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Fred Sanders

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10. Creeping step by step to treason, creeping fascism in America is laying the groundwork.

Reply to NoJusticeNoPeace (Original post)

Thu Jan 22, 2015, 11:25 AM

Jan 2015

Call it what you like, it is more than disrespectful and a breach of all diplomatic protocol and it is undermining the elected government in charge of international diplomacy and negotiation with Iran, and if you think it all a petty thing, then whose side are you on?

Are you with Obama and the State Department or with the GOP?

http://vineyardsaker.blogspot.ca/2014/02/creeping-fascism-or-maybe-its-just-me.html

"But the worst is not that. The worst is in the mind of people: they have accepted all this as normal and inevitable, they have embraced, whether consciously or not, the kind of creeping Fascism which permeates all of US society, on the streets and in the minds of the people.

People have accepted that we have to act like door-mats by identifying ourselves as soon as told to do so, we have to strip as soon as told so, we have to obey, move, stop, assemble, disperse, move left, move right and always always submit to any order given to us. And all that in the name of security."

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GOP's most recent version of Treason Lite [View all] NoJusticeNoPeace Jan 2015 OP

Stupid? Absolutely!!!! GGJohn Jan 2015 #1

P.S. If you chickenshit chickenhawks who are inviting a foreign leader to OPPOSE our president NoJusticeNoPeace Jan 2015 #2

Democratic reps and senators should skip it. onecaliberal Jan 2015 #3

You cant invite a foreign leader to oppose the CIC, treason lite, absolutely NoJusticeNoPeace Jan 2015 #4

Where in the Constitution does it say that? eom GGJohn Jan 2015 #6

What exactly does this have to do with race, as you claim? Just askin' NT 1bigdude Jan 2015 #5

This wouldn't dare show this kind of blatant disrespect if Obama was white starroute Jan 2015 #54

What are you talking about? onecaliberal Jan 2015 #90

breach of protocol maybe Enrique Jan 2015 #7

Egregious breach of protocol definitely, agreed, GGJohn Jan 2015 #8

John Boehner liberal from boston Jan 2015 #55

I'll say it again madokie Jan 2015 #9

Creeping step by step to treason, creeping fascism in America is laying the groundwork. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #10

But just calm down Fred, just calm down, so what if the right does shit that was NoJusticeNoPeace Jan 2015 #22

I am disgusted with the the cheerleading for failure media that only knows how to generate fear. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #25

I am disgusted with hearing shit on DU that I should only be hearing elsewhere NoJusticeNoPeace Jan 2015 #26

I hear you. Some can sense the creeping fascism and theocratic ideology, others have had their Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #27

I just ran into an OP which I thought I would ONLY see on rightwing rag boards NoJusticeNoPeace Jan 2015 #28

He is trying to negotiate PEACE with a country who could NUKE us or someone else and GOP NoJusticeNoPeace Jan 2015 #29

It's a pity that so many here on DU joshdawg Jan 2015 #48

If there was a term for treason lite, that they would be more comfortable with, I would have used NoJusticeNoPeace Jan 2015 #49

I never really bought the whole "they disagree with him because of his race" bit. It's quite 1bigdude Jan 2015 #11

HUH? Just because you never "bought"it doesn't make it not so. brush Jan 2015 #14

You are wasting your time, racism is 99.9% of opposition to Obama from the right NoJusticeNoPeace Jan 2015 #23

Thank you. Makes you wonder about posters who deny that. nt brush Jan 2015 #65

Using your theory try explaining why when he proposes programs that they have supported such jwirr Jan 2015 #46

And if the Dems had done this YarnAddict Jan 2015 #12

Oh, I'd never cheer for Mr. Bush or the gop. Just think that the constant "it's because of race" bit 1bigdude Jan 2015 #13

The point is the dems dont do this, just like with Putin, or interefering with Obama all the time NoJusticeNoPeace Jan 2015 #24

The point is that they absolutely never did this karynnj Jan 2015 #31

Calm down. Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2015 #15

No, wont calm down, this act of treason lite pisses me off, should piss off everybody NoJusticeNoPeace Jan 2015 #18

They're co-equal branches of government. It's a feature, not a bug or a break. Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2015 #21

"Treason light"? This sounds as ridiculous as the nonsense from tea partiers tritsofme Jan 2015 #16

Exactly! ColesCountyDem Jan 2015 #47

From the government's own website: former9thward Jan 2015 #17

Treason lite, as this clearly is, giving credence to a voice that is in direct opposition to NoJusticeNoPeace Jan 2015 #20

Is this treason lite? former9thward Jan 2015 #40

If he is one who is inviting a foreign leader to speak out in OPPOSITION to our efforts at NoJusticeNoPeace Jan 2015 #42

When Congress sought to cut off funding for the Vietnam War onenote Jan 2015 #56

The norm is that the WH is part of the process and the invitation karynnj Jan 2015 #33

Exactly why I added "lite" to the accusation, it is basically the closest you can get without NoJusticeNoPeace Jan 2015 #43

Back to my question onenote Jan 2015 #58

Get back to me when you can point out where they invited, OFFICIALLY a FOREIGN LEADER to NoJusticeNoPeace Jan 2015 #59

so the GOP = the Israel Lobby these days, is it? ND-Dem Jan 2015 #19

This is not treason. NuclearDem Jan 2015 #30

Purposely trying to prevent peace with a country who could nuke us isnt even treason lite? NoJusticeNoPeace Jan 2015 #32

The fuck are you on about? NuclearDem Jan 2015 #34

No, no no no no no, IRAN is who we want peace with, the person the GOP pricks are inviting NoJusticeNoPeace Jan 2015 #35

My mistake. NuclearDem Jan 2015 #37

Dont do that, please, tell me you think purposely interfering with peace negotiations isnt NoJusticeNoPeace Jan 2015 #39

I think you may have had a wee bit too much coffee this morning. NuclearDem Jan 2015 #41

Yeah, I am the problem...Not the GOP who are breaking records at disprespecting the GOP NoJusticeNoPeace Jan 2015 #44

Heaven help us if we're now opposed to one side "disrespecting" the President in matters of war and onenote Jan 2015 #68

I'm certain there is some term for this 2naSalit Jan 2015 #67

Opposition between both houses and the presidency are nothing new...and there's absolutely nothing 1bigdude Jan 2015 #36

I know there is an ignore switch here somewhere NoJusticeNoPeace Jan 2015 #38

don't care too much for differing viewpoints, I take it? Sorry to offend! nt 1bigdude Jan 2015 #45

Need some facts. Has congress ever asked a foreign leader to address them without using the jwirr Jan 2015 #50

I need to notebook your comment, you said it way better than I could, i am too NoJusticeNoPeace Jan 2015 #51

I hear you. On this one I am torn two ways. I do not like the insulting way they are dealing with jwirr Jan 2015 #53

How is inviting Netanyahu "interfering" with negotiations? onenote Jan 2015 #62

I did not say that I thought it was treason. I think it is down right insulting. jwirr Jan 2015 #63

Seditious lot, those Republicans. No bar too low for them. nt mariawr Jan 2015 #52

Treason Dinner on Day One lobodons Jan 2015 #57

Yep, that was more just outright crimes, really. Knowingly trying to destroy the economy NoJusticeNoPeace Jan 2015 #60

One of the two most heinous things Boner has done as speaker. lark Jan 2015 #61

This does not fit the Constitutional and legal definiiton of Treason. He did this 2012, 2011, 1996 Agnosticsherbet Jan 2015 #64

So using the OP's logic, all of these cases are examples of racism, no? Nt 1bigdude Jan 2015 #66

It appears that this is just about politics, American and Israeli, not treason or racism Agnosticsherbet Jan 2015 #78

The OP seems to be replying to every post except yours arcane1 Jan 2015 #79

That's OK. I have been ingnored by professionals. Agnosticsherbet Jan 2015 #80

Thom Hartmann is asking the question: Is John Boehner a traitor? SalviaBlue Jan 2015 #69

Then Thom must be some asshole radical liberal like me NoJusticeNoPeace Jan 2015 #70

Thom could answer his own question if he read Article 3 - Section 3 of the Constitution. Agnosticsherbet Jan 2015 #81

Using the "treason" word is good way to start the conversation. SalviaBlue Jan 2015 #83

If it is not treason, so using that word is using a lie to start a conversation. Agnosticsherbet Jan 2015 #86

Thom Hartmann is not knowlegable about the Logan Act at all. onenote Jan 2015 #95

To the trash can this goes... bobclark86 Jan 2015 #71

Just turn on Thom Hartmann, trash him because he is saying the same thing NoJusticeNoPeace Jan 2015 #72

I got enough of the "that's TREASON!!!!1" talk... bobclark86 Jan 2015 #82

Then he is saying stupid things. Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2015 #84

Logan Act, negotiate with foreign governments without authority, 3 yrs in prison...HMM NoJusticeNoPeace Jan 2015 #73

Dude -- Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2015 #85

Apple, meet oranges as to Pelosi, very very different, as to the other I would need more NoJusticeNoPeace Jan 2015 #87

why do you have at your fingertips something Pelosi did 8 years ago? NoJusticeNoPeace Jan 2015 #89

Lamest response ever. onenote Jan 2015 #91

I was attacked for mentioning socialism the other day, but people can defend rightwing assholes NoJusticeNoPeace Jan 2015 #92

I guess you have no response to the information provided about the Logan Act onenote Jan 2015 #93

THOM HARTMANN NoJusticeNoPeace Jan 2015 #94

Now that you know something about the Logan Act, do you have an opinion on Hartmann's argument onenote Jan 2015 #96

My opinion is the GOP is guilty of crimes, many of them, starting with the day Obama was NoJusticeNoPeace Jan 2015 #97

I have no interest in attacking Obama onenote Jan 2015 #98

Good, then we disagree, we can do that and still come together on election day NoJusticeNoPeace Jan 2015 #99

Who is negotiating with who? onenote Jan 2015 #88

This is frightening indeed malaise Jan 2015 #74

If you can, turn on Hartmann right now, wow, he is angrier than I am NoJusticeNoPeace Jan 2015 #75

OH SHIT, HARTMANN SAYS TREASON ALSO, ILL BE DARNED NoJusticeNoPeace Jan 2015 #76

Isn't the pope supposed to speak to congress about climate change soon? arcane1 Jan 2015 #77