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Octafish

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81. You're exposed, Recursion. Here's what the National Lawyers Guild rep in Houston wrote...
Wed Jan 21, 2015, 10:25 AM
Jan 2015
Taking aim at the Occupy movement

An identified _____ as of October [2011] planned to engage in sniper attacks against protesters in Houston, Texas, if deemed necessary. An identified _____ had received intelligence that indicated the protesters in New York and Seattle planned similar protests in Houston, Dallas, San Antonio and Austin, Texas. _____ planned to gather intelligence against the leaders of the protest groups and obtain photographs, then formulate a plan to kill the leadership via suppressed sniper rifles.\
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On 13 October 2011, writer sent via email an excerpt from the daily _____ regarding FBI Houston's _____ to all IAs, SSRAs and SSA _____. This _____ identified the exploitation of the Occupy Movement by _____ interested in developing a long-term plan to kill local Occupy leaders via sniper fire.
Those are excerpts from documents obtained by Dave Lindorff through a FOIA request to the FBI regarding the Occupy movement. This is how seriously someone took the Occupy movement given the economic conditions and events happening around the world in 2011.


Through my work with the National Lawyers Guild I represented members of Occupy Houston, and their supporters, who were arrested during their "occupation" of downtown Houston. In the course of that representation a colleague, Greg Gladden, uncovered documents regarding the infiltration of the Occupy Austin movement by officers with the Austin Police Department. The documents also spelled out the involvement of the FBI and other law enforcement agencies.

Never during the course of our representation of the Occupy Houston protesters did we hear anything about a plot to kill the leadership of the Occupy movement in Houston. If the information contained within these documents is true, it raises some very serious questions.

Just how scared of the Occupy movement was the government? Or, maybe the question should be just how scared were business leaders and their lackeys in the government? The Occupy protests were a mass movement that had the potential to catch fire. That they didn't is due to the government's crackdowns and, I would argue, on the lack of a cohesive message from the movement.

The more important question is, obviously, who was behind the alleged plot to assassinate Occupy leaders in Houston? Why did the government redact any identification information about whose plot it was? Is that information redacted because it would expose confidential sources, or is it redacted because the FBI was behind the alleged plot?

I must admit that I have a very hard time believing that the assassination plot was a government-hatched plan. The more effective tactics in shutting down the movement were either driving the protesters out of the parks or waiting them out. Sending in snipers to kill protesters seems like a massive overreaction.

Of course maybe the FBI had infiltrated right-wing groups opposed to the Occupy movement and were running an undercover operation to put the groups out of business. If that were the case, how much of this alleged plot was cooked up by group members and how much of the idea was planted in their heads by undercover agents?

[font color="red"]Whatever the answers to the questions may be, we know that something was up. We know that the Houston FBI knew about the plot and that they provided no warning to the Occupy protesters in Tranquility Park.[/font color]

We also know that the FBI characterized the Occupy movement as a terrorist organization - apparently because the participants dared to question the status quo and the government's role in the economic collapse. For those of y'all who are okay with our government's domestic surveillance programs under the belief that the programs are keeping us safe, just take a moment to think about how low the bar is for the government to label a group as being a terrorist organization.

CONTINUED...

http://kennedy-law.blogspot.com/2013/07/taking-aim-at-occupy-movement.html

Don't know about you, but I think the FBI has no business monitoring, disrupting or destroying US citizens who are peaceful critics of the government.

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Nothing will surprise me anymore NoJusticeNoPeace Jan 2015 #1
FBI Knew of Plot to Execute Occupy Activists but Did Nothing Octafish Jan 2015 #12
Yes, that's where you linked again to Dave Lindorff. zappaman Jan 2015 #13
What does that have to do with the FBI memo where they talk of killing Occupy leaders? Octafish Jan 2015 #25
Here's your "great journalist" calling for Obamas impeachment zappaman Jan 2015 #26
Dave Lindorff and Barbara Olshansky wrote a book about impeaching George W Bush. Octafish Jan 2015 #74
Not familliar with Lindorff are you? Not really surprised to be honest. Funny how over the sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #68
Very familiar, thanks. n/t zappaman Jan 2015 #69
Perhaps Kyle's behavior became problematic PeoViejo Jan 2015 #2
The ones they worry about are very surprising. Octafish Jan 2015 #18
I remember that..... PeoViejo Jan 2015 #43
He admitted JFK Involvement In 2005 billhicks76 Jan 2015 #51
Post removed Post removed Jan 2015 #3
er, except thousands of people did not suddenly go missing. Schema Thing Jan 2015 #17
CBS: Thousands Still Missing After Katrina dissentient Jan 2015 #19
Why was that other post hidden? Jamastiene Jan 2015 #71
Thank you airc we never got an accurate accounting of the dead and missing from that sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #83
A bunch of cops opened fire on a group of people trying to cross Danziger Bridge out of NOLA. Octafish Jan 2015 #30
Is anyone still optimistic that a revolution will happen in this country? AZ Progressive Jan 2015 #4
Sure. They are deluded, but certain. Lol. And they will be just as certain jtuck004 Jan 2015 #14
You actually believe this bullshit? Archae Jan 2015 #5
Careful or you'll get blue inked to death with crap going back to Richard III. nt Dreamer Tatum Jan 2015 #7
More CIAdidit nonsense. NuclearDem Jan 2015 #9
If I said flying saucers did it, you couldn't "disprove it" either. Archae Jan 2015 #10
Sorry, guess I wasn't clear. That point was about the OP. NuclearDem Jan 2015 #11
Ok, no prob. Archae Jan 2015 #15
Lame billhicks76 Jan 2015 #53
The FBI memo exists. If this were a better democracy, We'd know what the redacted parts say. Octafish Jan 2015 #47
Maybe you should read the memo Recursion Jan 2015 #56
What's shitty is the US Government contracting with killers. Octafish Jan 2015 #73
You should really read that memo Recursion Jan 2015 #75
That's what you said before. And you're still wrong. Octafish Jan 2015 #77
Because I can read English Recursion Jan 2015 #79
You're exposed, Recursion. Here's what the National Lawyers Guild rep in Houston wrote... Octafish Jan 2015 #81
READ YOUR OWN DAMN POST Recursion Jan 2015 #84
You're still wrong, Recursion. Where did I write what you said? Octafish Jan 2015 #85
I see it is conspiracy theory time here at DU again Lurks Often Jan 2015 #6
They wouldn't necessarily have to have been on the superdome dissentient Jan 2015 #8
The top of the Superdome came directly from the story Lurks Often Jan 2015 #24
All I'm doing is simple google searches: "Violent Katrina deaths puzzle police" - AP dissentient Jan 2015 #28
Take your conspiracy theory nonsense elsewhere Lurks Often Jan 2015 #32
"9 years later, 705 people are reported as still missing." You are assuming all the victims were dissentient Jan 2015 #36
Never argue with conspiracy theorists, they aren't interested Lurks Often Jan 2015 #39
You don't seem interested in approaching this from a scientific perspective dissentient Jan 2015 #40
Give IT A Rest billhicks76 Jan 2015 #49
Details erpowers Jan 2015 #62
Don't argue troublesome details like that with the conspiracy theorists! Lurks Often Jan 2015 #72
That was my initial take, too. Octafish Jan 2015 #31
Yawn, you keep trying to connect those imaginary dots Lurks Often Jan 2015 #33
It's an FBI memo talking snipers for hire. And that's DemocracyNow! Octafish Jan 2015 #41
Inside Job billhicks76 Jan 2015 #48
OFFS no it's not Recursion Jan 2015 #58
You Haven't Read The Story? billhicks76 Jan 2015 #50
More from your source. zappaman Jan 2015 #16
David Lindorff is a great journalist. Octafish Jan 2015 #20
Here's him cheering on global warming. zappaman Jan 2015 #22
"assassination campaign"??? greytdemocrat Jan 2015 #21
That's one interpretation. I don't see how anyone can consider protesters enemies of the state. Octafish Jan 2015 #87
K & R !!! WillyT Jan 2015 #23
Give a big thank you to the NSA apologists who post here, protest makes them whereisjustice Jan 2015 #27
This message was self-deleted by its author blkmusclmachine Jan 2015 #29
You need to link the Illuminati to the story. (nt) jeff47 Jan 2015 #34
Consider the source. Tommy_Carcetti Jan 2015 #35
...or is that just what THEY want you to think? NuclearDem Jan 2015 #37
Just one of the many reasons I can't stand gopiscrap Jan 2015 #38
War On Terror A Fraud billhicks76 Jan 2015 #42
Now there it is. JEB Jan 2015 #46
How FBI Entrapment Is Inventing 'Terrorists' - and Letting Bad Guys Off the Hook Octafish Jan 2015 #78
It wasn't a "memo to shoot Occupy leaders", it was an investigation of a threat against them Recursion Jan 2015 #44
Shhhh! zappaman Jan 2015 #54
That's how I read it. The FBI investigated a threat against Occupy. tammywammy Jan 2015 #61
That's how EVERYONE who doesn't think EVERYTHING is a conspiracy reads it. n/t zappaman Jan 2015 #64
No. That's what you said. Very different take for those without an agenda. Octafish Jan 2015 #80
Because nobody else uses the phrase "if deemed necessary." NuclearDem Jan 2015 #82
FBI met with agents or agencies unknown concerning the assassination of American citizens... Octafish Jan 2015 #86
No shit they did, that's what investigations entail. NuclearDem Jan 2015 #89
Doesn't consistently missing the point embarrass you, NuclearDem? Octafish Jan 2015 #91
How on earth does that indicate an official agency was behind the plot? NuclearDem Jan 2015 #92
Like the time the CIA enlisted the Mafia to assassinate Fidel Castro? Octafish Jan 2015 #100
So, basically, CIAdidit NuclearDem Jan 2015 #103
Not my fault so much of this story is secret. I'd like to know the truth. Octafish Jan 2015 #111
First they came for "conspiracy theorists"... JEB Jan 2015 #45
Hats Off Octafish Jan 2015 #76
So, the Boston bombing was a false flag attack? zappaman Jan 2015 #93
Stop trying to make me responsible for something you wrote, zappaman. Octafish Jan 2015 #94
Then why did you post that crap? zappaman Jan 2015 #95
The photos showed two people wearing the company's logo. Octafish Jan 2015 #97
That's the kind of nonsense that turd Alex Jones likes to talk about. zappaman Jan 2015 #101
What do you know, a smear. Octafish Jan 2015 #108
You agree with Alex Jones by posting the EXACT same nonsense he had. zappaman Jan 2015 #112
Ignoramus et ignorabimus. Octafish Jan 2015 #115
Yes, I agree Alex Jones is an ignoramus. zappaman Jan 2015 #117
Posts article suggesting Boston Marathon bombing was a false flag attack NuclearDem Jan 2015 #96
Tag Team Time Wasters Octafish Jan 2015 #98
Nothing is a bigger waste of time then you posting Alex Jones crap. zappaman Jan 2015 #102
The FBI document is from the FBI. Octafish Jan 2015 #106
I understand you stand with Alex Jones when posting Boston false flag nonsense. zappaman Jan 2015 #107
Where do I quote Alex Jones, zappaman? Octafish Jan 2015 #109
Alex Jones posted the same photo as you zappaman Jan 2015 #110
Which is a different thing from what you said, zappaman. Octafish Jan 2015 #113
Nope. You and Alex Jones are peas in a pod, my friend. zappaman Jan 2015 #114
Boston bombing CTers like Alex Jones are really the bottom of the barrel. zappaman Jan 2015 #116
Why state what isn't true, zappaman? Octafish Jan 2015 #119
You don't agree Alex Jones is scraping the bottom of the barrel by zappaman Jan 2015 #120
ALCOA! FSogol Jan 2015 #52
--- G_j Jan 2015 #55
Have y'all ever seen the Superdome? nolabear Jan 2015 #57
Does this look like nothing to you? Unknown Beatle Jan 2015 #63
I'm sorry... I just cannot in good faith Texasgal Jan 2015 #59
something, something, something, BFEE!!!... SidDithers Jan 2015 #60
... tammywammy Jan 2015 #65
Plausible Deniability helps the BFEE, SidDithers of DU. Octafish Jan 2015 #70
To those that doubt... Unknown Beatle Jan 2015 #66
I don't doubt there was a threat against Occupy Houston tammywammy Jan 2015 #67
"Remember FBI memo to shoot Occupy leaders?" NCTraveler Jan 2015 #88
Here you go. Octafish Jan 2015 #90
K & R AzDar Jan 2015 #99
Many have forgotten and most weren't born. Octafish Jan 2015 #121
Is there a photo copy of the document on line somewhere? upaloopa Jan 2015 #104
Here you go. Octafish Jan 2015 #118
I really don't know why on a liberal forum some people seem intent on trying to muzzle others from btrflykng9 Jan 2015 #105
Thank you, btrflykng9. Octafish Jan 2015 #122
+1 btrflykng9 Jan 2015 #123
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