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In reply to the discussion: Kyle the Sniper Katrina story may not be imaginary. Remember FBI memo to shoot Occupy leaders? [View all]Octafish
(55,745 posts)81. You're exposed, Recursion. Here's what the National Lawyers Guild rep in Houston wrote...
Taking aim at the Occupy movement
Through my work with the National Lawyers Guild I represented members of Occupy Houston, and their supporters, who were arrested during their "occupation" of downtown Houston. In the course of that representation a colleague, Greg Gladden, uncovered documents regarding the infiltration of the Occupy Austin movement by officers with the Austin Police Department. The documents also spelled out the involvement of the FBI and other law enforcement agencies.
Never during the course of our representation of the Occupy Houston protesters did we hear anything about a plot to kill the leadership of the Occupy movement in Houston. If the information contained within these documents is true, it raises some very serious questions.
Just how scared of the Occupy movement was the government? Or, maybe the question should be just how scared were business leaders and their lackeys in the government? The Occupy protests were a mass movement that had the potential to catch fire. That they didn't is due to the government's crackdowns and, I would argue, on the lack of a cohesive message from the movement.
The more important question is, obviously, who was behind the alleged plot to assassinate Occupy leaders in Houston? Why did the government redact any identification information about whose plot it was? Is that information redacted because it would expose confidential sources, or is it redacted because the FBI was behind the alleged plot?
I must admit that I have a very hard time believing that the assassination plot was a government-hatched plan. The more effective tactics in shutting down the movement were either driving the protesters out of the parks or waiting them out. Sending in snipers to kill protesters seems like a massive overreaction.
Of course maybe the FBI had infiltrated right-wing groups opposed to the Occupy movement and were running an undercover operation to put the groups out of business. If that were the case, how much of this alleged plot was cooked up by group members and how much of the idea was planted in their heads by undercover agents?
[font color="red"]Whatever the answers to the questions may be, we know that something was up. We know that the Houston FBI knew about the plot and that they provided no warning to the Occupy protesters in Tranquility Park.[/font color]
We also know that the FBI characterized the Occupy movement as a terrorist organization - apparently because the participants dared to question the status quo and the government's role in the economic collapse. For those of y'all who are okay with our government's domestic surveillance programs under the belief that the programs are keeping us safe, just take a moment to think about how low the bar is for the government to label a group as being a terrorist organization.
CONTINUED...
http://kennedy-law.blogspot.com/2013/07/taking-aim-at-occupy-movement.html
Don't know about you, but I think the FBI has no business monitoring, disrupting or destroying US citizens who are peaceful critics of the government.
An identified _____ as of October [2011] planned to engage in sniper attacks against protesters in Houston, Texas, if deemed necessary. An identified _____ had received intelligence that indicated the protesters in New York and Seattle planned similar protests in Houston, Dallas, San Antonio and Austin, Texas. _____ planned to gather intelligence against the leaders of the protest groups and obtain photographs, then formulate a plan to kill the leadership via suppressed sniper rifles.\
* * *
On 13 October 2011, writer sent via email an excerpt from the daily _____ regarding FBI Houston's _____ to all IAs, SSRAs and SSA _____. This _____ identified the exploitation of the Occupy Movement by _____ interested in developing a long-term plan to kill local Occupy leaders via sniper fire.
Those are excerpts from documents obtained by Dave Lindorff through a FOIA request to the FBI regarding the Occupy movement. This is how seriously someone took the Occupy movement given the economic conditions and events happening around the world in 2011.
Through my work with the National Lawyers Guild I represented members of Occupy Houston, and their supporters, who were arrested during their "occupation" of downtown Houston. In the course of that representation a colleague, Greg Gladden, uncovered documents regarding the infiltration of the Occupy Austin movement by officers with the Austin Police Department. The documents also spelled out the involvement of the FBI and other law enforcement agencies.
Never during the course of our representation of the Occupy Houston protesters did we hear anything about a plot to kill the leadership of the Occupy movement in Houston. If the information contained within these documents is true, it raises some very serious questions.
Just how scared of the Occupy movement was the government? Or, maybe the question should be just how scared were business leaders and their lackeys in the government? The Occupy protests were a mass movement that had the potential to catch fire. That they didn't is due to the government's crackdowns and, I would argue, on the lack of a cohesive message from the movement.
The more important question is, obviously, who was behind the alleged plot to assassinate Occupy leaders in Houston? Why did the government redact any identification information about whose plot it was? Is that information redacted because it would expose confidential sources, or is it redacted because the FBI was behind the alleged plot?
I must admit that I have a very hard time believing that the assassination plot was a government-hatched plan. The more effective tactics in shutting down the movement were either driving the protesters out of the parks or waiting them out. Sending in snipers to kill protesters seems like a massive overreaction.
Of course maybe the FBI had infiltrated right-wing groups opposed to the Occupy movement and were running an undercover operation to put the groups out of business. If that were the case, how much of this alleged plot was cooked up by group members and how much of the idea was planted in their heads by undercover agents?
[font color="red"]Whatever the answers to the questions may be, we know that something was up. We know that the Houston FBI knew about the plot and that they provided no warning to the Occupy protesters in Tranquility Park.[/font color]
We also know that the FBI characterized the Occupy movement as a terrorist organization - apparently because the participants dared to question the status quo and the government's role in the economic collapse. For those of y'all who are okay with our government's domestic surveillance programs under the belief that the programs are keeping us safe, just take a moment to think about how low the bar is for the government to label a group as being a terrorist organization.
CONTINUED...
http://kennedy-law.blogspot.com/2013/07/taking-aim-at-occupy-movement.html
Don't know about you, but I think the FBI has no business monitoring, disrupting or destroying US citizens who are peaceful critics of the government.
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Kyle the Sniper Katrina story may not be imaginary. Remember FBI memo to shoot Occupy leaders? [View all]
Octafish
Jan 2015
OP
What does that have to do with the FBI memo where they talk of killing Occupy leaders?
Octafish
Jan 2015
#25
Dave Lindorff and Barbara Olshansky wrote a book about impeaching George W Bush.
Octafish
Jan 2015
#74
Not familliar with Lindorff are you? Not really surprised to be honest. Funny how over the
sabrina 1
Jan 2015
#68
Thank you airc we never got an accurate accounting of the dead and missing from that
sabrina 1
Jan 2015
#83
A bunch of cops opened fire on a group of people trying to cross Danziger Bridge out of NOLA.
Octafish
Jan 2015
#30
Is anyone still optimistic that a revolution will happen in this country?
AZ Progressive
Jan 2015
#4
Careful or you'll get blue inked to death with crap going back to Richard III. nt
Dreamer Tatum
Jan 2015
#7
The FBI memo exists. If this were a better democracy, We'd know what the redacted parts say.
Octafish
Jan 2015
#47
You're exposed, Recursion. Here's what the National Lawyers Guild rep in Houston wrote...
Octafish
Jan 2015
#81
All I'm doing is simple google searches: "Violent Katrina deaths puzzle police" - AP
dissentient
Jan 2015
#28
"9 years later, 705 people are reported as still missing." You are assuming all the victims were
dissentient
Jan 2015
#36
You don't seem interested in approaching this from a scientific perspective
dissentient
Jan 2015
#40
That's one interpretation. I don't see how anyone can consider protesters enemies of the state.
Octafish
Jan 2015
#87
Give a big thank you to the NSA apologists who post here, protest makes them
whereisjustice
Jan 2015
#27
How FBI Entrapment Is Inventing 'Terrorists' - and Letting Bad Guys Off the Hook
Octafish
Jan 2015
#78
It wasn't a "memo to shoot Occupy leaders", it was an investigation of a threat against them
Recursion
Jan 2015
#44
That's how EVERYONE who doesn't think EVERYTHING is a conspiracy reads it. n/t
zappaman
Jan 2015
#64
FBI met with agents or agencies unknown concerning the assassination of American citizens...
Octafish
Jan 2015
#86
I understand you stand with Alex Jones when posting Boston false flag nonsense.
zappaman
Jan 2015
#107
I really don't know why on a liberal forum some people seem intent on trying to muzzle others from
btrflykng9
Jan 2015
#105