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In reply to the discussion: I am very pleased that President Obama has become a Liberal [View all]pampango
(24,692 posts)105. True but those red states with no income tax rely on more regressive sales and property taxes.
What makes a regressive system
The taxation systems in the 10 most regressive states shared a number of features, the authors found. Four lack personal income taxes, while five have virtually flat (or non-progressive) personal income taxes. Six of the states rely too heavily on sales taxes, which are regressive because consumption and incomes do not rise in lockstep. (Consumption accounts for a larger share of income for low-wage earners than high-wage earners.)
As the chart below shows, income taxes are typically the most progressive, on average, while property taxes are slightly regressive. Sales and excise taxes tend to be very regressive, since spending as a share of income tends to fall as income rises.&w=1484
While Delawares income tax is not particularly progressive, its heavy reliance on income taxes instead of consumption taxes make its system the least regressive overall. Though not comparable to a state, D.C. ranks as the next least regressive tax system, followed by California, Oregon, Montana and Vermont. D.C., Minnesota and Vermont make their tax systems fairer by providing generous refundable Earned Income Tax Credits to lower-wage earners.
Of course, the way a tax is structured matters, too. An income taxs progressiveness is often determined by two factors: a tax rate that gradually rises with income and the availability of refundable tax credits targeted at the lowest earners. As the chart below shows, while California, Louisiana and Alabama all levy personal income taxes, Californias is far more progressive.&w=1484
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/govbeat/wp/2015/01/14/how-state-tax-systems-unfairly-burden-low-income-earners/
Thanks for the links, particularly the WaPo one. I excerpted parts of it above. They were quite informative.
The CNN link showed the difference between Oregon and Washington. Oregon was high (#3) on the income tax ranking but on the bottom (#50) for sales taxes. Washington was about the opposite: no income tax and high (#3) in sales taxes.
In general, 8 of the top 10 states in terms of sales tax are Southern red states - Washington and Hawaii being the exceptions - while only 2 of these Southern red states (Kentucky and North Carolina) were in the top 10 in terms of income taxes.
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#15
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#32
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"I assume he'll also announce that he's ending efforts to grab money from the 99%"
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Yes. I'm so impressed he finally wants to tax the rich, help the middle class, at a time
RiverLover
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#16
Yeah, I remember being told to 'wait' too. Wait til he got a year in, then two years, then a term..
ND-Dem
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#50
Krugman: Why the One Percent Hates Obama - Their tax rates back to pre-Reagan levels
pampango
Jan 2015
#18
I guess Krugman missed the report from the Institute on Taxation and Economic Policy
RiverLover
Jan 2015
#36
"state and local taxes". Not really a surprise since republicans control most states.
pampango
Jan 2015
#37
True but those red states with no income tax rely on more regressive sales and property taxes.
pampango
Jan 2015
#105
I would like to see more comparisons than just California versus two Southern states
Art_from_Ark
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#106
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pampango
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#56
Yep, he's free to propose all kinds of stuff that will go nowhere since the gop owns capitol hill
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#19
Some would vote for a pile of shit if it was against Obama and the Democratic Party, too.
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Wake up and smell the global economy, L0onix. We live in a GLOBAL oligarchy.
BlueCaliDem
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#80
I'm an American who knows how to make lemonade out of lemons (as opposed to sucking on them).
BlueCaliDem
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#84
Fine, thank you. You? You seem to "lol" a lot, to the point that it's just...odd. eom
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