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titaniumsalute

(4,742 posts)
Sun Jan 18, 2015, 10:46 PM Jan 2015

I'm done being a "liberal" [View all]

I have never been a fan of "labels." But everyday I am becoming even more perturbed with labels. Liberal, Conservative, right, left, Dem, repub, etc.

I am an individual who has certain principals. I'm not sure if they jive with others who hold a number of similar principals. I am my own individual with my own thoughts, opinions, and ideas of how to progress.

I support the American worker to have certain rights to fair wages and benefits. I support educating our youth in the best way possible and to be competitive on the global job markets. I support social safety nets like SSI and SSI for the disabled workers. I support Medicare and Medicaid in its current form as a social universal health care program that needs to be expanded to include all Americans. I support common sense legislation to regulate deadly weapons that are owned and obtained by the general public. I believe in a strong federal network or safe transportation including roads and bridges that are safe to travel. I believe in the rights of women to make decisions regarding their own health and reproductive systems. I believe in marriage for ALL consenting adults. I believe that people have the right to go to church, worship their Gods, or to believe in no Gods, without persecution.

Rather than negotiating labels, I'd rather negotiate my beliefs. I tend to find that it is easier to tell someone that I am not a liberal. I then start explaining who I am with the above points and then discuss those individual points. People who claim they are Conservative seem to have a tough time actually arguing the above points. By the end of the discussion many of them seem to believe they way I do. Yet they go back to that odd label they give themselves.

I swear these labels are part of the huge overall us versus them mentality. We need to drop labels and discuss beliefs.

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I'm done being a "liberal" [View all] titaniumsalute Jan 2015 OP
Well said Bagsgroove Jan 2015 #1
In my opinion Rand Paul is certainly not a Liberal. stage left Jan 2015 #3
Of course he's not a liberal Bagsgroove Jan 2015 #20
"liberal" or "conservative" is black/white thinking Mnpaul Jan 2015 #27
Rand Paul's position on women's issue does not make him a liberal JI7 Jan 2015 #7
What Rand Paul's position on women's issues makes him is an asshole but then cstanleytech Jan 2015 #13
Libertarians like Paul offer the kids candy to lure them ErikJ Jan 2015 #9
Fascism? Bagsgroove Jan 2015 #24
Libertarian Platform is all ya need to know. ErikJ Jan 2015 #26
The current Libertarian platform Bagsgroove Jan 2015 #29
Their most interesting one is Open Borders. ErikJ Jan 2015 #30
Rand Paul Explains His Family’s Opposition To Civil Rights Act: ‘It’s About Controlling Property’ muriel_volestrangler Jan 2015 #35
HA!! HA!! HA!! HAAA! HA!! HA! PeaceNikki Jan 2015 #22
To quote EarlG, FRP* greatauntoftriplets Jan 2015 #23
I have definitely moved. I am more of an independent and a socialist now. liberal_at_heart Jan 2015 #2
I think you make a good point. stage left Jan 2015 #4
I think you said what JFK said with a few different words mountain grammy Jan 2015 #5
Thanks for posting this Mnpaul Jan 2015 #28
This message was self-deleted by its author Corruption Inc Jan 2015 #6
The main problem is that... nikto Jan 2015 #8
Here you go. The No Labels Party. Another Third Way type outfit, most likely. blkmusclmachine Jan 2015 #10
I'm a democratic socialist. lovemydog Jan 2015 #11
Yeah, I lean too far left for this forum, so that describes me, too. ladyVet Jan 2015 #15
I'm glad we have democratic socialist voices here. lovemydog Jan 2015 #16
I become more liberal and progressive every day . olddots Jan 2015 #12
I've started describing myself as a leftist. Laffy Kat Jan 2015 #14
Excellent. lovemydog Jan 2015 #17
Very True. Anyone here hear Norman Goldman, the radio show host AZ Progressive Jan 2015 #18
Except that telling them that you are not a liberal when you are is false. Donald Ian Rankin Jan 2015 #19
who's to say? foo_bar Jan 2015 #25
There are hundreds of issues with thousands of solutions. FLPanhandle Jan 2015 #21
Principles is spelled principles. & where will you go? & WINNING comes 1st, beliefs after. n/t UTUSN Jan 2015 #31
3rd way, centrist, moderate... just labels meaning "conservative". I've no problem being a liberal whereisjustice Jan 2015 #32
Okay...you've purged all the "3rd way, centrist, moderate" members of the Party... brooklynite Jan 2015 #33
Democratic Party doesn't need corporate purists. 3rd way/moderates refuses to compromise whereisjustice Jan 2015 #34
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