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14. Here are some of the things his cheerleaders don't want you to see:
Mon Jan 19, 2015, 09:53 PM
Jan 2015
Pope Francis on gay rights: His 5 worst quotes

The new pontiff is being hailed as a fresh choice, but there's nothing new about his opposition to gay rights


Pope Francis has been praised for his humility (he picks up his own luggage!), his acceptance of other faiths (he won’t insult the Prophet Mohammed in public addresses!) and his “precedent shattering” name choice (more humility!).

But the pontiff who is being hailed as a “new direction” for the Catholic Church is the same-old brand of theological conservative who opposes the ordination of women, abortion and the fundamental rights of gays and lesbians.

In fact, then-Cardinal Jose Bergoglio was a major force against the 2010 move to legalize same-sex marriage in his native Argentina. Though he ultimately failed, Bergoglio used the full weight of the church to crush the measure.

Here, a collection of his very worst quotes on the issue.

1. A Senate vote on gay marriage is a destructive pretension against the plan of God

From a letter to the Carmelite Sisters of Buenos Aires on the perils of marriage equality:

“Let’s not be naïve, we’re not talking about a simple political battle; it is a destructive pretension against the plan of God. We are not talking about a mere bill, but rather a machination of the Father of Lies that seeks to confuse and deceive the children of God.”

2. Gay marriage will destroy the family

More from the same letter to the four monasteries of Argentina:

“The Argentine people will face a situation whose outcome can seriously harm the family… At stake is the identity and survival of the family: father, mother and children.

3. Gay parenting is a rejection of God’s law engraved in our hearts

Again:

“At stake are the lives of many children who will be discriminated against in advance, and deprived of their human development given by a father and a mother and willed by God. At stake is the total rejection of God’s law engraved in our hearts.”

4. The political struggle against marriage equality is war

And finally:

“The bill will be discussed in the Senate after July 13. Look at San Jose, Maria, Child and ask them [to] fervently defend Argentina’s family at this time. [Be reminded] what God told his people in a time of great anguish: ‘This war is not yours but God’s.’ May they succor, defend and join God in this war.”

5. Gay adoption is discrimination against children

According to the National Catholic Reporter, Francis called gay adoption a form of “discrimination against children.” A comment that resulted in a public rebuke from Argentine President Cristina Fernández de Kirchner, who said that Francis’ remarks suggested “medieval times and the Inquisition.”

http://www.salon.com/2013/03/14/pope_francis_on_gay_rights_his_5_worst_quotes/



Cardinal Bergoglio Hits Out at Same-Sex Marriage

A Jesuit cardinal has become the latest Church leader to speak out forcefully against a government’s push towards same-sex marriage, and has called on his nation’s contemplatives to pray fervently to prevent such laws.

According to an article in tomorrow’s L’Osservatore Romano, Cardinal Jorge Mario Bergoglio, the Archbishop of Buenos Aires and Primate of Argentina, has said that if a proposed bill giving same-sex couples the opportunity to marry and adopt children should be approved, it will “seriously damage the family.”

He made the statement in a letter addressed to each of the four monasteries in Argentina, asking the contemplatives to pray “fervently” that legislators be strengthened to do the right thing.

He wrote: “In the coming weeks, the Argentine people will face a situation whose outcome can seriously harm the family…At stake is the identity and survival of the family: father, mother and children. At stake are the lives of many children who will be discriminated against in advance, and deprived of their human development given by a father and a mother and willed by God. At stake is the total rejection of God’s law engraved in our hearts.”

Cardinal Bergoglio continued: “Let us not be naive: this is not simply a political struggle, but it is an attempt to destroy God’s plan. It is not just a bill (a mere instrument) but a ‘move’ of the father of lies who seeks to confuse and deceive the children of God.”

The cardinal also noted that “today the country, in this particular situation, needs the special assistance of the Holy Spirit to bring the light of truth on to the darkness of error, it need this advocate to defend us from being enchanted by many fallacies that are tried at all costs to justify this bill and to confuse and deceive the people of good will.”

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Cardinal Bergoglio said the bill will be discussed in the Senate after July 13. “We look to Saint Joseph, Mary and the Child Jesus and ask that they fervently defend the family in Argentina at this particular time,” he said. “We remember what God said to his people in a moment of great anguish: ‘This war is not yours, but God’s’: defend us, then, in this war of God.”

http://www.ncregister.com/blog/edward-pentin/cardinal_bergoglio_hits_out_at_same-sex_marriage



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they cant do both? belzabubba333 Jan 2015 #1
What? cleanhippie Jan 2015 #5
You already knew what the church stood for I'm sure. upaloopa Jan 2015 #2
I don't understand your point. cleanhippie Jan 2015 #3
I don't understand the outrage of someone who knows what the church stands for when the leader of upaloopa Jan 2015 #9
I don't understand the outrage of someone who doesn't undertand the outrage of someone cleanhippie Jan 2015 #24
I thought it stood for 'turn the other cheeck' Jesus stuff, but apparently it stands for 'punch thy Bluenorthwest Jan 2015 #6
It's not 'smoke and mirrors' so much as intentional mendacity on the part of his staff, the media Bluenorthwest Jan 2015 #4
Apparently there is some disagreement on that point. ucrdem Jan 2015 #7
Just goes to show the rank hypocrisy. cleanhippie Jan 2015 #8
And how good his ex-FOX News pr consultant is at doing his job. beam me up scottie Jan 2015 #19
There were a lot of people unhappy with that choice. PeaceNikki Jan 2015 #11
Five Reasons Why The Advocate Is Dangerously Wrong To Name Pope Francis Person Of The Year beam me up scottie Jan 2015 #20
Pope Francis preaches hate from the pulpit Major Nikon Jan 2015 #12
He has pissed off conservatives FLPanhandle Jan 2015 #10
I'd say the same of Obama. hunter Jan 2015 #13
Criticizing a bigoted catholic leader is not the same thing as bashing catholics. beam me up scottie Jan 2015 #15
Hello!!! Good to see you here. I'm not asking for any apology. hunter Jan 2015 #21
Hi yourself! beam me up scottie Jan 2015 #22
Here are some of the things his cheerleaders don't want you to see: beam me up scottie Jan 2015 #14
DU rec... SidDithers Jan 2015 #16
It is not true that he "maintains a hardline cabinet." He has made substantial changes pnwmom Jan 2015 #17
The Catholic Church is growing at a rate of 12% year. Drahthaardogs Jan 2015 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Jan 2015 #23
+1 cleanhippie Jan 2015 #25
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