015 #51

So the various LGBT religious leaders are oppressing themselves? jberryhill Jan 2015 #35

see reply #8 KMOD Jan 2015 #41

So your contention is that because Obama is the President of the US, there is no racism in US Bluenorthwest Jan 2015 #80

Thanks. Nice to see. Behind the Aegis Jan 2015 #18

I stand against homophobia, misogyny, racism and hatred whatever mantle or guise it wears BrotherIvan Jan 2015 #27

... cwydro Jan 2015 #30

Amen jberryhill Jan 2015 #40

Here's Rick Warren calling gay people shitty things just before Obama picked him for the Inaugural Bluenorthwest Jan 2015 #64

+1 I well remember that time and those "supporters" ... wavesofeuphoria Jan 2015 #71

It is a very stark and telling contrast, that they demanded that we endure all insult and offense Bluenorthwest Jan 2015 #74

I stand with you! vlyons Jan 2015 #42

I'll be sure to inform my openly gay brother who is a rabbi TorchTheWitch Jan 2015 #43

Ask him if this is also true.... Behind the Aegis Jan 2015 #46

We were raised Catholic by two Catholic parents TorchTheWitch Jan 2015 #57

Very interesting. Behind the Aegis Jan 2015 #58

not by religion - by bigots within a religion or just plain bigots TorchTheWitch Jan 2015 #62

have I told you lately how awesome you are, Behind the Aegis? Skittles Jan 2015 #60

Nope. It was well past due! Behind the Aegis Jan 2015 #61

again, KMOD Jan 2015 #52

That's me. narnian60 Jan 2015 #56

Thank you for your kind words. Fearless Jan 2015 #53

I hear you, I stand with you. nt DLevine Jan 2015 #65

Thank you so profoundly for these words of unity and support. This last week has been very difficult Bluenorthwest Jan 2015 #66

+1 QC Jan 2015 #70

+1 Pooka Fey Jan 2015 #86

+1 sibelian Jan 2015 #110

I also stand with Gays and women of faith ismnotwasm Jan 2015 #67

+1. brer cat Jan 2015 #75

I appreciate the urge to offer support - Ms. Toad Jan 2015 #69

K&R! Bravo! smirkymonkey Jan 2015 #72

+ 1,000,000 dawg Jan 2015 #73

me too! LiberalElite Jan 2015 #78

Take me to church azmom Jan 2015 #83

Amen... Hepburn Jan 2015 #84

Big rec and kick! zappaman Jan 2015 #85

K&R Pooka Fey Jan 2015 #87

K&R The Green Manalishi Jan 2015 #89

The Church has its Crusades. Same as it's always been. Same as it always will be. blkmusclmachine Jan 2015 #91

I have only 1 thing to say to & about LGBT DUers! MarianJack Jan 2015 #92

I am Buddhist, have an atheist, bisexual daughter and stand up for liberal_at_heart Jan 2015 #93

Honey, religion hurts us ALL. nt valerief Jan 2015 #94

I stand with the LGBT Beringia Jan 2015 #95

I don't know what to say here Prophet 451 Jan 2015 #101

Do you deny that religions and their teachings have been hurtful and bigoted toward LGBT people? Bluenorthwest Jan 2015 #113

Distortion of religion and zealotry have long caused people great harm and continue so to do. merrily Jan 2015 #102

Group A abused Group B for no good reason, for centuries and Group B should not even mock them? Bluenorthwest Jan 2015 #107

I don't think you read my post the way I intended it. merrily Jan 2015 #108

So have all societies treestar Jan 2015 #111

I would not remain in a club of bigots, confirming my agreement with bigotry. Bluenorthwest Jan 2015 #114

They are not a club of bigots treestar Jan 2015 #116

K&R Fumesucker Jan 2015 #112