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H2O Man

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8. Interesting.
Sun Jan 18, 2015, 01:26 AM
Jan 2015

I think that any objective examination of the impact of religion mixed with politics has to take into account the large amount of good and bad. That proves difficult, at times, because participants in the discussion can include non-objective people, who either belong to one of the religions being discussed, or have been subjected to the negative influences of a given faith.

I recognize that I am, like most people, incapable of being totally objective. My father, for example, was Catholic, and attempted to force his religion upon his children. Religion that is based upon fear, force, and violence rarely brings out the best potential in people.

As a parent, I attempted to expose my children to different religious schools of thought, with full confidence in their ability to decide for themselves what -- if any -- religious belief system works for them. My oldest son is an atheist; however, our basic value systems, including a respect for and fascination with science, and a love of humanity, are very similar. We both enjoyed doing "social work," and advocating for poor people.

I am convinced that "god" is most often found among poor people. My son has other words to describe what I call "god" -- truth, caring, sharing, and compassion, come to mind. Likewise, while we might have different words to describe our own weaknesses, I think we both try to be aware of our own shortcomings, quirks, etc.

From just that very small example, I'm convinced that it is possible to have interesting and meaningful discussions on the subject.

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Aesop Story [View all] H2O Man Jan 2015 OP
Very well stated. el_bryanto Jan 2015 #1
I do not think H2O Man Jan 2015 #2
DU:GD is an H2O Man Jan 2015 #3
it's like being a German historian in a room full of people yelling "the Nazis were SOCIALIST! it's MisterP Jan 2015 #7
Interesting. H2O Man Jan 2015 #8
careful: that sorta nuance, depth, and attempt to understand what's at stake is gonna get ya MisterP Jan 2015 #9
That would be H2O Man Jan 2015 #10
We are all being manipulated imo. Some of us understand that, others haven't figured it out yet, and sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #21
I have this discussion often with my childhood friend malaise Jan 2015 #4
One of the areas H2O Man Jan 2015 #5
In my opinion God doesn't deserve credit ... GeorgeGist Jan 2015 #6
Self-kick, as opposed H2O Man Jan 2015 #11
“God has no religion” Gandhi Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2015 #12
Right. H2O Man Jan 2015 #13
It's rather ridiculous when you think about it. Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2015 #14
A few years back, H2O Man Jan 2015 #15
I was born in 1947, in a world of turmoil... kentuck Jan 2015 #16
Very interesting. H2O Man Jan 2015 #17
I now live... kentuck Jan 2015 #20
I think of Aesop and Christ as legendary.. ananda Jan 2015 #18
Interesting. H2O Man Jan 2015 #19
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