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47. My mother's a retired teacher and a huge

Wed Jan 21, 2015, 12:35 PM

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football fan, and she says the very same thing. Of course, being from Cleveland (where she still lives, I'm in a western state with no NFL team), we hate Belicheat for what he did to the Browns and how gleeful he was about leaving with them for Baltimore. He made no secret of his disdain for Cleveland from the moment of his arrival, despite the fact that Clevelanders were the ones paying his fat salary and perks.

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Report: NFL found 11 Patriots footballs were under-inflated by 2 pounds [View all] MohRokTah Jan 2015 OP

Patriots Tree-Hugger Jan 2015 #1

They were caught red-handed before MannyGoldstein Jan 2015 #4

Eagles Superbowl Tree-Hugger Jan 2015 #59

And under their current coach, Seattle leads the league in player suspensions for performance drugs mythology Jan 2015 #11

Good point. Is it just me, or does liberalhistorian Jan 2015 #45

I didn't know that. Tree-Hugger Jan 2015 #58

Well now I know I'm not watching AwakeAtLast Jan 2015 #92

Not any more. Washington seems to hold that crown. Angleae Jan 2015 #94

the win should be taken away from them dsc Jan 2015 #2

Totally agree gopiscrap Jan 2015 #6

My mother's a retired teacher and a huge liberalhistorian Jan 2015 #47

They beat the Ravens by only a few points -- and reports say pnwmom Jan 2015 #109

in point of fact dsc Jan 2015 #118

And with their history of cheating you have to wonder pnwmom Jan 2015 #119

Rematch! Jacoby365 Jan 2015 #3

That's BeliCHEAT for ya. liberalhistorian Jan 2015 #46

Forfeit tabasco Jan 2015 #85

Fines??? They need to lose their place in the Superbowl. They are known cheaters. Pisces Jan 2015 #5

Absolutely gopiscrap Jan 2015 #7

I agree they got caught once. Initech Jan 2015 #15

Baloney. And it's Belichick. BillZBubb Jan 2015 #20

At the very least, they get caught cheating more than other teams mythology Jan 2015 #50

Absolutely. City Lights Jan 2015 #21

Should Pete Carroll be banned for providing drugs to players? former9thward Jan 2015 #43

Yes, if proven true AgingAmerican Jan 2015 #62

Yeah, he is real innocent. former9thward Jan 2015 #66

Post the proof AgingAmerican Jan 2015 #67

Sorry, I am not going anywhere. former9thward Jan 2015 #69

Carroll is not accused of cheating AgingAmerican Jan 2015 #72

Since when is pot a PED? opiate69 Jan 2015 #68

Ask that question of the NFL, not me. former9thward Jan 2015 #70

Well, since we're re-litigating the past now... opiate69 Jan 2015 #73

I don't call for anyone to be suspended former9thward Jan 2015 #77

errrrrrrr.... uhhhhhhhhhh frylock Jan 2015 #78

The players who took the drugs were punished LittleBlue Jan 2015 #89

Ha ha ha! Like there are ANY NFL teams who don't use drugs. Frank Cannon Jan 2015 #97

No innocence in the NFL. former9thward Jan 2015 #98

They certainly deflated the Colts balls. TheCowsCameHome Jan 2015 #8

lol DrDan Jan 2015 #48

Colts go to super bowl DiverDave Jan 2015 #9

Nothing will happen -- even if they did cheat. earthside Jan 2015 #10

The official fine for deflating a ball is $25K MohRokTah Jan 2015 #52

Sounds like a made-up scandal to me matt819 Jan 2015 #12

Pressure/Temp Saucepan of Kerbango Jan 2015 #18

2 pounds under inflated would be 10.5 PSI eom MohRokTah Jan 2015 #38

220...221 Saucepan of Kerbango Jan 2015 #42

Playing time temperature was 51 degrees AgingAmerican Jan 2015 #63

And if it WERE a factor, it would have affected Colts balls, too. n/t pnwmom Jan 2015 #111

Not solid at all. Each set of balls are taken care of by their own team, pnwmom Jan 2015 #110

Sitting out in the cold & depending on when they were inflated... Historic NY Jan 2015 #13

I've read that you lost 1 PSI for every 10 degrees F loss. alarimer Jan 2015 #32

Exactly... Historic NY Jan 2015 #35

30 something below zero temps flattened all four of my truck tires. beam me up scottie Jan 2015 #61

weird that the balls on the Colt's side of the field were unaffected by the temperature.. frylock Jan 2015 #54

Yeah, I read they were all at 13 lbs at halftime AgingAmerican Jan 2015 #65

The Colts balls also sat out in the 50 degree "cold" weather, pnwmom Jan 2015 #116

I strongly doubt this was cheating. We need to wait for all the facts to come out. BillZBubb Jan 2015 #14

Ah, so it's only cheating if someone finds out you cheated. trotsky Jan 2015 #16

That's not what I said and you know it. BillZBubb Jan 2015 #19

Yeah it is. trotsky Jan 2015 #23

Wrong again. BillZBubb Jan 2015 #25

That's why I said "IF." trotsky Jan 2015 #27

if that were the case, then one would think that ALL the balls would've been effected.. frylock Jan 2015 #55

The footballs are controlled by the home team Yavin4 Jan 2015 #33

They are supplied by the home team AgingAmerican Jan 2015 #75

No one is controlling the balls' access except the teams. And I'm sure the officials pnwmom Jan 2015 #112

Why do the teams supply the balls? Why doesn't the league? hopeforchange2008 Jan 2015 #17

+1 Jamaal510 Jan 2015 #22

that will likely change for next season frylock Jan 2015 #56

Someone better than me at Photoshopping IDemo Jan 2015 #24

So, you think deflated balls are the reason the Colts got trounced? BillZBubb Jan 2015 #26

No IDemo Jan 2015 #29

then Saucepan of Kerbango Jan 2015 #41

oh, well that changes everything then frylock Jan 2015 #57

Brad Johnson cheated AgingAmerican Jan 2015 #79

One bad pass, one interception, one failure to convert tabasco Jan 2015 #86

I think they need to check into what effect the cold has Marrah_G Jan 2015 #28

Big difference its science. Historic NY Jan 2015 #30

And how about pipi_k Jan 2015 #34

They did. The Colts balls all tested within regulation limits, pnwmom Jan 2015 #114

I think they said the temperature at the start of the game was 51�F. bullwinkle428 Jan 2015 #39

All the balls were tested inside -- but magically, the Colts balls weren't pnwmom Jan 2015 #113

So a player who pipi_k Jan 2015 #31

The refs retested all the balls at halftime hack89 Jan 2015 #64

What I'm saying is pipi_k Jan 2015 #99

All the local TV stations are giving people footballs with different pressures hack89 Jan 2015 #103

They were suspicious enough to test all the balls at half-time. pnwmom Jan 2015 #115

Cheating is cheating. What about the Ravens game? Did they under-inflate the balls in that game Yavin4 Jan 2015 #36

It's a shame really because I don't think the Pats needed the deflated balls to win. dilby Jan 2015 #37

That's what's so puzzling to me, liberalhistorian Jan 2015 #44

Well to be honest, they made the decision to cheat before the game started. dilby Jan 2015 #49

Indeed. They should liberalhistorian Jan 2015 #51

Why is it too late to suspend them from the Super Bowl??? I don't get that. nt adigal Jan 2015 #104

Because the Superbowl is a little more than a week away. dilby Jan 2015 #106

Maybe they needed them to beat the Ravens, which they only did by a few points. pnwmom Jan 2015 #117

Well, there's a reason why he's liberalhistorian Jan 2015 #40

Maybe cold shrinkage? Ask George Costanza. n/t benz380 Jan 2015 #53

If the NFL really cared One_Life_To_Give Jan 2015 #60

if nothing else, they should take responsibility for balls away from the teams spanone Jan 2015 #71

Was everyone using the same balls? we can do it Jan 2015 #74

The home team provides the visiting team with 12 balls and themselves with 12 balls. MohRokTah Jan 2015 #76

So wouldn't they be hurting themselves, then? we can do it Jan 2015 #82

No, under inflated balls are easier to throw and catch, especially in wet weather. MohRokTah Jan 2015 #83

except it didn't work out that way. onenote Jan 2015 #84

But the cheat was still in place MohRokTah Jan 2015 #87

No disagreement. onenote Jan 2015 #88

It's really pipi_k Jan 2015 #100

Bill Belicheat is a known liar. MohRokTah Jan 2015 #101

The Patriots had fumbling problems LittleBlue Jan 2015 #91

And yet... pipi_k Jan 2015 #102

I realize that all is fair in love and war... TeeYiYi Jan 2015 #80

I blame Die Fledermaus BeyondGeography Jan 2015 #81

NE played better with properly inflated balls Go Vols Jan 2015 #90

Brady: 11/21, 80 yards first half. 12/14 139 yards second half onenote Jan 2015 #96

If this were pipi_k Jan 2015 #105

The only deterrent would be to take away Superbowl. What kind of message are we sending to Pisces Jan 2015 #93

except the league already has specified the penalty onenote Jan 2015 #95

Chris Hayes: Bill Belichick is the Richard Nixon of football coaches. Paladin Jan 2015 #107

lalz... Blue_Tires Jan 2015 #108