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In reply to the discussion: The child abuse that is religion [View all]Pooka Fey
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Credit goes to John Michael Greer's peak-oil blog and books (yes, JMG is a Druid), and also the book "Harmony" by HRH Prince Charles for those ideas. Both writers discuss "Scientism" -the post Enlightenment modern world view, which today has become a dogma as unquestioned as most religions. Not to invalidate in any way the value of science and its contributions.
Re: the questions, 'what information could be presented to you/them to no longer hold that belief?' and "if you can show this, then I will no longer assert that": those are valid questions in matters dealing with the material world, but they are not particularly interesting or useful questions in discerning matters pertaining to the realm to faith. I don't agree with your assumption that being able to answer your question is necessary for my faith to be considered valid.
I do think that classical Greek philosophy, logic and argumentation are important in matters concerning faith and religion, because their purpose is the search for truth, and to teach one to discipline the mind. They help one avoid falling into some of religion's more obvious traps.
To tie all this back to the OP, many of Augustus' premises about religion are far from rational and logical; I found the Argumentum ad populum, the "False Cause" fallacy, and the Appeal to Emotion fallacy, which place the whole OP on very flimsy ground.