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Lawmakers Ban Open Carry In Washington State Capitol After Gun Nuts Storm Building [View all]

http://www.politicususa.com/2015/01/17/lawmakers-ban-open-carry-washington-state-capitol-gun-nuts-storm-building.html

"In a classic case of a group hurting their cause more than helping it, approximately 200 gun rights activists demonstrated at Washington’s state capitol building on Thursday morning to ostensibly protest the passage of I-594, a law that expands background checks in the state. A large number of the demonstrators brought assault rifles and holstered pistols to the rally. Eventually, after a number of speeches on the steps of the Capitol, some of the activists entered the building with rifles and made their way to the gallery shortly after that morning’s House session had ended.

A day after this display, Lt. Governor Brad Owen, a Democrat and President of the Senate, announced that openly carried firearms are now banned from the public viewing area. Owen pointed out that other forms of demonstrating are prohibited in the public gallery, such as applause, and they do not allow backpacks and umbrellas to be brought into the area. With that in mind, it would only make sense that guns are off limits."

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More inanimate objects being discriminated against! And their firearms are also being discrimated against. Notice they brought a confused looking child along, because.....reasons. Because nothing says "democracy!" than intimidating a sitting democracy institution with a display of firepower that would kill them all in 30 seconds. Are Muslims with firearms also allowed or just good old boys?
Are they also allowed to get drunk and "excercise" their "rights" in the legislature? How about some free speech to go along with those firearms?

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Texas Legislature Responds To Guns in the Public Gallery with Panic Buttons

http://www.politicususa.com/2015/01/15/belligerent-open-carry-group-confronts-harasses-texas-state-lawmakers.html

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Lawmakers Ban Open Carry In Washington State Capitol After Gun Nuts Storm Building [View all] Fred Sanders Jan 2015 OP

Cold, dead, brains. Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2015 #1

+10,000,000 eom MohRokTah Jan 2015 #3

+1 an entire shit load. Enthusiast Jan 2015 #157

What game are they hunting in Washington DC? Or where did they see a sign of a target range? Thinkingabout Jan 2015 #2

Washington State, GGJohn Jan 2015 #4

That is next up for the idiots. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #7

Washington State is split down the middle between Left Coast and Mountain West starroute Jan 2015 #59

It does indeed. The numerous millitary bases in western washington make for some additional Veilex Jan 2015 #140

This is the capital of the State of Washington, Olympia. nt NutmegYankee Jan 2015 #5

Further damage to the gun militancy movement, courtesy of Open Carry goons. Paladin Jan 2015 #6

I would award them a James Brady gold star for helping with gun control. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #8

And how 'bout a Darwin Award? calimary Jan 2015 #12

Darwin and guns also do not mix well with the Christian warriors in gas masks. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #30

They didn't give a damn.. butterfly77 Jan 2015 #36

Who does not hate hypocrisy and double standards? And they are breaking out all over in the news. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #53

More to come... butterfly77 Jan 2015 #55

+1,000 malaise Jan 2015 #221

Maybe it's a well-concealed cry for help? No pun intended Demeter Jan 2015 #9

Gun Nuts: You Can Open Carry.....But Only If You Aren't Muslim......so, Christians only? Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #11

Yet another instance of Open Carry being a hallmark of white privilege. (nt) Paladin Jan 2015 #16

I just noticed the other person on the right has a bayonet mounted on their rifle. nt benz380 Jan 2015 #23

Oh my God, did not see that....hope the lawmakers also installed panic buttons. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #25

Looks like an old WW1 style bolt action rifle. eom GGJohn Jan 2015 #28

Keep digging..... Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #34

What the fuck are babbling on about now? GGJohn Jan 2015 #41

I believe he is saying the gun nuts should keep digging--in reference to the adage that tblue37 Jan 2015 #110

I don't think so. GGJohn Jan 2015 #115

FS is pro gun control (see post #21 below), so I do think his intention is tblue37 Jan 2015 #122

no, sorry to disagree Duckhunter935 Jan 2015 #123

Pro-gun ban, you mean. beevul Jan 2015 #227

sounds like a banner to me Duckhunter935 Jan 2015 #231

I know it. beevul Jan 2015 #234

Romney supporter, no doubt. dixiegrrrrl Jan 2015 #196

John Stokes needs to quit stealing my ideas: friendly_iconoclast Jan 2015 #239

Wonder why guy in lower right is wearing a gas mask? nt benz380 Jan 2015 #10

Too chickenshit to show his face? calimary Jan 2015 #13

Talking to the empty chair beside him pretending it is Obama? Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #15

Believe it or not, some kind of fucking body armor. Maybe a gun nut could clear that up? Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #14

That's a gas mask, GGJohn Jan 2015 #18

Thank you. On cue. I stand corrected. Gas mask in the legislature it is. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #19

This message was self-deleted by its author GGJohn Jan 2015 #20

Ah, my fan club from the Gungeon arrives..careful there. Handling words without training is as Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #22

there you go with the insults again Duckhunter935 Jan 2015 #45

Another fan. Link? Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #48

easy Duckhunter935 Jan 2015 #50

and you just hit the nail on the head azureblue Jan 2015 #61

So does the Democratic party and the president hack89 Jan 2015 #78

... Major Nikon Jan 2015 #79

Those are Airsoft players, shooting plastic BB's at each other in the woods NickB79 Jan 2015 #89

Good catch!!!! GGJohn Jan 2015 #94

not a chance Duckhunter935 Jan 2015 #207

Be still my heart! Gag! Divernan Jan 2015 #139

That is not a real gun. nt hack89 Jan 2015 #236

that is basic english such as samsingh Jan 2015 #206

+10000 the Gun Humpers have arrived Katashi_itto Jan 2015 #152

Probably because his buddies aren't too fond of bathing n/t n2doc Jan 2015 #240

How is the guy in the first photo not guilty of brandishing? Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2015 #17

A gun nut will tell to you all the intricate details of how The Precious is very safe. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #21

No, they won't. GGJohn Jan 2015 #24

So he is guilty of brandishing a weapon....nice to see you agree and tell us, sir. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #27

Not what I said, GGJohn Jan 2015 #33

What do you call that position? With the finger in the trigger guard ready to go. Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2015 #44

Here in AZ, that would be considered brandishing, GGJohn Jan 2015 #51

Wiki says in WA aiming a gun at another person is brandishing unless done in self-defense. nt benz380 Jan 2015 #56

So you have to actually aim it at someone to be considered brandishing? GGJohn Jan 2015 #60

"That's a pretty loose definition of brandishing." - not really. Veilex Jan 2015 #141

Don't fall for it. He's trying to derail the discussion by controlling the vocabulary. Paladin Jan 2015 #158

And you would know, your side does it all the time. eom. GGJohn Jan 2015 #163

The nice thing about english, is that vocabulary is largly immutable... Veilex Jan 2015 #242

Right!!! I love how the gun-nutters make up terms to sound all smart and shit mentalslavery Jan 2015 #247

Do not let the gunners get you off track, the topic is the crazies with guns intimidating democracy Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #161

Coming from you? GGJohn Jan 2015 #168

What does the law say? hack89 Jan 2015 #62

It doesn't say anything; you have to read it. Nuuk nyuk. Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2015 #71

classic example of heaven05 Jan 2015 #26

yow: that looks like stuff from Kiev MisterP Jan 2015 #29

I saw those pictures also...the purpose is not "rights", the purpose is political intimidation. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #31

It would have been fitting if,,,,,,, Cryptoad Jan 2015 #32

They would have been locked up or worse. nt benz380 Jan 2015 #35

Thats what Im talking about,,,,,,,, nt Cryptoad Jan 2015 #46

Will this just deepen their psychosis? Preppers are a strange group. Rex Jan 2015 #37

Open carry says, "Don't mess with me 'cause I'm armed and tough" mindwalker_i Jan 2015 #38

And, look, I brought my kid with me so he can see democracy in action....from the barrel of a gun? Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #40

They seem to think that... butterfly77 Jan 2015 #39

An excellent example in as to why gun control is needed. Dawson Leery Jan 2015 #42

"Ye shall know them by their deeds". Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #43

And the WA. State lawmakers took care of that problem. eom GGJohn Jan 2015 #47

I am not sure I agee it is taken care of. genxlib Jan 2015 #67

Open carry isn't really the problem, GGJohn Jan 2015 #70

How did you tell who is the criminal and who is the good old boy? When they take aim? Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #73

Ummmm, the criminal would be the one committing crimes. GGJohn Jan 2015 #74

Follow these simple and helpful hints! Electric Monk Jan 2015 #83

Tell that to the mother who's 2 year old shot her dead Politicalboi Jan 2015 #84

Those are relatively rare occasions. GGJohn Jan 2015 #85

Well, they become a criminal after they shoot or intimidate soneone. Hoyt Jan 2015 #91

Or rob someone. N/T beevul Jan 2015 #228

So Arizona hasn't got any Liberty Speakers, Sovereign Citizens, "Creativity" types? countryjake Jan 2015 #134

I wouldn't know, I don't hang around with those kind of people. eom GGJohn Jan 2015 #153

Do they hang around you, though? Do you like their thinking? Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #162

Hey genius, GGJohn Jan 2015 #165

Non-responsive, but clear as a bell. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #166

Why don't you tell us just what the fuck you're babbling on about again? eom GGJohn Jan 2015 #167

Post Survives... ProdigalJunkMail Jan 2015 #176

Thanks for the results. GGJohn Jan 2015 #177

he answered your question Duckhunter935 Jan 2015 #170

Ya know, you would think Fred would be tired by now of having GGJohn Jan 2015 #172

more like tired from running away from Duckhunter935 Jan 2015 #189

This message was self-deleted by its author guyton Jan 2015 #49

But he is surrounded by good white folks brandishing the protective armor of second amendment remedies? Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #52

This message was self-deleted by its author guyton Jan 2015 #66

Probably scared crazy by the crazies waving guns around, just a wild guess. The lawmakers were. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #68

Actually that is a great idea! ncjustice80 Jan 2015 #160

This message was self-deleted by its author guyton Jan 2015 #210

I wasnt joking either. ncjustice80 Jan 2015 #241

Yay guns!!!! Initech Jan 2015 #54

Starting? jmowreader Jan 2015 #86

These damn fools do this and then wonder why some want more legislation to control guns as RKP5637 Jan 2015 #57

The last photo should be "Exhibit 'A' in any gun control debate. It's a keeper. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #63

Morons. n/t Jefferson23 Jan 2015 #58

The irony is that the government collects records of their phone calls and computer searches JDPriestly Jan 2015 #64

Apparently because there is a clause in the constitution that makes guns immune from laws? Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #65

So I guess that the more than 20,000 Federal/State/Local firearm laws GGJohn Jan 2015 #75

Immune from laws. Is free speech immune from laws? JDPriestly Jan 2015 #77

wankers nothing but wankers olddots Jan 2015 #69

I think it is just the power rush, sexuality does not have to enter the equation, power in their Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #72

This is masturbating in public. ZX86 Jan 2015 #130

It only takes a few gun nuts to ruin it for all the rest of the gun nuts Major Nikon Jan 2015 #76

The only explanation? bleedinglib Jan 2015 #80

I see white people storming a government building with military assault weapons and workinclasszero Jan 2015 #81

I get your drift, GGJohn Jan 2015 #82

They still kill efficiently; otherwise, gun fanciers would have no interest in acquiring them. Hoyt Jan 2015 #92

Any firearm can kill efficiently, especially in the hands of someone GGJohn Jan 2015 #93

How many so-called Assault Rifles did you brag about owning? Hoyt Jan 2015 #98

I didn't because I don't own any Assault Rifles. eom GGJohn Jan 2015 #100

No ARs or other semi-autos? Hoyt Jan 2015 #108

Those aren't Assault Rifles. GGJohn Jan 2015 #116

you would think Hoyt would know better by now Duckhunter935 Jan 2015 #124

Nope. But they called an "assault rifle." In fact, they are marketed as that to you guys. Hoyt Jan 2015 #178

So, Hoyt, what does the AR stand for? eom. GGJohn Jan 2015 #179

Gun nomenclature doesn't interest me, but it stands for Armalite. Fact is, assault rifles are Hoyt Jan 2015 #180

Took you a while to go look it up didn't it? GGJohn Jan 2015 #182

Semi-autos can kill about as many folks as auto -- Sandy Hook, Auoro, etc. Hoyt Jan 2015 #184

I actually like bolt action and semi-auto Duckhunter935 Jan 2015 #191

Yeah, the AR platform is a necessity for duck -- or any other type of -- hunting. Hoyt Jan 2015 #194

so just how many times do I have to tell you Duckhunter935 Jan 2015 #195

That's nice. You still promote guns here, and use a gun related reference in your user name. Hoyt Jan 2015 #198

not promoting, just saying they have uses Duckhunter935 Jan 2015 #202

So obvious. So revealing of the gunner mentality. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #187

An "assault rifle" is whatever the NY Times says it is, on any given day. Paladin Jan 2015 #190

A "non-assault" semi-auto still kills real good, that is so undeniable. Sandy Hook is the evidence. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #192

so you admit there is no Duckhunter935 Jan 2015 #193

Here's what I'll admit: Paladin Jan 2015 #197

"It's chicken-shit behavior on your part" Duckhunter935 Jan 2015 #205

Exactly, the gun nomenclature game they use is just a ruse. Hoyt Jan 2015 #208

That does not bother me that much Duckhunter935 Jan 2015 #211

Well, even colt 1911s are marketed as Automatics. Semi-autos are capable of firing rapidly. Hoyt Jan 2015 #213

yep, some early semi-auto pistols were (NSFW pictures) Duckhunter935 Jan 2015 #216

^^^^^^^^GUN PORN warning^^^^^^^^^ Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #217

I added a disclaimer Duckhunter935 Jan 2015 #218

Pull the trigger, what is there to train on, a 2 year old can do it! Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #219

so Hoyt posted gun porn too? Duckhunter935 Jan 2015 #220

I didn't post it for gunners' prurient interests. Hoyt Jan 2015 #223

I did not either, knowledge is power Duckhunter935 Jan 2015 #224

amazing my question to Fred goes unanswered Duckhunter935 Jan 2015 #225

A two year in a shopping cart can kill an adult, they are all efficient in killing, it is what they do. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #95

Who cares? Bullet-dispensers DO NOT belong in our capitol building! countryjake Jan 2015 #99

Exactly. Parsing the firepower of each individual firearm in the gallery is pathetically deflective. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #106

Not only deflecting, I'd like to see him try telling the dope who had that old AR-10 countryjake Jan 2015 #132

Angry children, too immature to understand their sad lives are their fault, not the gubermint. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #133

Slap the dumb mofos in jail. OldRedneck Jan 2015 #87

Slap them in jail for what? GGJohn Jan 2015 #88

Creating a disturbance, impeding government, terrorism, public nuisance, etc. Hoyt Jan 2015 #109

Intimidation, public mischief, criminal negligence, endangering a child, general foolishness? Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #113

Apparently the authorities disagree with you. GGJohn Jan 2015 #118

Yeah, they were cool with the racist Bundy Ranch Militia. IIRC, you were too. Hoyt Jan 2015 #136

I was cool with the racist Bundy Ranch Militia? GGJohn Jan 2015 #154

Lol read the reply again. ncjustice80 Jan 2015 #159

I don't need to re-read it, GGJohn Jan 2015 #169

maybe they need to reread that insult Duckhunter935 Jan 2015 #171

Laws aren't quite as flexible or maleable as group SOPs are. N/T beevul Jan 2015 #229

Maybe they ought to be when we allow terrorist gun nuts like that to intimidate people. Hoyt Jan 2015 #230

Ok. Since you admitted you robbbed people in the past, lets take you to jail first. N/T beevul Jan 2015 #232

I hope you are consistant Duckhunter935 Jan 2015 #233

Found that link yet Mr. Hoyt? GGJohn Jan 2015 #238

agreed. they have a right to be there with all their guns. samsingh Jan 2015 #204

Had. Past tense, they no longer are allowed, which is a good thing IMO. eom GGJohn Jan 2015 #237

this is an attack on my 2A rights samsingh Jan 2015 #243

No, not really. GGJohn Jan 2015 #244

it's the tip of the iceburg. if we give in here samsingh Jan 2015 #245

Seems fair NickB79 Jan 2015 #90

See they can protect themselves malaise Jan 2015 #96

Looks like they all lead lonely, empty lives...pity that poor child they placed right in the middle. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #97

What disturbs me is why they are more afraid of what the 'skin color' folks malaise Jan 2015 #142

Damn them! They're infringing on our right to keep and bear backpacks! progressoid Jan 2015 #101

Now hold on a second. When it comes to their safety they ban guns but don't give rhett o rick Jan 2015 #102

Gee, ya think? Chemisse Jan 2015 #103

The back pack could be concealing a gun? Take it out and brandish it though, good to go? Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #107

So prior to this incident umbrellas were banned but guns were cool BeyondGeography Jan 2015 #104

Well sure SwankyXomb Jan 2015 #125

Maybe they are prohibited because they are not harmless inanimate objects? Like a gun. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #126

That's an interesting thought: AleksS Jan 2015 #212

Can we get every idiotic gun nut in one massive circle and then, Arugula Latte Jan 2015 #105

How come gunners have no problem registering their kids with the government, but not their killing Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #111

Really, pop a bag or something and watch em duck. Hoyt Jan 2015 #112

They would need an "American Diaper". My next film project about gunners in America. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #114

This message was self-deleted by its author GGJohn Jan 2015 #120

LOL. GGJohn Jan 2015 #121

Stupid. Yeah, Protest "extended background checks" .. because that might actually Cha Jan 2015 #117

A scene from my soon to be released sequel to American Sniper...... Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #119

We should support open carry demonstrations Matrosov Jan 2015 #127

No, we should not. We should continue to mock them and their lawmaker enablers. No support. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #129

No, they're white. It won't work. jeff47 Jan 2015 #200

"Black Panther Open Carry March" will have them scrambling for gun control faster than you can say Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #201

If these half wits secondvariety Jan 2015 #128

So that state's lawmakers will protect themselves but no one else? nt valerief Jan 2015 #131

Fucking gun humpers! gopiscrap Jan 2015 #135

The guy in that picture looks like a Nazi. I can't wrap my mind around nuts with guns in the ND-Dem Jan 2015 #137

The OC people are starting to go nuts in Texas(!) as well Proud Liberal Dem Jan 2015 #138

Gun nuts are being used as pawns by those in power exactly as religious nuts are used. Useful Idiots. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #144

Suppose an equal number of black gun owners storm Mississippi's capital Orrex Jan 2015 #143

I would like a minority gun nut group to do the same on the same day the white gun nut group goes..... Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #145

Months ago my local "gun shop" had some sort of "bring out yer guns" rally. Orrex Jan 2015 #147

White privilege is made more powerful when white folks have black guns. Like the police. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #148

What, were they high? underpants Jan 2015 #146

Fox News and hate radio and TV IS a drug. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #149

Fred Sanders Diclotican Jan 2015 #150

Even as gun laws are the loosest they have been, ever, it is still the position of the gun nuts Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #151

Fred I love you trumad Jan 2015 #155

I get under their skin and I keep burrowing..I am not trying to change their gun obsessed minds, I Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #156

I have my own little gang of small penis MRA types, trumad Jan 2015 #173

They seem unaware of how childishly shrill they are, look at how they defend the gunners, yet Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #181

LOL. This gets funnier with every post. GGJohn Jan 2015 #183

Yes, the gunner responses do get funny. Hoyt Jan 2015 #185

At least we have a sense of humor, unlike the anti's. eom. GGJohn Jan 2015 #186

and they are the same ones Duckhunter935 Jan 2015 #246

LOL!!! You? Get under our skin? GGJohn Jan 2015 #175

What a difference in governance!! lark Jan 2015 #164

In WI-they are allowed in Capitol Building but not in lawmaker offices...... riversedge Jan 2015 #188

Now that cannabis is.... CanSocDem Jan 2015 #174

This started when gun nuts stormed Oregon's capitol building 2 years ago... cascadiance Jan 2015 #199

this is the one place where guns should be allowed in all forms samsingh Jan 2015 #203

Good guy???? mfr4 Jan 2015 #209

................... Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #214

When is a gun owner -not- a gun nut? Shamash Jan 2015 #215

I live in Georgia which has one of the most liberal carry policies in the nation..... RationalMan Jan 2015 #222

Oklahoma is no carry in government Duckhunter935 Jan 2015 #226

They're so fucking stupid! Gunners and tea-billies are really something. Ed Suspicious Jan 2015 #235