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5. What do you think she will change? I see income inequality as the number 1 threat

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Mon Jan 19, 2015, 12:12 PM

Jan 2015

to our country. What do YOU think Hillary will do to change that? Convince me to vote for her.

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I support Hillary because she can bring change to our country [View all] Harmony Blue Jan 2015 OP

Hillary does love change. LawDeeDah Jan 2015 #1

And? RoverSuswade Jan 2015 #2

Yep, Wall Street LOVE$ her. Citigroup: "I think Hillary would be a great president." RiverLover Jan 2015 #13

85% of Democrats love her....Left Leaning Independents not so much! VanillaRhapsody Jan 2015 #52

Not everyone who opposes HRC is a "Left-Leaning Independent" Ken Burch Jan 2015 #158

Actually, that poll just said 85% wanted to see her run...not that they "loved her". n/t. Ken Burch Jan 2015 #166

85% agreed that she should run - that will include many who do not "love" her karynnj Jan 2015 #233

No, no! cloudbase Jan 2015 #46

Compassionate Corporatism? Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2015 #3

What changes? mmonk Jan 2015 #4

You beat me to that question monk... MrMickeysMom Jan 2015 #18

Agreed. Change must mean something mmonk Jan 2015 #25

Change the curtains in the oval office. pa28 Jan 2015 #134

What do you think she will change? I see income inequality as the number 1 threat Autumn Jan 2015 #5

She might start charging less for her speeches GummyBearz Jan 2015 #276

Be careful what you ask for. What kind of changes? Bad ones? Like ending Glass Steagall? NAFTA? TheNutcracker Jan 2015 #6

she'll double down on bill's welfare 'reform' and end social security. ND-Dem Jan 2015 #151

I think she will do just fine if elected and will be more to the left then some here think. hrmjustin Jan 2015 #7

Don't question. earthside Jan 2015 #17

And where in my post did I say don't question? hrmjustin Jan 2015 #20

*Mic drop* eom BlueCaliDem Jan 2015 #22

How so? procon Jan 2015 #30

I think she understands where the party is. hrmjustin Jan 2015 #42

And the average American understands where she's been all her life. merrily Jan 2015 #51

And according to todays polls they want her to be president. hrmjustin Jan 2015 #53

Also according to 2007 polls. According to 2011 polls, even 2012, Obama could not beat merrily Jan 2015 #56

i think the people of our party want to win and want to go with a winner. hrmjustin Jan 2015 #60

Hillary is a winner? She had a 30 point lead in 2008 and blew it. Just like Martha Coakley.* merrily Jan 2015 #64

2016 is not 2008. hrmjustin Jan 2015 #70

But Hillary is still Hillary. (Her book tour was not in 2008, either.) merrily Jan 2015 #71

And the public wants her as president. hrmjustin Jan 2015 #75

You have now gone in complete circle. That says quite a lot. merrily Jan 2015 #77

Well if my responses bother you or bore you i am sorry. hrmjustin Jan 2015 #78

No, you are not. But my comment about your going full circle had nothing to do with merrily Jan 2015 #80

None of our possible candidates have shown that they can win imo. hrmjustin Jan 2015 #81

None of our possible candidates but Hillary have proven they can lose, either. merrily Jan 2015 #82

Well if they want to beat her they need to prove themselves. hrmjustin Jan 2015 #83

3rd time resting your argument on meaningless poll results. merrily Jan 2015 #87

I do live with the war results. I buried a cousin. hrmjustin Jan 2015 #90

I didn't tell you (or anyone) to live with the war results and you know it. merrily Jan 2015 #93

Use a tragedy! Goodnight and goodbye! hrmjustin Jan 2015 #94

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Jan 2015 #99

You think it is funny? hrmjustin Jan 2015 #100

well DonCoquixote Jan 2015 #108

I am sorry I don't have your wit or links. hrmjustin Jan 2015 #109

and indeed DonCoquixote Jan 2015 #111

She tied the popular vote in the primary so she was no failure. hrmjustin Jan 2015 #113

The popular vote is irrelevant in the Presidential, both the primary and the general. No partial merrily Jan 2015 #121

I am sorry but I am not going to continue with you anymore. hrmjustin Jan 2015 #122

Fine with me. That doesn't mean I can't post to point out fallacies in your posts, though. merrily Jan 2015 #125

You can do what you like, it is a free country. hrmjustin Jan 2015 #127

Yes, I know. Hence, my pointing out the fallacies in your prior post. merrily Jan 2015 #128

lol. hrmjustin Jan 2015 #129

I do heartily applaud your keeping your sense of humor after your claim was refuted so soundly. merrily Jan 2015 #130

Refuted i think not. All you are interested in doing is trashing Hillary and I want no part of it. hrmjustin Jan 2015 #131

Then you don't know when you've been refuted or know the difference between facts and trashing. merrily Jan 2015 #132

I may not be the brightest bulb here but i can see what you are doing. hrmjustin Jan 2015 #133

Refusing to see something for what it is doesn't mean you are not bright. merrily Jan 2015 #136

I think they get a bonus if they're the last poster in an exchange like this. Marr Jan 2015 #189

Some times, I keep going as long as they do, just to see how long they last. merrily Jan 2015 #191

That is low. implying I am a paid poster is low. hrmjustin Jan 2015 #198

Did no such thing. I specifically said I didn't know who was or was not a paid poster. merrily Jan 2015 #202

That bull! You might not have used my name but you did imply it. hrmjustin Jan 2015 #204

You're wrong and fact free. merrily Jan 2015 #208

You can try to talk yourself out of it but you still did it. hrmjustin Jan 2015 #211

Yes, you should know what I mean much better than I do. merrily Jan 2015 #213

You did what you did and it was clear. Goodbye! hrmjustin Jan 2015 #214

Thats ridiculous. your friend responded to me. hrmjustin Jan 2015 #197

"Your friend." LOL. merrily Jan 2015 #203

Well then try adding then. hrmjustin Jan 2015 #205

um.... merrily Jan 2015 #209

Never before spring 2008, when Hillary was not doing as well in the primaries as she should have, karynnj Jan 2015 #234

Most hillary supporter took the loss well. hrmjustin Jan 2015 #235

I agree - and it was a tough loss especially as it was close karynnj Jan 2015 #237

Well they ended up looking a bit ridiculous. hrmjustin Jan 2015 #238

DUers who admit to knowing what goes on at the DNC level and DUers merrily Jan 2015 #137

She started with a lead of about 15 points and then built it up. At its height it was averaging 25 StevieM Jan 2015 #149

"Hillary holds 30 point lead." merrily Jan 2015 #150

That was one poll. Her average lead, at its height, was more like 25 points. And I don't think she StevieM Jan 2015 #168

Is blowing a lead of 25, average, really very different from blowing a lead that got as high as 30? merrily Jan 2015 #169

To add to your comments, which I agree with, she had the Shaheen machine behind her karynnj Jan 2015 #236

Thanks. I had forgotten "You're nice enough" was pre NH vote. Sexism merrily Jan 2015 #246

If that poll wasn't bullshit, she'd be president *now*. Marr Jan 2015 #187

You are entitled to that belief but the party does not share it. hrmjustin Jan 2015 #201

You speak for the party now? merrily Jan 2015 #210

The polling is clear that the psrty wants her. hrmjustin Jan 2015 #212

Like 2008? No, it isn't clear, per all the posts about that on this thread from last night. merrily Jan 2015 #217

I thought you said you were not going to respond to me. hrmjustin Jan 2015 #219

Nope. That was you last night. 5 times, IIRC. I said I was not going to merrily Jan 2015 #220

Well i can't say it has been a pleasure but it has been informative. hrmjustin Jan 2015 #222

Doubt that it's been informative. Could have been. merrily Jan 2015 #224

Oh it was. hrmjustin Jan 2015 #225

"The party"? Marr Jan 2015 #253

My stuffed animals are actually alive. 5 cats. hrmjustin Jan 2015 #254

Okay. /nt Marr Jan 2015 #255

as left as bill. iow, not so much from the middle class goldwater girl. ND-Dem Jan 2015 #152

If she silently backed all of Bill's right-wing shit then, she can't be progressive now. n/t. Ken Burch Jan 2015 #160

She'll say whatever she thinks she needs to say to get elected but her latest campaign rhetoric, merrily Jan 2015 #175

She was first lady. The first lady does not oppose their husbands policies publicly. hrmjustin Jan 2015 #199

She was not First Lady after 2000. If she still can't oppose his policies publicly, merrily Jan 2015 #206

She hasn't even questioned them retroactively. Ken Burch Jan 2015 #270

Yeah right. Fearless Jan 2015 #8

One likely change under HRC is the US will go boots in first into the Middle East. leveymg Jan 2015 #9

Back to war? Even more "Free Trade"? Exactly what change do you expect? Motown_Johnny Jan 2015 #10

Wait. "Back to war?" We stopped? merrily Jan 2015 #218

Change... tridim Jan 2015 #11

Would you rather have the real thing, then? Jebbie Bush is running. BlueCaliDem Jan 2015 #23

Then, at least, run on that - "Not as bad as Jeb" - and don't insult us with the hopey changey djean111 Jan 2015 #26

Answer the question...would you rather have a Jebbie Bush then? BlueCaliDem Jan 2015 #31

You are asking that question as if it is a lock that Jeb or Hillary will be my only choices. djean111 Jan 2015 #35

Sorry to have to tell you, but at this point, those ARE our only choices. BlueCaliDem Jan 2015 #39

Are you saying that the TARP legislation was re-written after Obama took office? merrily Jan 2015 #164

Since the Treasury falls under the Executive Branch, they have flexibility how to oversee it. BlueCaliDem Jan 2015 #247

"With a Democratic Congress they were able to change how TARP was used." Again, are you saying that merrily Jan 2015 #248

I'm not as interested in TARP or how it changed when Obama took office. BlueCaliDem Jan 2015 #250

Thanks. I am curious, so, as I said, I will look into it more. As far as how much the Treasury made merrily Jan 2015 #252

Wikipedia has a detailed timeline (I can't vouch for its accuracy) so you might want to start there. BlueCaliDem Jan 2015 #258

Yes, of course I know about and remember Dodd Frank, but that is not numerous bills. merrily Jan 2015 #262

Okay. Now it feels as if you're nitpicking. I've given you links to a couple of sites BlueCaliDem Jan 2015 #266

Sorry you feel that way. I am not dismissing, just saying I am not ready to look into it today and merrily Jan 2015 #267

P.S. yes, I remembered correctly, "I am just a Bill," LOL! merrily Jan 2015 #263

P.S. At this point we have no idea what our choices will be. merrily Jan 2015 #167

Hillary is not the only Democrat in America. merrily Jan 2015 #176

Never claimed she was. But she IS the strongest, according to all the polls. BlueCaliDem Jan 2015 #257

The polls don't mean much. merrily Jan 2015 #260

At this point, the polls are telling a-political American voters a great deal. BlueCaliDem Jan 2015 #264

+100. it's all of a piece anyway: each lousy prez sets up the ground for the next one to ND-Dem Jan 2015 #155

Yes, that is exactly what those of us to the left of Corporate Hillary want -- Jeb LondonReign2 Jan 2015 #27

No, we don't want him. But IMO, Hillary can't beat him. And, IMO, even merrily Jan 2015 #101

I'll vote for her Bettie Jan 2015 #29

"More of the same" would depend on what Congress we help get her in 2016 should she win the nom. BlueCaliDem Jan 2015 #34

The problem with congress Bettie Jan 2015 #45

And a Dem President is the head of the Dem Party. The meme that the head of the Party has no sway merrily Jan 2015 #181

A Dem president can STOP terrible things from happening Bettie Jan 2015 #188

A Dem President leads his party and does have influence over them, merrily Jan 2015 #228

Why take a loyalty oath before she even announces, when she is not your favorite? merrily Jan 2015 #180

Oops, normally, I put the words "if she's the nominee" in these statements Bettie Jan 2015 #190

Even with that addition, my post holds. merrily Jan 2015 #195

Any Democrat can beat Mitt and Jeb. tridim Jan 2015 #40

Really? That's not what the latest CBS poll shows among Dems and Indies. BlueCaliDem Jan 2015 #41

That poll doesn't show head-to-head results, though. Ken Burch Jan 2015 #165

In every single head-to-head polls, SoS Clinton wins from all potetial candidates, both Republican BlueCaliDem Jan 2015 #244

Polls this far out are unreliable. merrily Jan 2015 #177

Yes. That's why I wrote that polls are snapshots in time. But we can't deny that each and every poll BlueCaliDem Jan 2015 #259

Yes, you can rightly deny all polls this far out, or at least not conclude they must be right or merrily Jan 2015 #261

Any Democrat should be able to beat Mitt and Jeb, if he or she really wants to. merrily Jan 2015 #182

Hillary will not beat Jeb. merrily Jan 2015 #54

IF that's true, we're screwed. eom BlueCaliDem Jan 2015 #58

Only if we keep acting as though Hillary is the only Dem out of maybe 75 million. merrily Jan 2015 #59

Do you have a better candidate in mind? Thinkingabout Jan 2015 #67

Irrelevant. There are good candidates. Hillary is not one of them. merrily Jan 2015 #69

Sure she is, it us relevent unless you are pulling for a GOP candidate. Thinkingabout Jan 2015 #76

Bullshit. My naming names or not is irrelevant to whether Democrats who can win exist and merrily Jan 2015 #84

Say whatever you like it only adds character to some, it does not change me in Thinkingabout Jan 2015 #88

Also bullshit. I've never used garbage from FOX. Don't watch it. merrily Jan 2015 #91

Yep, I' m right. Thinkingabout Jan 2015 #95

No, but that's never stopped you before and I don't expect it to stop you now or in the future. merrily Jan 2015 #96

Proving I am right huh Thinkingabout Jan 2015 #98

Yes, telling you you're wrong proves you're right. Just as "good" as your "logic" upthread. merrily Jan 2015 #104

Expect the next reply to be "I know you are, but what am I?". nt Guy Whitey Corngood Jan 2015 #118

Well, that would at least be cute merrily Jan 2015 #141

You're right. I set my expectations too high. Guy Whitey Corngood Jan 2015 #223

I understand. merrily Jan 2015 #226

NOPE. Thinkingabout Jan 2015 #148

says the person who used a right wing website to support her social security misstatements ND-Dem Jan 2015 #157

To be perfectly fair, he or she also used the guests on the Judge Judy show to support his fact free merrily Jan 2015 #178

Now this is where DonCoquixote Jan 2015 #110

As much as I admire and would love Senator Warren as president, she will lose. BlueCaliDem Jan 2015 #143

A sensible one. Thinkingabout Jan 2015 #147

Thank you, Thinkingabout. eom BlueCaliDem Jan 2015 #242

an analysis DonCoquixote Jan 2015 #172

Thank you for your analysis, although I disagree with it. eom BlueCaliDem Jan 2015 #243

In your opinion, Warren will lose. In my opinon, Hillary will lose. Let's hope someone else runs. merrily Jan 2015 #183

Well, I've been wrong plenty of times, so who knows? Maybe you'll get it right again. BlueCaliDem Jan 2015 #241

Or, I'll be wrong the second time. merrily Jan 2015 #268

...... snappyturtle Jan 2015 #12

Other countries, too! Man from Pickens Jan 2015 #14

Yep, even more American jobs would be outsourced. RiverLover Jan 2015 #15

What does that even mean to you? Change what? tkmorris Jan 2015 #16

What are some of the changes that you anticipate MannyGoldstein Jan 2015 #19

This message was self-deleted by its author L0oniX Jan 2015 #66

Who'll, no doubt, immediately receive huge contracts from TV networks MannyGoldstein Jan 2015 #68

A TV series in the making. L0oniX Jan 2015 #72

When have you ever made a similar comment about a male candidate? pnwmom Jan 2015 #85

It wasn't intended to be what you think but I'm sure you didn't struggle to take it that way. L0oniX Jan 2015 #89

Bias is often unintended and subconscious. n/t pnwmom Jan 2015 #92

I know you are for Hillary ...and you know I am not ...which has nothing to do with... L0oniX Jan 2015 #102

Be ready to be accused of sexism many more times. merrily Jan 2015 #107

Do you really not understand the sexism in the comment about Hillary's grandchildren? pnwmom Jan 2015 #119

Don't put words in my post. If you don't want to reply to what I actually posted, merrily Jan 2015 #123

I think we know what this is about and it's not sexism. It's Hillary supporters using sexism... L0oniX Jan 2015 #249

You are wrong. I am for whomever is chosen as the candidate in the primaries. pnwmom Jan 2015 #117

Anyone you hope will oppose Hillary in the primaries? merrily Jan 2015 #135

I'm still neutral, as I was the last time when I liked all three main candidates. pnwmom Jan 2015 #144

I plan to remain neutral until at least the filing deadline, the merrily Jan 2015 #227

Is there any candidate yet? n/t L0oniX Jan 2015 #105

Forget her words. I am sure she will adapt them to the current populist mood, just as Mitt has. merrily Jan 2015 #116

yeah, americans hate populism. hate hate hate. they like shit wages, no time off, and sending ND-Dem Jan 2015 #159

Clearly, you are not a pragmatic neoliberal who merrily Jan 2015 #163

This message was self-deleted by its author tkmorris Jan 2015 #21

Maybe she SHOULD be the catalyst for change Bettie Jan 2015 #24

Is that you, Chelsea? nationalize the fed Jan 2015 #28

I like stuff n/t whatchamacallit Jan 2015 #32

Like changing Bush 'n' Cheney into prison garb? Octafish Jan 2015 #33

+1 L0oniX Jan 2015 #73

Well, no Dem is going to do that. Them sleeping dogs gonna continue to be left to lie. merrily Jan 2015 #138

The changes she and her husband and other DINOS brought with H-1B expansion brought BAD change... cascadiance Jan 2015 #36

There is one thing she can change, her accent: LawDeeDah Jan 2015 #48

I don't think you can automatically call it a "fake" Southern accent Art_from_Ark Jan 2015 #120

If she employs the accent highly selectively in public, you can call it a put on accent, even if her merrily Jan 2015 #179

I employ an accent selectively in public Art_from_Ark Jan 2015 #193

None of what you said is inconsistent with my post. merrily Jan 2015 #196

I have not heard Hillary with this particularly strong accent before. LawDeeDah Jan 2015 #231

I haven't lived in the South for over 30 years. I can be with my family members down there for Autumn Jan 2015 #229

+100 ND-Dem Jan 2015 #161

Change such as? AgingAmerican Jan 2015 #37

Change like the six years she was on Walmart's Board of Directors, and failed closeupready Jan 2015 #38

and maybe some hope, too! frylock Jan 2015 #43

I can't tell if this is serious or sarcastic madville Jan 2015 #44

Either way it's a hit and run TBF Jan 2015 #49

Hillary has the best chance of beating Jeb Bush Harmony Blue Jan 2015 #221

Doesn't matter if neo-lib policies TBF Jan 2015 #232

She'll bring the status quo to our country JonLP24 Jan 2015 #47

I oppose her for much the same reason. hughee99 Jan 2015 #50

"...it should be Hillary Clinton" Says WHO? cherokeeprogressive Jan 2015 #55

What change are you speaking of? zappaman Jan 2015 #57

What change? Even more of 1985 policies? merrily Jan 2015 #61

LMFAO L0oniX Jan 2015 #62

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Jan 2015 #63

Me, too. Also, I note that the OP seems to have lost interest in this thread. merrily Jan 2015 #65

Damn, I thought I had accidently gotten onto a RW site and checked and I Thinkingabout Jan 2015 #74

Don't worry, when Warren supports Clinton she'll join the bunch under the bus. freshwest Jan 2015 #106

Yep you are probably right, it is funny when sone refer to 1985, was this during the years Thinkingabout Jan 2015 #115

An amazing amount of those labeled as *real Democrats* were GOP then. freshwest Jan 2015 #124

Warren is very good in her field of expertise, I just don't know where she will go when action just Thinkingabout Jan 2015 #145

Reagan? Hillary and Obama both put him on their respective list of 10 Best US Presidents ever. 1985 merrily Jan 2015 #186

Remember that she is going to win and some here just hate that. hrmjustin Jan 2015 #126

I think perhaps it for the lack of a candidate to really get behind. Thinkingabout Jan 2015 #146

I think they need to get over it. hrmjustin Jan 2015 #207

Is this satire? onecaliberal Jan 2015 #79

having been so dead broke, I suppose change is all she has! LawDeeDah Jan 2015 #86

That was funny. Kudos. merrily Jan 2015 #185

Hit n' run post. Tell us the changes. nt benz380 Jan 2015 #97

but it should be Hillary Clinton to become the catalyst of change in our country. DonCoquixote Jan 2015 #103

I agree. Just a technicality, but merrily Jan 2015 #140

Indeed DonCoquixote Jan 2015 #171

I did not read the wiki article to which I linked you that way. merrily Jan 2015 #174

This message was self-deleted by its author DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2015 #277

clinton = more of the same, the last 30 years' same ND-Dem Jan 2015 #162

LOL, I have no idea if this is a serious post. Nt Logical Jan 2015 #112

Click bait. nt benz380 Jan 2015 #114

Well, the OP apparently lost in interest in the thread. That doesn't mean the replies are all merrily Jan 2015 #139

This message was self-deleted by its author AtomicKitten Jan 2015 #142

"7" recs in 15 hours? That ought to tell you something... eom Purveyor Jan 2015 #153

She will do a fine job as President of the US, she has lots of experience in dealing with goverments Thinkingabout Jan 2015 #154

How can a militarist and a die-hard free trade supporter bring change? n/t. Ken Burch Jan 2015 #156

^^^^^^^^THIS FTW! DonCoquixote Jan 2015 #173

She bores a lot of people's asses off. saltpoint Jan 2015 #170

Clinton would have a similarly transitory role. joshcryer Jan 2015 #184

There is no way that eight years of centrist Gore would have led to an actually progressive Obama Ken Burch Jan 2015 #271

You give Bush a massive pass. joshcryer Jan 2015 #272

No I don't. Bush was horrible. Ken Burch Jan 2015 #275

I'll reluctantly support Clinton if she is the nominee but I don't expect Warren Stupidity Jan 2015 #192

She going to force Walmart to pay a liveable wage? B Calm Jan 2015 #194

Any indication she tried? How about resigning from the board in protest? merrily Jan 2015 #216

I would vote for Hillary in the general, but I don't see her as an agent of change. Vinca Jan 2015 #200

she could but she won't. KG Jan 2015 #215

LMAO! Stellar Jan 2015 #230

So you have no response at all as to how Hillary can bring change to our country? Autumn Jan 2015 #239

Who would she have in her cabinet, especially in Finance and Defense? Would she remove all sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #240

Honest question: Has Hillary ever brought change to anything? Tatiana Jan 2015 #245

Her voice once changed into a southern drawl. n/t benz380 Jan 2015 #251

That's the second hearty laugh I've had reading this thread. Thanks. merrily Jan 2015 #269

Hillary has cosponsored several bills to increase the minimum wage and finally got it up to Thinkingabout Jan 2015 #256

Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2015 #265

change is one thing... wildbilln864 Jan 2015 #273

They must be minting deludinoids... sendero Jan 2015 #274