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86. One bad pass, one interception, one failure to convert

Reply to BillZBubb (Reply #26)

Wed Jan 21, 2015, 08:00 PM

Jan 2015

often changes the entire course of a game.

But you knew that if you know anything about football.

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Report: NFL found 11 Patriots footballs were under-inflated by 2 pounds [View all] MohRokTah Jan 2015 OP

Patriots Tree-Hugger Jan 2015 #1

They were caught red-handed before MannyGoldstein Jan 2015 #4

Eagles Superbowl Tree-Hugger Jan 2015 #59

And under their current coach, Seattle leads the league in player suspensions for performance drugs mythology Jan 2015 #11

Good point. Is it just me, or does liberalhistorian Jan 2015 #45

I didn't know that. Tree-Hugger Jan 2015 #58

Well now I know I'm not watching AwakeAtLast Jan 2015 #92

Not any more. Washington seems to hold that crown. Angleae Jan 2015 #94

the win should be taken away from them dsc Jan 2015 #2

Totally agree gopiscrap Jan 2015 #6

My mother's a retired teacher and a huge liberalhistorian Jan 2015 #47

They beat the Ravens by only a few points -- and reports say pnwmom Jan 2015 #109

in point of fact dsc Jan 2015 #118

And with their history of cheating you have to wonder pnwmom Jan 2015 #119

Rematch! Jacoby365 Jan 2015 #3

That's BeliCHEAT for ya. liberalhistorian Jan 2015 #46

Forfeit tabasco Jan 2015 #85

Fines??? They need to lose their place in the Superbowl. They are known cheaters. Pisces Jan 2015 #5

Absolutely gopiscrap Jan 2015 #7

I agree they got caught once. Initech Jan 2015 #15

Baloney. And it's Belichick. BillZBubb Jan 2015 #20

At the very least, they get caught cheating more than other teams mythology Jan 2015 #50

Absolutely. City Lights Jan 2015 #21

Should Pete Carroll be banned for providing drugs to players? former9thward Jan 2015 #43

Yes, if proven true AgingAmerican Jan 2015 #62

Yeah, he is real innocent. former9thward Jan 2015 #66

Post the proof AgingAmerican Jan 2015 #67

Sorry, I am not going anywhere. former9thward Jan 2015 #69

Carroll is not accused of cheating AgingAmerican Jan 2015 #72

Since when is pot a PED? opiate69 Jan 2015 #68

Ask that question of the NFL, not me. former9thward Jan 2015 #70

Well, since we're re-litigating the past now... opiate69 Jan 2015 #73

I don't call for anyone to be suspended former9thward Jan 2015 #77

errrrrrrr.... uhhhhhhhhhh frylock Jan 2015 #78

The players who took the drugs were punished LittleBlue Jan 2015 #89

Ha ha ha! Like there are ANY NFL teams who don't use drugs. Frank Cannon Jan 2015 #97

No innocence in the NFL. former9thward Jan 2015 #98

They certainly deflated the Colts balls. TheCowsCameHome Jan 2015 #8

lol DrDan Jan 2015 #48

Colts go to super bowl DiverDave Jan 2015 #9

Nothing will happen -- even if they did cheat. earthside Jan 2015 #10

The official fine for deflating a ball is $25K MohRokTah Jan 2015 #52

Sounds like a made-up scandal to me matt819 Jan 2015 #12

Pressure/Temp Saucepan of Kerbango Jan 2015 #18

2 pounds under inflated would be 10.5 PSI eom MohRokTah Jan 2015 #38

220...221 Saucepan of Kerbango Jan 2015 #42

Playing time temperature was 51 degrees AgingAmerican Jan 2015 #63

And if it WERE a factor, it would have affected Colts balls, too. n/t pnwmom Jan 2015 #111

Not solid at all. Each set of balls are taken care of by their own team, pnwmom Jan 2015 #110

Sitting out in the cold & depending on when they were inflated... Historic NY Jan 2015 #13

I've read that you lost 1 PSI for every 10 degrees F loss. alarimer Jan 2015 #32

Exactly... Historic NY Jan 2015 #35

30 something below zero temps flattened all four of my truck tires. beam me up scottie Jan 2015 #61

weird that the balls on the Colt's side of the field were unaffected by the temperature.. frylock Jan 2015 #54

Yeah, I read they were all at 13 lbs at halftime AgingAmerican Jan 2015 #65

The Colts balls also sat out in the 50 degree "cold" weather, pnwmom Jan 2015 #116

I strongly doubt this was cheating. We need to wait for all the facts to come out. BillZBubb Jan 2015 #14

Ah, so it's only cheating if someone finds out you cheated. trotsky Jan 2015 #16

That's not what I said and you know it. BillZBubb Jan 2015 #19

Yeah it is. trotsky Jan 2015 #23

Wrong again. BillZBubb Jan 2015 #25

That's why I said "IF." trotsky Jan 2015 #27

if that were the case, then one would think that ALL the balls would've been effected.. frylock Jan 2015 #55

The footballs are controlled by the home team Yavin4 Jan 2015 #33

They are supplied by the home team AgingAmerican Jan 2015 #75

No one is controlling the balls' access except the teams. And I'm sure the officials pnwmom Jan 2015 #112

Why do the teams supply the balls? Why doesn't the league? hopeforchange2008 Jan 2015 #17

+1 Jamaal510 Jan 2015 #22

that will likely change for next season frylock Jan 2015 #56

Someone better than me at Photoshopping IDemo Jan 2015 #24

So, you think deflated balls are the reason the Colts got trounced? BillZBubb Jan 2015 #26

No IDemo Jan 2015 #29

then Saucepan of Kerbango Jan 2015 #41

oh, well that changes everything then frylock Jan 2015 #57

Brad Johnson cheated AgingAmerican Jan 2015 #79

One bad pass, one interception, one failure to convert tabasco Jan 2015 #86

I think they need to check into what effect the cold has Marrah_G Jan 2015 #28

Big difference its science. Historic NY Jan 2015 #30

And how about pipi_k Jan 2015 #34

They did. The Colts balls all tested within regulation limits, pnwmom Jan 2015 #114

I think they said the temperature at the start of the game was 51�F. bullwinkle428 Jan 2015 #39

All the balls were tested inside -- but magically, the Colts balls weren't pnwmom Jan 2015 #113

So a player who pipi_k Jan 2015 #31

The refs retested all the balls at halftime hack89 Jan 2015 #64

What I'm saying is pipi_k Jan 2015 #99

All the local TV stations are giving people footballs with different pressures hack89 Jan 2015 #103

They were suspicious enough to test all the balls at half-time. pnwmom Jan 2015 #115

Cheating is cheating. What about the Ravens game? Did they under-inflate the balls in that game Yavin4 Jan 2015 #36

It's a shame really because I don't think the Pats needed the deflated balls to win. dilby Jan 2015 #37

That's what's so puzzling to me, liberalhistorian Jan 2015 #44

Well to be honest, they made the decision to cheat before the game started. dilby Jan 2015 #49

Indeed. They should liberalhistorian Jan 2015 #51

Why is it too late to suspend them from the Super Bowl??? I don't get that. nt adigal Jan 2015 #104

Because the Superbowl is a little more than a week away. dilby Jan 2015 #106

Maybe they needed them to beat the Ravens, which they only did by a few points. pnwmom Jan 2015 #117

Well, there's a reason why he's liberalhistorian Jan 2015 #40

Maybe cold shrinkage? Ask George Costanza. n/t benz380 Jan 2015 #53

If the NFL really cared One_Life_To_Give Jan 2015 #60

if nothing else, they should take responsibility for balls away from the teams spanone Jan 2015 #71

Was everyone using the same balls? we can do it Jan 2015 #74

The home team provides the visiting team with 12 balls and themselves with 12 balls. MohRokTah Jan 2015 #76

So wouldn't they be hurting themselves, then? we can do it Jan 2015 #82

No, under inflated balls are easier to throw and catch, especially in wet weather. MohRokTah Jan 2015 #83

except it didn't work out that way. onenote Jan 2015 #84

But the cheat was still in place MohRokTah Jan 2015 #87

No disagreement. onenote Jan 2015 #88

It's really pipi_k Jan 2015 #100

Bill Belicheat is a known liar. MohRokTah Jan 2015 #101

The Patriots had fumbling problems LittleBlue Jan 2015 #91

And yet... pipi_k Jan 2015 #102

I realize that all is fair in love and war... TeeYiYi Jan 2015 #80

I blame Die Fledermaus BeyondGeography Jan 2015 #81

NE played better with properly inflated balls Go Vols Jan 2015 #90

Brady: 11/21, 80 yards first half. 12/14 139 yards second half onenote Jan 2015 #96

If this were pipi_k Jan 2015 #105

The only deterrent would be to take away Superbowl. What kind of message are we sending to Pisces Jan 2015 #93

except the league already has specified the penalty onenote Jan 2015 #95

Chris Hayes: Bill Belichick is the Richard Nixon of football coaches. Paladin Jan 2015 #107

lalz... Blue_Tires Jan 2015 #108