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Augustus

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94. Religion

Sun Jan 18, 2015, 11:02 AM

Jan 2015

Religion
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/religion

a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, especially when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.

Belief
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/belief

confidence in the truth or existence of something not immediately susceptible to rigorous proof

Thousands of years of commentary and religious scholarship in a variety of different religions would prove you wrong.

Having profound knowledge of an imaginary subject does not make one a critical thinker. Quite the contrary, in fact. Spending your time "studying" religion outside of its anthropology makes one the very opposite of a critical thinker.

But the ultimate failure is this. Nobody on DU was in those demonstrations today, and nobody in those demonstrations will read your commentary. Why do you address this to us?

Sounds like you're sympathetic to those demonstrations. If you're not, why are you taking offense?

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The child abuse that is religion [View all] Augustus Jan 2015 OP

K & R malokvale77 Jan 2015 #1

Sorry, but Christianity is not now relegated to suppression of just gay and minority rights. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #2

This is why we need to ban religion. harrose Jan 2015 #3

Good luck with that shenmue Jan 2015 #4

Who said.. harrose Jan 2015 #7

Communism banned religion, did not work out too well for them. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #5

Of course.... harrose Jan 2015 #6

Where did that happen? Major Nikon Jan 2015 #22

seriously? dsc Jan 2015 #71

Neither the eastern block, China or PRNK banned religion Major Nikon Jan 2015 #72

you cannot ban religion, nor should you Skittles Jan 2015 #8

Apparently we disagree. harrose Jan 2015 #9

there is plenty wrong with wanting to "ban religion" Skittles Jan 2015 #12

That's fine.... harrose Jan 2015 #13

I agree that we'd be better off without out religion. beam me up scottie Jan 2015 #30

On the contrary... harrose Jan 2015 #35

Banning religion makes martyrs out of extremists. beam me up scottie Jan 2015 #38

The fact that banning something will make martyrs out of its adherents... harrose Jan 2015 #39

Banning it would make us the extremists. beam me up scottie Jan 2015 #40

Again, I disagree... harrose Jan 2015 #52

The root of all evil on the planet is.....sleep. pangaia Jan 2015 #44

and sleepwalkers ND-Dem Jan 2015 #77

True. pangaia Jan 2015 #96

I agree that religion is the root of all evil. notadmblnd Jan 2015 #108

Yes cwydro Jan 2015 #55

What's your plan? rug Jan 2015 #16

this should be interesting Skittles Jan 2015 #18

If he doesn't have one, I trust you know what to do. rug Jan 2015 #19

I'm waiting for him to say the magic words "OUR PARTY" Skittles Jan 2015 #24

! rug Jan 2015 #25

I am utterly confused by the back and forth here... harrose Jan 2015 #36

If you want to discuss this seriously don't waste your time with that poster. beam me up scottie Jan 2015 #41

it's not rug doing the baiting Skittles Jan 2015 #66

Admittedly, I don't have one. harrose Jan 2015 #26

Uh-oh. rug Jan 2015 #27

What uh-oh? harrose Jan 2015 #34

Great idea: ban religion. Dr. Strange Jan 2015 #46

Just because one person managed to use religion in a positive manner.... harrose Jan 2015 #47

just one? i don't think anyone's found that peaceful use for nuclear bombs yet though... ND-Dem Jan 2015 #78

You cannot (and should not) bvf Jan 2015 #48

The difference is.... harrose Jan 2015 #49

What value is there in KKK propaganda? beam me up scottie Jan 2015 #51

No, I believe you missed my point. harrose Jan 2015 #53

Practicing religion is freedom of speech. beam me up scottie Jan 2015 #56

Of Course it's protected by the Constitution... harrose Jan 2015 #59

In my opinion there is no value in racist literature. beam me up scottie Jan 2015 #61

Again... harrose Jan 2015 #65

And religious literature? beam me up scottie Jan 2015 #70

so you want to ban religion and keep free speech. well good luck with that. ND-Dem Jan 2015 #79

What value is there bvf Jan 2015 #60

I believe you missed my point. harrose Jan 2015 #62

No, your point is clear. bvf Jan 2015 #68

Religions do good things also treestar Jan 2015 #118

And when a few hundred million refuse to agree to your ethnic cleansing campaign, then what? Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2015 #54

Who said anything about ethnic cleansing? harrose Jan 2015 #57

Ethnic cleansing -- Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2015 #63

As I said earlier... harrose Jan 2015 #67

oh, i'm sure there's smart people who can figure it out, if that's what you want. ND-Dem Jan 2015 #80

Religious people murder gay people daily. Few ever bother to mention this, but that's genocidal Bluenorthwest Jan 2015 #97

And another war for peace will sort this out? Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2015 #98

Is that what I said? No. What I said the pogroms are already going on, the religious are not the Bluenorthwest Jan 2015 #100

"I would never propose any limits to religion much less any elimination of it." Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2015 #105

You have some very fascist ideas of how society should function. NaturalHigh Jan 2015 #104

That cannot be done without being as evil as treestar Jan 2015 #117

What, exactly, do you mean by ban? Marengo Jan 2015 #135

That's good stuff. cleanhippie Jan 2015 #10

You think they are not protesting the slaughter of their people by Western powers? malaise Jan 2015 #11

If that is what is inferred from the OP, then the extremists have already won. cleanhippie Jan 2015 #14

There is something vile about using children to make a political point. rug Jan 2015 #15

You must mean 'unless it is a religious person opposing LGBT marriage' because even the Pope Bluenorthwest Jan 2015 #99

Actually, I must not. rug Jan 2015 #103

Your ability to use words are not in question notadmblnd Jan 2015 #110

And you are who? rug Jan 2015 #112

I don't let annonymous people on a discussion thread offend me notadmblnd Jan 2015 #115

"I'm just pointing our your hypocrisy" rug Jan 2015 #116

you have a good day now. notadmblnd Jan 2015 #120

You're the one who broght up "Christ-like behavior". rug Jan 2015 #124

Not Irony. To be Christian is to be Christ like, no? notadmblnd Jan 2015 #123

Oh? I thought you were leaving. rug Jan 2015 #125

Well hey, I decided to take your bait. notadmblnd Jan 2015 #127

You'll have to wait. I have to meet someone about an arraignment. rug Jan 2015 #128

that's right- Christians gave themselves an out notadmblnd Jan 2015 #132

Some religious people don't, so it's bigger than that treestar Jan 2015 #119

Bingo. Exactly. Brainbent from infancy seveneyes Jan 2015 #17

So, let me be clear. A child brougt up in religion is brainbent from infancy? Do I have that right? rug Jan 2015 #23

A child taught to defend its religion to the death will do so in most cases seveneyes Jan 2015 #28

What, do you think they're all Chucky? rug Jan 2015 #29

Some may be hormonal Chuckys seveneyes Jan 2015 #32

"hormonal Chuckys" dissentient Jan 2015 #37

Deflect much? bvf Jan 2015 #73

Let him have the last word. cleanhippie Jan 2015 #31

What cleanhippie said beam me up scottie Jan 2015 #33

The Pope says that gay people being parents is a form of discrimination against children. Bluenorthwest Jan 2015 #102

You've got to be carefully taught notadmblnd Jan 2015 #111

http://trailblazersblog.dallasnews.com/files/2013/10/AX069_2392_9.jpg blkmusclmachine Jan 2015 #20

Powerful OP. Recommended. dissentient Jan 2015 #21

then lets look at the things americans aren't protesting. that would be the murders of millions ND-Dem Jan 2015 #81

A GREAT post. hifiguy Jan 2015 #42

This message was self-deleted by its author Raine1967 Jan 2015 #43

Jury results Curmudgeoness Jan 2015 #45

LOVE juror #7! beam me up scottie Jan 2015 #50

Thank you. Curmudgeoness Jan 2015 #69

1-6 to LEAVE IT progressoid Jan 2015 #131

best OP I've read in a long while Ligyron Jan 2015 #58

Some protestors are also setting fire to churches oberliner Jan 2015 #64

The OP is psuedo-profundity with a false premise at it's core. kwassa Jan 2015 #74

Heh. bvf Jan 2015 #75

you don't know much about religious scholars or scholarship then. ND-Dem Jan 2015 #83

Well, bvf Jan 2015 #85

If this is what you learned from that, I don't think you have much of interest to add: ND-Dem Jan 2015 #86

l learned a lot, thanks, bvf Jan 2015 #90

LOL! beam me up scottie Jan 2015 #89

Mark Twain could have saved you some time, bvf. Arugula Latte Jan 2015 #129

D'oh! bvf Jan 2015 #134

+100. pseudo-profundity indeed. ND-Dem Jan 2015 #82

Religion Augustus Jan 2015 #94

Thank you. whathehell Jan 2015 #101

I think many just protest that which threatens their personal faith. greyl Jan 2015 #76

Sylvia Plath wanted to become a Catholic and her mother laughed at her. ucrdem Jan 2015 #84

Score one bvf Jan 2015 #87

Yawn. Warren DeMontague Jan 2015 #88

Point out, exactly, where I said that Augustus Jan 2015 #95

You didn't. You'll have to excuse my jaundiced view of some things, around here. Warren DeMontague Jan 2015 #133

K&R pathansen Jan 2015 #91

Kick and recommend F4lconF16 Jan 2015 #92

So many problems with this OP Pooka Fey Jan 2015 #93

Faith means accepting as true things for which there is no evidence oberliner Jan 2015 #109

I'll start by saying I'm a firm unwavering supporter of Secularism/"Laicit�" � la fran�aise Pooka Fey Jan 2015 #113

Very good points oberliner Jan 2015 #114

Thank you Pooka Fey Jan 2015 #122

Great Post. Jawja Jan 2015 #106

What about insisting on "breaking a child's will"?? Manifestor_of_Light Jan 2015 #107

This is as true of religion as it is of certain ideologies. hunter Jan 2015 #126

Kick sarcasmo Jan 2015 #121

Bravo! marym625 Jan 2015 #130

I went to church and Sunday School every Sunday when I was a kid. Blue_In_AK Jan 2015 #136

It's all about the degree Augustus Jan 2015 #139

I understand that a lot of denominations Blue_In_AK Jan 2015 #140

Do you hear yourself? Brigid Jan 2015 #137

Apparently your insomnia did get the better of you Augustus Jan 2015 #138

Wow. beam me up scottie Jan 2015 #141