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TheKentuckian

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5. How about a good but not great and further from masterpiece big budget bio pic about a soldier

Wed Jan 21, 2015, 05:02 PM

Jan 2015

who was a standout at his specialty that has now become a weird proxy for the entire Iraq War, I guess maybe the whole stupid war on terror for some on both ends of the debate.

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Has American Sniper become some "Litmus Test"? [View all] maxrandb Jan 2015 OP

Your right... butterfly77 Jan 2015 #1

There are two instances were snipers are morally legitimate: Kelvin Mace Jan 2015 #2

"Hathcock also killed a female Viet Cong sniper called �Apache Woman.� She delighted in braddy Jan 2015 #3

That would be a "counter-sniping" Kelvin Mace Jan 2015 #21

I don't think so, she was really shot for her torture and interrogation methods, and I braddy Jan 2015 #24

She was a sniper and they took her out Kelvin Mace Jan 2015 #32

Well she was an interrogater that made the kill list for her torturing prisoners, why insist braddy Jan 2015 #33

Mmmm... Kelvin Mace Jan 2015 #34

LOL, OK, we keep trained snipers available, we just don't use them to cover our troops, and braddy Jan 2015 #35

Shooting uniformed soldiers in a war zone Kelvin Mace Jan 2015 #40

So depending on what the enemy is wearing as he is sitting behind a machine gun, or while planting braddy Jan 2015 #43

It also depends on whether our soldiers are in the country Kelvin Mace Jan 2015 #44

In the meanwhile remove our sniper protection from our men and women in the kill zone. braddy Jan 2015 #46

How about remove our solder from places they have no moral Kelvin Mace Jan 2015 #47

Why switch to an entirely different conversation? An entirely different thread topic? braddy Jan 2015 #49

That's lovely, but not very realistic in the modern world. Adrahil Jan 2015 #57

Oh, I agree, Kelvin Mace Jan 2015 #61

I think over watch is perfectly legitimate. I never heard anyone call providing cover as immoral TheKentuckian Jan 2015 #6

Sniping used to terrorize civillain Kelvin Mace Jan 2015 #20

So what was the relation to my specific question? I gave a specific function and you come up with TheKentuckian Jan 2015 #50

A sniper can kill a target that would require a platoon-sized assault force otherwise Recursion Jan 2015 #38

I clarified my terms Kelvin Mace Jan 2015 #42

Targeting enemy officers to disrupt command and control and demoralise the enemy (n/t) Spider Jerusalem Jan 2015 #51

Once one side uses snipers for that Kelvin Mace Jan 2015 #62

It's about Chris Kyle being a braggard Matrosov Jan 2015 #63

See, my view is if being a sniper is something you brag about Kelvin Mace Jan 2015 #64

I think this movie and the attitude is disgusting gopiscrap Jan 2015 #4

Did you see the movie? awake Jan 2015 #8

Well everyone has an opinion yeoman6987 Jan 2015 #16

How about a good but not great and further from masterpiece big budget bio pic about a soldier TheKentuckian Jan 2015 #5

I haven't read the book nor have I seen the movie and will probably do neither. Arkansas Granny Jan 2015 #7

No - it is just a movie. hack89 Jan 2015 #9

Yeah, this movie happened purely by accident, totally random. Demit Jan 2015 #12

Somebody made a movie to make a bunch of money hack89 Jan 2015 #13

Did the OP suggest it was *created* as a litmus test crim son Jan 2015 #18

Perhaps on DU it has evolved but not in the real world. hack89 Jan 2015 #25

+1 Go Vols Jan 2015 #29

It's funny that this sniper movie is so hated, but all the other sniper movies were ignored braddy Jan 2015 #15

If you'd asked me when they'd come out crim son Jan 2015 #19

That sounds like someone that just doesn't like war movies, period, or historical dramas braddy Jan 2015 #22

In those films, the sniper is not the star. MADem Jan 2015 #52

It may be shenmue Jan 2015 #10

I've certainly seen it used as a Litmus test in the other direction on DU. N.T. Donald Ian Rankin Jan 2015 #11

Or maybe it is just a movie that either you enjoyed or didn't yeoman6987 Jan 2015 #14

I saw it and I enjoyed it. I don't have to spend every waking minute being political. Happyhippychick Jan 2015 #17

This guy spent his whole life trying to convince everybody what a badass he was tularetom Jan 2015 #23

Honestly the people that worship this guy as a hero for the doc03 Jan 2015 #26

Nah. It's just a movie. bigwillq Jan 2015 #27

Chris Kyle is no hero! QuebecYank Jan 2015 #28

The film paints him in a positive light hack89 Jan 2015 #31

No! QuebecYank Jan 2015 #36

Kyle was willing to sacrifice his life for others, what do you think he was doing during 4 combat braddy Jan 2015 #48

He signed up for military service. QuebecYank Jan 2015 #65

I was correcting your post about him not being willing to sacrifice his life, which is the opposite braddy Jan 2015 #67

Well if he's a hero, what do you call the nonmilitary people? QuebecYank Jan 2015 #68

Good Lord, don't you read a newspaper, heroes are all over the place, it's just that in braddy Jan 2015 #69

Yes. And my father and grandfather fought in wars, too! QuebecYank Jan 2015 #70

Don't accuse me of hero worship, accuse the military of not knowing what they mean when braddy Jan 2015 #71

The movie taps into a really unhealthy strain of sniper worship. Paladin Jan 2015 #30

did you see the sniper lover here calling another sniper "beloved"? ND-Dem Jan 2015 #45

I saw that Jamastiene Jan 2015 #56

Where was all the attention, love and flag-waving for the Hurt Locker? QuebecYank Jan 2015 #37

It got nominated for Best Picture and grossed $17 million Recursion Jan 2015 #41

But the country didn't get behind it. QuebecYank Jan 2015 #66

Terrific movie. (nt) Paladin Jan 2015 #60

I will say this about Chris Kyle... tenderfoot Jan 2015 #39

He was also a Republican AND Jamastiene Jan 2015 #53

Litmus test for whom? brooklynite Jan 2015 #54

Went to see it last night... Adrahil Jan 2015 #55

War porn. Scuba Jan 2015 #58

If it's a litmus test, then I am NOT an American and refuse to be one by those standards. alarimer Jan 2015 #59