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alcibiades_mystery

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103. Very obviously, bullying exists, and some is even severe and persistent
Sun Jan 18, 2015, 03:07 PM
Jan 2015

I think it is a very small minority of bullying that operates that way.

What I suspect is that on a forum like this, where it is clearly popular to have been bullied people inflate their negative experiences far beyond their reality, and then, yes, invent these revenge fantasies for public tellings, because they are part of the way these narratives work. So, yes, there is bullying, and there is also a shit ton of bullshit about it.

I managed to go to overcrowded public schools and even to be in the "nerd classes" through a good bit of my time, and I never saw persistent, vicious bullying - not one instance. Not one. Lawd, it's a miracle! Were some kids simply not that popular? Sure. Were some kids taunted and even tormented from time to time? Yes. Sure. Were kids beat up after school and the like? Yeah, it was NYC in the 80's. Did I feel bullied at times? I think probably everybody did. But these tales of long-term tormenting and bullying just don't scan for me. I think they're inflated. Kids could be mean but mostly didn't care enough to bother one other kid for extended periods. Obviously, I wouldn't speak to the experience of an LGBT kid growing up in suburban Dallas in the 70's, or something like that. Maybe it was like that. But I wonder.

The sheer volume of people here claiming the endless horror of their teen years, followed by some comeuppance? No. I don't buy it. I think they're taking a few negative experiences and inflating them. And I think there's a culture here that enables that practice and encourages it.

I'm not going to speak to the suicide issue because it is far more complex than some vague notion of "bullying."

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The girl should be arrested and spend some jail time. trumad Jan 2015 #1
it's called a breaking point... lame54 Jan 2015 #4
If not longer. LiberalArkie Jan 2015 #7
Which one? H2O Man Jan 2015 #9
H trumad Jan 2015 #20
BS. I was bullied for almost three years in High School. Daily unbelievable Hell Katashi_itto Jan 2015 #18
Well I'm glad you didn't kill them... trumad Jan 2015 #21
My only regret is not doing enough damage to the leader. Katashi_itto Jan 2015 #23
Wow, just wow, you are a wanna be little psychopath, aren't you? Humanist_Activist Jan 2015 #151
I went to Jr High with a girl AgingAmerican Jan 2015 #159
I was pulled out of middle school due to bullying, I was beaten up on an almost daily basis... Humanist_Activist Jan 2015 #162
This is disguisting. You are a violent and barbaric individual. NCTraveler Jan 2015 #158
Were you bullied? AgingAmerican Jan 2015 #160
Welcome to the Human Race Telcontar Jan 2015 #161
Spoken like someone who most like was the bully joeglow3 Jan 2015 #165
The funny thing was my Mother kept going to the school and they would do nothing Katashi_itto Jan 2015 #24
I think you did a great service for the populace. Perhaps the idea of torturing someone else... BlueJazz Jan 2015 #43
...thanks Katashi_itto Jan 2015 #70
But...But...I like Pretentious dribble....That's 90 percent of my shitty posts. BlueJazz Jan 2015 #95
My bad Katashi_itto Jan 2015 #111
Hey! I appologize Katashi_itto Jan 2015 #144
No big deal. I just thought that maybe you were having a bad day. BlueJazz Jan 2015 #145
Your praise of violence is disgusting. phil89 Jan 2015 #33
Your lack of understanding is confusing. Gemini Cat Jan 2015 #34
Lol...! So glad to know your the arbitrator of morals Katashi_itto Jan 2015 #35
Someone really needs to have been there to understand it. Frank Cannon Jan 2015 #47
Your dead on. These guys terrorized everyone. Katashi_itto Jan 2015 #52
I know this is kind of Off topic, but... Stellar Jan 2015 #156
People like you are the reason bullies exist Downtown Hound Jan 2015 #114
I don't agree with calling anyone a pansy, but Jamastiene Jan 2015 #137
I view people like you as worse than bullies. You are enablers of bullies. Katashi_itto Jan 2015 #143
I'm sorry, who was "defending themselves" in the video above? n/t Humanist_Activist Jan 2015 #150
I am guessing you and I will have two different answers to that question joeglow3 Jan 2015 #167
Let me put it this way, no one deserves to get beat up, for any reason whatsoever. Humanist_Activist Jan 2015 #170
Let me tell you a story joeglow3 Jan 2015 #174
Sadly I have to agree with you SteveG Jan 2015 #49
Cool story alcibiades_mystery Jan 2015 #66
Good for you! Bullying can ruin ones life; the effects are Flatulo Jan 2015 #138
Oh, I don't know. joshdawg Jan 2015 #32
Violence is never phil89 Jan 2015 #37
Well, then, what would you do? joshdawg Jan 2015 #39
Something tells me you were the bully back in the day joeglow3 Jan 2015 #168
I wouldn't convict Renew Deal Jan 2015 #42
Sometimes you reach a point when it's just too much. polly7 Jan 2015 #48
I'd add that everyone who stood around watching a defenseless person get beaten should be ashamed. cherokeeprogressive Jan 2015 #65
She wasn't defenseless. nt. polly7 Jan 2015 #68
She was no longer defending herself. Had it been a boxing match; the referee would have stopped it. cherokeeprogressive Jan 2015 #78
The girl giving her an ass-kicking was egged on and took it too far, polly7 Jan 2015 #92
This message was self-deleted by its author Desert805 Jan 2015 #139
Bullshit Downtown Hound Jan 2015 #115
Internet tough guys.. trumad Jan 2015 #117
Or, a realist who has endured what that person has endure joeglow3 Jan 2015 #169
Unfortunately, that's all that some people understand MannyGoldstein Jan 2015 #131
But but but malaise Jan 2015 #2
yep never any shortage of hypocrisy on du belzabubba333 Jan 2015 #41
one could if he had no sense dsc Jan 2015 #55
you mean your definition of sense b/c the two situations while not the same seem very similar to me belzabubba333 Jan 2015 #63
Or...one could see the bully as fundamentalist religion. ForgoTheConsequence Jan 2015 #83
What did you just say? sibelian Jan 2015 #93
Duhhhhhhhhhhhhhh....... tabasco Jan 2015 #112
Well you also have the case in Florida exboyfil Jan 2015 #3
"Kick her in the face!" Stephen Retired Jan 2015 #5
Why didn't any other classmates Ilsa Jan 2015 #6
Now see ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #10
The way I see it... trumad Jan 2015 #19
Agreed. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #28
Agree. That was egregious. tblue Jan 2015 #94
Cops do. I see videos all the time of cops kicking people--often handcuffed, tblue37 Jan 2015 #129
. MohRokTah Jan 2015 #8
Exactly what I thought of!! 7962 Jan 2015 #13
omg me too.. yuiyoshida Jan 2015 #116
Sometimes a good old fashioned asskicking is in order. PeteSelman Jan 2015 #11
Where were the adults? teachers? parents? vlyons Jan 2015 #12
How do we know they didn't report the problem? sarge43 Jan 2015 #16
This is what happens Bettie Jan 2015 #58
That doesn't work. They learn bullying from their parents. alfredo Jan 2015 #31
Wonder how many other people she's bullied? 7962 Jan 2015 #14
It could be a cheap life lesson for both of them glasshouses Jan 2015 #15
I won't watch these "girl fight" videos. cwydro Jan 2015 #17
Are they, in your opinion, worse than "boy fight" videos? whathehell Jan 2015 #22
of course not. cwydro Jan 2015 #27
"Of course not"? whathehell Jan 2015 #38
No it's not. Are_grits_groceries Jan 2015 #84
Well, when I grew up cwydro Jan 2015 #102
Not where I taught. nt Are_grits_groceries Jan 2015 #106
I agree BrotherIvan Jan 2015 #113
Actually no not so much. calimary Jan 2015 #90
I'm not going to say I approve FrodosPet Jan 2015 #25
Here's what I don't understand: chervilant Jan 2015 #26
Because a hell of a lot of us were bullied. jeff47 Jan 2015 #57
Catharsis is an interesting reason. chervilant Jan 2015 #71
Didn't watch the video. jeff47 Jan 2015 #73
Well, I cannot watch such videos, chervilant Jan 2015 #81
I was bullied cwydro Jan 2015 #142
I dunno how I'd react if I was that girl being bullied. Inkfreak Jan 2015 #29
I had a short fuse as a kid. If bullied, I'd fight back. alfredo Jan 2015 #30
Apparently The Wizard Jan 2015 #36
It's called....poetic justice.... Bohemianwriter Jan 2015 #40
Kicked in the head? exboyfil Jan 2015 #45
Don't start nothing, won't be nothing. You attack people for your jollies then TheKentuckian Jan 2015 #64
what death? trumad Jan 2015 #119
The potential one feared from the bully getting the script flipped on them the poster was discussing TheKentuckian Jan 2015 #127
I'm assuming you are talking about the girl that STARTED the fight. Humanist_Activist Jan 2015 #152
I'm not speaking specifically to this incident but in general about violent bullies TheKentuckian Jan 2015 #180
Violence in response to insults is never acceptable Taitertots Jan 2015 #44
Violence is never a good solution Bettie Jan 2015 #46
Would the bully defenders here prefer suicide? Frank Cannon Jan 2015 #50
I don't know Bettie Jan 2015 #53
That's a lot of fallacy packed into such a small space Major Nikon Jan 2015 #133
Sigh. Frank Cannon Jan 2015 #134
I'm not sure how obfuscation fixes your fallacies Major Nikon Jan 2015 #135
Difference is we have a society that tries to stop rape and murder joeglow3 Jan 2015 #177
Support whoever you want and that's fine Major Nikon Jan 2015 #179
Actually I think a lot more is done these days exboyfil Jan 2015 #51
More is done sometimes Bettie Jan 2015 #56
Sorry but your kid doesn't know how to deal with it but rather how to suck it up TheKentuckian Jan 2015 #61
I cannot tell my child that violence is the solution Bettie Jan 2015 #74
No, teaching a child to defend themselves is NOTHING like allowing your child to be a bully TheKentuckian Jan 2015 #107
Amen joeglow3 Jan 2015 #178
As it should, thank you for fostering a little better world. TheKentuckian Jan 2015 #181
Fundamentally, the problem is bullying is a learned behavior. jeff47 Jan 2015 #59
i just dont agree qazplm Jan 2015 #85
so the takeaway so far in this thread is... trumad Jan 2015 #54
Yes, time started at the beginning of the video. jeff47 Jan 2015 #60
And also, because someone is called a bully on the internet, it absolutely must be true. chrisa Jan 2015 #62
Like I said ....... there are times when eventually the hurt and rage becomes overwhelming. polly7 Jan 2015 #67
I won't condone that but once the bully actually bullies and I mean gets physical then you bet your TheKentuckian Jan 2015 #69
Ender, that you? nt tblue37 Jan 2015 #132
Funny Desert805 Jan 2015 #140
agreed ... as if there wavesofeuphoria Jan 2015 #75
To read DU's discourse on bullying, you'd have to believe that everyone is bullied for years alcibiades_mystery Jan 2015 #86
keyboard warriors... trumad Jan 2015 #91
It's sad that you actually think that. NutmegYankee Jan 2015 #97
OK alcibiades_mystery Jan 2015 #99
I take it no one is bullied in your fantasy world? NutmegYankee Jan 2015 #100
Very obviously, bullying exists, and some is even severe and persistent alcibiades_mystery Jan 2015 #103
LOL, the good ole "it didn't happen to me, therefore it doesn't happen". NutmegYankee Jan 2015 #108
That's not what I said at all alcibiades_mystery Jan 2015 #109
Where are your stats? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jan 2015 #153
wow lunasun Jan 2015 #154
Thank you! I thought I was just Codeine Jan 2015 #146
Not cynical. Just ignorant and lazy joeglow3 Jan 2015 #176
To read this post, you are an willfully ignorant joeglow3 Jan 2015 #175
There is only one thing a bully understands and that is intimidation. Rex Jan 2015 #72
I agree with this part..."The girl grabs the bully, pulls her down, then becomes the bully." Iggo Jan 2015 #76
The video shows a beat-down that ends with a defenseless person getting kicked repeatedly while down cherokeeprogressive Jan 2015 #77
Not guilty by reason of temporary insanity (grieving sister). aikoaiko Jan 2015 #79
I suspect with the French terrorists could have used the same defense. trumad Jan 2015 #80
Was Charlie Hebdo mocking the deaths of their sisters? aikoaiko Jan 2015 #82
no but they could say they were temporarily insane trumad Jan 2015 #88
If that analogy makes sense to you, and I can understand why it would, so be it. aikoaiko Jan 2015 #96
The difference is the death of the sister is the trigger not the mocking WestCoastLib Jan 2015 #141
Some have been falling all over themselves here to apologize for the folks who killed cartoonists Warren DeMontague Jan 2015 #128
When bullying is relentless Are_grits_groceries Jan 2015 #87
is there anything that proves it was relentless? trumad Jan 2015 #89
the "bully" does not seem phased GreatGazoo Jan 2015 #98
title should be 'revenge porn for the bullied' belzabubba333 Jan 2015 #101
Indeed alcibiades_mystery Jan 2015 #105
The only way to stop a bully since the dawn of time. alphafemale Jan 2015 #104
Amazing how many sociopaths are on this board, excusing violence. n/t Humanist_Activist Jan 2015 #110
yep.. trumad Jan 2015 #118
Hope she gets used to a wheelchair. n/t dilby Jan 2015 #120
Post removed Post removed Jan 2015 #123
You mad? dilby Jan 2015 #126
You know, this is a post I'm going to save and pull out for EVERY discussion you have here in the... Humanist_Activist Jan 2015 #148
i would expect no less from someone who sides with a bully. dilby Jan 2015 #157
I'm sorry, you are the psychopath advocating for a child to be permanently handicapped... Humanist_Activist Jan 2015 #163
And you are exactly like a bully. dilby Jan 2015 #164
Excuse, who is the bully again? Who is cheering on the beating of a child here? n/t Humanist_Activist Jan 2015 #171
I've noticed this too. Gemini Cat Jan 2015 #173
From one of the asshole club .... polly7 Jan 2015 #166
No, I am circumstantially recommending violence as the most effective and logical response to TheKentuckian Jan 2015 #121
Actually, I wrote an OP about it. Humanist_Activist Jan 2015 #124
I think they both need counseling Skittles Jan 2015 #122
I'm about to get a hide.. trumad Jan 2015 #125
Well, I'm of the belief that there is no such as a fair fight. Lobo27 Jan 2015 #130
my son stopped it in 5th grade MFM008 Jan 2015 #136
Meh Capt. Obvious Jan 2015 #147
OF COURSE the appropriate response to hurtful words is to beat the person who said them senseless, Nye Bevan Jan 2015 #149
Why didn't the school do anything abelenkpe Jan 2015 #155
World star! Jesus Malverde Jan 2015 #172
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