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In reply to the discussion: "Obama to Double Down on Fast Track Push Following SOTU"--Here We Go Again... [View all]pampango
(24,692 posts)45. Do you think that China's growth would have been limited without NAFTA? 90% of China's trade is not
with the US. Trade with China is a bigger part of Germany's economy than it is of the US economy. Germany's unions and middle class are doing just fine. Our problems are internal not the fault of poor people in other countries. We can't blame our regressive taxes, little support for unions and an ineffective safety net on the Chinese or the Mexicans or the Kenyans or the Peruvians. The problem is much closer to home.
Obama promised to work to revise NAFTA to protect Worker's Rights and he hasn't ...
Assuming Obama really means to 'protect worker rights' covering them in TPP which includes Canada and Mexico would be one way to do it.
NAFTA to protect Worker's Rights and he hasn't because the cow was out of the barn and had run over the cliff since that opened the door to shipping our manufacturing overseas to China ...
NAFTA had nothing to do with China. Do you really think that China's growth would have been limited if the US and Canada had avoided a trade agreement with Mexico?
... and anywhere else where workers could be abused with substandard working conditions and wages that kept them in poverty.
"Trade agreements can be written and negotiated to raise living standards for workers and to enforce environmental protections vital to survival of the planet ..."
... the rest we won't know about because it is secret and Fast Track means none of us will know until it's signed.
No. 'Fast track' affects the ratification/rejection process, not the negotiating process.
"Fast Track means none of us will know until it's signed." Do you believe that denying 'fast track' means that we WILL know what's in it before it is signed? The negotiations have been going on in secret for years without 'fast track'. Why would the continuing lack of 'fast track' suddenly open up the negotiating process?
With 'fast track' the negotiations can be secret or they can be public. In the absence of 'fast track' the negotiations can be secret or they can be public.
IF we ever get a trade agreement that would "raise living standards for workers and to enforce environmental protections vital to survival of the planet ...", do you think it is likely that republican majorities in the House and Senate will not cut out precisely those provisions that "raise living standards for workers and to enforce environmental protections vital to survival of the planet ..." and leave in the stuff that corporations and the 1% like, if they are allowed to do so?
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"Obama to Double Down on Fast Track Push Following SOTU"--Here We Go Again... [View all]
KoKo
Jan 2015
OP
Thank You for this post. I heard Sir Goldmith give that interview when it happened....
KoKo
Jan 2015
#3
The TPP is so nasty that they will most likely pass it with bi-partisan support.
stillwaiting
Jan 2015
#13
What a great interview. He identified the major cause and effect of our current inequality crisis.
pa28
Jan 2015
#6
I have written my Senators twice on this issue. Both send me rhetoric crap in their responses.
rhett o rick
Jan 2015
#5
Does the definition of "Trade Agreement" include all of the side issues they are
rhett o rick
Jan 2015
#18
All we know is what Wikileaks has revealed because its still secret and "Fast Track"
KoKo
Jan 2015
#19
Revolting that it is constantly our job with a Democratic President. nt
woo me with science
Jan 2015
#42
I am not picking and choosing - I am saying the whole thing is a corporate coup.
djean111
Jan 2015
#31
"... "Fast Track" authority which means Senate does the vote without even seeing what's in the Trade
pampango
Jan 2015
#27
"Trade agreements can be written and negotiated to raise living standards for workers and to enforce
pampango
Jan 2015
#35
We don't. The negotiations are secret as most are. Republicans accused FDR of the same thing
pampango
Jan 2015
#41
Do you think that China's growth would have been limited without NAFTA? 90% of China's trade is not
pampango
Jan 2015
#45
The republican base does oppose the TPP and fast track. Their politicians don't care.
pampango
Jan 2015
#28
So much theater going on right now. It's bigger than a three-ring circus. nt
stillwaiting
Jan 2015
#12
Yep. Let's talk about bread bags and pretend the Republicans are our only problem.
woo me with science
Jan 2015
#22