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16. Why do you believe the MSM at all? You know they hate Occupy

Wed Apr 25, 2012, 05:25 PM

Apr 2012

and that most work actively to demonize it completely.

Please check my videos and links; Occupy is a peaceful movement, despite six months of police brutality and NOTHING being done by the government to stop it. On the contrary; the attacks are organized at the Fed level! They wouldn't hesitate for an instant to use infiltrators and provocateurs to demonize the movement.

Their work seems to have been taking hold, please everyone check the videos and links. The MSM LIE! The 1% cannot make us stay home through sheer brutality so they have to take the next step, which is co-option, which would turn Occupy into moveon's "tea party". In other words, owned and ineffective.

Her words are demonization and destructive to Occupy. Why would you believe her, the police, the MSM, the government?

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Karen Beck of MoveOn says she will call the police on #Occupy if their actions upset her [View all] Fire Walk With Me Apr 2012 OP

Good. ForgoTheConsequence Apr 2012 #1

and do you think those actions were all committed by Occupy? most of us don't niyad Apr 2012 #3

I believe some were, some were not. Ultimately it makes no difference arcane1 Apr 2012 #6

Banksters stole $15 trillion and we're arguing about undercover cops causing damage. Fire Walk With Me Apr 2012 #36

They don't want to know!... DocMac Apr 2012 #95

And the press and MoveOn would like to keep that 1% "violent" protesters (inflitrated and instigated Luminous Animal Apr 2012 #48

they always want to associate protest & violence, so that the population will. be too afraid HiPointDem Apr 2012 #140

We are a peaceful movement being demonized by the MSM and the 1%. Fire Walk With Me Apr 2012 #5

+1000 SammyWinstonJack Apr 2012 #9

It is the old "good protester, bad protester" lie that is being repeated here. U4ikLefty Apr 2012 #127

No, the Occupy Movement is against violence, and all she has done is confirm the suspicions sabrina 1 Apr 2012 #28

MoveOn wanted to usurp Occupy, but they've been unsuccessful. girl gone mad Apr 2012 #41

They saw it as a threat to their financial situation. They were right. People had left Move-on sabrina 1 Apr 2012 #45

wondering what OWS has accomplished pasto76 Apr 2012 #60

Grandpa! Is that you? Luminous Animal Apr 2012 #65

Your post makes no sense to me. Supported WHAT actions? sabrina 1 Apr 2012 #66

Well, if nothing else JoeyT Apr 2012 #91

Oh jeez, not that old "Occupy has accomplished nothing" bullshit again. Zalatix Apr 2012 #92

Yeah OWS spread the 99% meme. limpyhobbler Apr 2012 #130

"This "we have no leader" is the biggest problem." Leftist Agitator Apr 2012 #103

Leaderless resistance - has it's advantages and disadvantages. limpyhobbler Apr 2012 #131

Easy: Eric Cantor now makes speeches about income inequality Recursion Apr 2012 #108

Hey, your avatar, interesting, black bloc perhaps? Your comments sound a wee bit fishy. Hmmm.. crunch60 Apr 2012 #135

What you said. +1 eom Purveyor Apr 2012 #110

"if anyone wants to fight or get really aggressive or start breaking things"... arcane1 Apr 2012 #2

Who says they weren't police? Look at the number of lies coming out of Oakland Fire Walk With Me Apr 2012 #7

Exactly, it doesn't matter if they're police or not, Karen Beck's statement still stands arcane1 Apr 2012 #10

Yes, but remembering what police have done to protesters in Oakland, Fire Walk With Me Apr 2012 #14

I think we're actually in agreement here arcane1 Apr 2012 #26

Gotcha, agreed! Fire Walk With Me Apr 2012 #44

"We have been amazingly peaceful considering what has been thrown at us! " arcane1 Apr 2012 #51

The cops will stand right there while "black bloc" commit vandalism and do nothing... Luminous Animal Apr 2012 #57

No, her statement is a lie. But not surprising considering it's Move-on. It's just that they sabrina 1 Apr 2012 #29

Everything which touches Occupy seems to get challenged Fire Walk With Me Apr 2012 #46

Yes, that's true. People have been concerned about Move-on for quite a while, even before sabrina 1 Apr 2012 #58

I don't understand your reasoning nobodyspecial Apr 2012 #12

Yeah, YOU go down to your local precinct and ask to file a police report: Fire Walk With Me Apr 2012 #15

I didn't say file. I said request records. nobodyspecial Apr 2012 #21

Some awesome videos there thanks...n/t zeemike Apr 2012 #24

Yes, it's time to MoveOn from the stolen election of 2000 Autumn Apr 2012 #4

Keep being who you are. MuseRider Apr 2012 #8

Thank you. Fire Walk With Me Apr 2012 #18

It has always been like that. MuseRider Apr 2012 #79

Thank you so very much! You are valued! Fire Walk With Me Apr 2012 #86

Been there. MuseRider Apr 2012 #102

One more little thing to add from the outside looking in. MuseRider Apr 2012 #107

Ditto! lonestarnot Apr 2012 #104

And so it beguines....or rather continues zeemike Apr 2012 #11

So, violence and property destruction are OK with you? nobodyspecial Apr 2012 #13

Why do you believe the MSM at all? You know they hate Occupy Fire Walk With Me Apr 2012 #16

I asked a question. You did not answer it nobodyspecial Apr 2012 #23

Thank you for your "concern". Check this: Fire Walk With Me Apr 2012 #34

I'm against cops posing as protesters and provoking violence as well nobodyspecial Apr 2012 #50

We'll get right on that while we try to avoid the police attacking us. Luminous Animal Apr 2012 #59

You "suggestion" was been implemented long before you mentioned it. U4ikLefty Apr 2012 #129

Did I say that? zeemike Apr 2012 #27

I honestly cannot follow what you are saying. Fire Walk With Me Apr 2012 #31

I posted that to nobodyspecial. zeemike Apr 2012 #38

Heh...gotcha. :) Fire Walk With Me Apr 2012 #42

Why are you asking that question? Do you know ANYTHING about OWS or are you just sabrina 1 Apr 2012 #30

The SF Chronicle in January reported that police were attacked with rocks and bricks Luminous Animal Apr 2012 #56

no dude, the people on the street divided themselves pasto76 Apr 2012 #61

Yep it is always your own fault. zeemike Apr 2012 #64

Yo dude, you need the updated anti-OWS script. The one you are working off of is sooo last November. Luminous Animal Apr 2012 #67

you are exactly right, divide and conquer. That is their goal. Joseph Goebells, Reich Minister of crunch60 Apr 2012 #134

Whatever. MoveOn is so last decade. qb Apr 2012 #17

the article says she's part of Occupy cali Apr 2012 #19

moveon.org are not part of Occupy, not one whit. Fire Walk With Me Apr 2012 #22

She is not part of Occupy. People who push MSM lies, are not part of OWS. sabrina 1 Apr 2012 #33

THIS is what police do to peaceful, unarmed protesters. Warning, graphic! Fire Walk With Me Apr 2012 #20

I support and appreciate Occupy, but notice that his fear is "shaping policy" rhett o rick Apr 2012 #47

Why would potential allies not simply seek out or join Occupy? Fire Walk With Me Apr 2012 #49

There are millions that wont be Occupy that want a better America. rhett o rick Apr 2012 #84

Everyone contributes in different ways. n/t Zalatix Apr 2012 #89

Occupy is a movement U4ikLefty Apr 2012 #96

Occupy is a movement that is part of a larger movement that started before Occupy. rhett o rick Apr 2012 #106

You say "Be suspicious of those that would turn us against each other" starroute Apr 2012 #112

I honestly dont know. I hope you are not basing that on the article ref in the OP. rhett o rick Apr 2012 #115

Even if you disapprove of the black bloc, calling the cops on them is not the answer starroute Apr 2012 #122

The larger movement that started before Occupy? U4ikLefty Apr 2012 #125

Well I wish you the best of luck. nm rhett o rick Apr 2012 #126

Join us. U4ikLefty Apr 2012 #128

I dont doubt you one minute, but we all cannot be Occupy. Please respect us that are fighting rhett o rick Apr 2012 #138

Cannot and will not are two different things. U4ikLefty Apr 2012 #139

What a terrible spokes person. EFerrari Apr 2012 #25

Karen is not an Occupyer. She is a MoveOn 99% Spring spokesperson. Luminous Animal Apr 2012 #40

She doesn't sound like any Occupyer I've ever heard. :) EFerrari Apr 2012 #62

In the article referenced she doesnt claim to be an Occurier. The authors of the article rhett o rick Apr 2012 #116

Ha! :) Anyone with a brain, living in Oakland and watching what has happened Fire Walk With Me Apr 2012 #52

And all of this distracts from the main truth: Banksters stole over $15 trillion Fire Walk With Me Apr 2012 #32

Did she have anything to say about the brutal violence of the Police? Move-on is so Mainstream sabrina 1 Apr 2012 #37

Exactly! She's completely inverted! Fire Walk With Me Apr 2012 #54

I noticed this disgusting characterization from the SF Gate article: Luminous Animal Apr 2012 #35

Yep! "OWS protesting = violence! moveon protesting = flowers and rainbows!" Fire Walk With Me Apr 2012 #39

And this: "where tear-gas-filled clashes between police and protesters" Luminous Animal Apr 2012 #43

(high-five) Fire Walk With Me Apr 2012 #53

So OWS is against bridges now? randome Apr 2012 #71

It's in solidarity with the 19 unions who work the bridge, ferry and buses and with those who have Luminous Animal Apr 2012 #74

"Help!!!... unionworks Apr 2012 #55

MoveOn lost me a long time ago varelse Apr 2012 #63

Can OWS Stand It's Ground Against the Police or MoveOn? solarman350 Apr 2012 #68

Can't always be 100% sure who is a plant. Don't start a witch hunt. nt limpyhobbler Apr 2012 #132

This is so Orwellian, it makes my blood run cold starroute Apr 2012 #69

Fantastic post! Luminous Animal Apr 2012 #72

Carolyn Jones is an idiot but Fagan isn't. EFerrari Apr 2012 #73

That should be an OP. sabrina 1 Apr 2012 #75

Brilliant. Fire Walk With Me Apr 2012 #85

By all means, go ahead and quote me starroute Apr 2012 #88

"homeland security" HAS been busy on Facebook: Fire Walk With Me Apr 2012 #87

And there's this... starroute Apr 2012 #90

Yep, dang... Fire Walk With Me Apr 2012 #94

A neighbor got drunk at an open house EmeraldCityGrl Apr 2012 #117

The article referenced doesnt say that moveon claims to be Occupy. rhett o rick Apr 2012 #101

You might be right in blaming the reporters -- but I'm not convinced starroute Apr 2012 #109

MoveOn -or rather the reporters who wrote this story- don't need to split Occupy. randome Apr 2012 #111

Ridiculous and unsupported. n/t EFerrari Apr 2012 #113

Anyone who wants to support Occupy and help them achieve their goals is welcomed.. girl gone mad Apr 2012 #114

And anyone who wants to help some other organization... randome Apr 2012 #118

Please be critical of what you read. People want to manipulate us. rhett o rick Apr 2012 #120

You would be right if Beck came out of the Occupy movement -- but she doesn't starroute Apr 2012 #124

This article is horribly written...or really well written and deliberately misleading. limpyhobbler Apr 2012 #133

I totally agree. What a great story to say Occupy has split into clashing factions. rhett o rick Apr 2012 #137

Move-On is a tool of the DLC, fuck them. Odin2005 Apr 2012 #70

I keep hearing this but yet to see any evidence. rhett o rick Apr 2012 #119

Unfortunately deaniac21 Apr 2012 #76

Haven't been keeping up, have you? sabrina 1 Apr 2012 #78

Yes. That is why there is activity every day (organizational meetings, teach-ins) Luminous Animal Apr 2012 #80

well, good for you, ms beck. here, have a cookie... KG Apr 2012 #77

She's out. Pushing media portrayals. mmonk Apr 2012 #81

Maybe Oakland can borrow You Know Who's private army. Rex Apr 2012 #82

I'm sure the right has agents provocateur in the Occupy movement. The faster the violent ones can be applegrove Apr 2012 #83

Thank you for this donheld Apr 2012 #93

MoveOn is even more pathetic than I thought. Marr Apr 2012 #97

Thanks for putting this together. K&R. n/t Egalitarian Thug Apr 2012 #98

Shame on Beck. Mc Mike Apr 2012 #99

Reading some of this makes me think that we are already in a revolution lunatica Apr 2012 #100

So is she related to Glen? lonestarnot Apr 2012 #105

Good for her! LiberalLovinLug Apr 2012 #121

Paraphrased read: "We will have a nice peaceful barbecue, and sing Kumabaya loudly, in the hope Zorra Apr 2012 #123

I understand the concern but is it anything to get worked up about. limpyhobbler Apr 2012 #136