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Jamastiene

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53. He was also a Republican AND

Thu Jan 22, 2015, 09:06 AM

Jan 2015

racist as fuck. I don't get why there are people on DU who see him as a hero, but there seem to be a few of them even on DU as well.

Most veterans that I know cannot be talked into talking about anyone they might have killed, even if you try to get them to talk about it. They sure the fuck don't go around bragging about it.

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Has American Sniper become some "Litmus Test"? [View all] maxrandb Jan 2015 OP

Your right... butterfly77 Jan 2015 #1

There are two instances were snipers are morally legitimate: Kelvin Mace Jan 2015 #2

"Hathcock also killed a female Viet Cong sniper called �Apache Woman.� She delighted in braddy Jan 2015 #3

That would be a "counter-sniping" Kelvin Mace Jan 2015 #21

I don't think so, she was really shot for her torture and interrogation methods, and I braddy Jan 2015 #24

She was a sniper and they took her out Kelvin Mace Jan 2015 #32

Well she was an interrogater that made the kill list for her torturing prisoners, why insist braddy Jan 2015 #33

Mmmm... Kelvin Mace Jan 2015 #34

LOL, OK, we keep trained snipers available, we just don't use them to cover our troops, and braddy Jan 2015 #35

Shooting uniformed soldiers in a war zone Kelvin Mace Jan 2015 #40

So depending on what the enemy is wearing as he is sitting behind a machine gun, or while planting braddy Jan 2015 #43

It also depends on whether our soldiers are in the country Kelvin Mace Jan 2015 #44

In the meanwhile remove our sniper protection from our men and women in the kill zone. braddy Jan 2015 #46

How about remove our solder from places they have no moral Kelvin Mace Jan 2015 #47

Why switch to an entirely different conversation? An entirely different thread topic? braddy Jan 2015 #49

That's lovely, but not very realistic in the modern world. Adrahil Jan 2015 #57

Oh, I agree, Kelvin Mace Jan 2015 #61

I think over watch is perfectly legitimate. I never heard anyone call providing cover as immoral TheKentuckian Jan 2015 #6

Sniping used to terrorize civillain Kelvin Mace Jan 2015 #20

So what was the relation to my specific question? I gave a specific function and you come up with TheKentuckian Jan 2015 #50

A sniper can kill a target that would require a platoon-sized assault force otherwise Recursion Jan 2015 #38

I clarified my terms Kelvin Mace Jan 2015 #42

Targeting enemy officers to disrupt command and control and demoralise the enemy (n/t) Spider Jerusalem Jan 2015 #51

Once one side uses snipers for that Kelvin Mace Jan 2015 #62

It's about Chris Kyle being a braggard Matrosov Jan 2015 #63

See, my view is if being a sniper is something you brag about Kelvin Mace Jan 2015 #64

I think this movie and the attitude is disgusting gopiscrap Jan 2015 #4

Did you see the movie? awake Jan 2015 #8

Well everyone has an opinion yeoman6987 Jan 2015 #16

How about a good but not great and further from masterpiece big budget bio pic about a soldier TheKentuckian Jan 2015 #5

I haven't read the book nor have I seen the movie and will probably do neither. Arkansas Granny Jan 2015 #7

No - it is just a movie. hack89 Jan 2015 #9

Yeah, this movie happened purely by accident, totally random. Demit Jan 2015 #12

Somebody made a movie to make a bunch of money hack89 Jan 2015 #13

Did the OP suggest it was *created* as a litmus test crim son Jan 2015 #18

Perhaps on DU it has evolved but not in the real world. hack89 Jan 2015 #25

+1 Go Vols Jan 2015 #29

It's funny that this sniper movie is so hated, but all the other sniper movies were ignored braddy Jan 2015 #15

If you'd asked me when they'd come out crim son Jan 2015 #19

That sounds like someone that just doesn't like war movies, period, or historical dramas braddy Jan 2015 #22

In those films, the sniper is not the star. MADem Jan 2015 #52

It may be shenmue Jan 2015 #10

I've certainly seen it used as a Litmus test in the other direction on DU. N.T. Donald Ian Rankin Jan 2015 #11

Or maybe it is just a movie that either you enjoyed or didn't yeoman6987 Jan 2015 #14

I saw it and I enjoyed it. I don't have to spend every waking minute being political. Happyhippychick Jan 2015 #17

This guy spent his whole life trying to convince everybody what a badass he was tularetom Jan 2015 #23

Honestly the people that worship this guy as a hero for the doc03 Jan 2015 #26

Nah. It's just a movie. bigwillq Jan 2015 #27

Chris Kyle is no hero! QuebecYank Jan 2015 #28

The film paints him in a positive light hack89 Jan 2015 #31

No! QuebecYank Jan 2015 #36

Kyle was willing to sacrifice his life for others, what do you think he was doing during 4 combat braddy Jan 2015 #48

He signed up for military service. QuebecYank Jan 2015 #65

I was correcting your post about him not being willing to sacrifice his life, which is the opposite braddy Jan 2015 #67

Well if he's a hero, what do you call the nonmilitary people? QuebecYank Jan 2015 #68

Good Lord, don't you read a newspaper, heroes are all over the place, it's just that in braddy Jan 2015 #69

Yes. And my father and grandfather fought in wars, too! QuebecYank Jan 2015 #70

Don't accuse me of hero worship, accuse the military of not knowing what they mean when braddy Jan 2015 #71

The movie taps into a really unhealthy strain of sniper worship. Paladin Jan 2015 #30

did you see the sniper lover here calling another sniper "beloved"? ND-Dem Jan 2015 #45

I saw that Jamastiene Jan 2015 #56

Where was all the attention, love and flag-waving for the Hurt Locker? QuebecYank Jan 2015 #37

It got nominated for Best Picture and grossed $17 million Recursion Jan 2015 #41

But the country didn't get behind it. QuebecYank Jan 2015 #66

Terrific movie. (nt) Paladin Jan 2015 #60

I will say this about Chris Kyle... tenderfoot Jan 2015 #39

He was also a Republican AND Jamastiene Jan 2015 #53

Litmus test for whom? brooklynite Jan 2015 #54

Went to see it last night... Adrahil Jan 2015 #55

War porn. Scuba Jan 2015 #58

If it's a litmus test, then I am NOT an American and refuse to be one by those standards. alarimer Jan 2015 #59