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In reply to the discussion: Please say no to Hillary Clinton in 2016! [View all]SheilaT
(23,156 posts)First off, we went through this before. Explain to me again why she's not now halfway through her second term?
She represents nothing new, and is in fact a throwback to the worst of the "centrist Democrats" that have done all of us ill.
While supporting her is reasonably admirable, even if I don't, what is inexplicable to me is that her supporters honestly believe that she's bullet-proof because she's been thoroughly vetted because of the campaign on 2008. Are you collectively out of your minds? If she becomes the nominee, every single thing that was ever held against her in the past will be brought up again. And again. And again. Not to mention, this time around she has a record as Secretary of State. You think Benghazi is over and done with? How the Republicans will deal with it will make the swift-boating of Kerry look like a love fest.
The only way she would win the election is 1. If the Republicans nominate someone who is so genuinely unacceptable to the general voter (Romney? Paul Ryan? Rand Paul? Chris Christie?) that even more of them will stay home than Democrats 2. If in the next two years reasonably sensible voters will finally see through the hypocrisy and genuine evil intentions of the Republicans with regard to things like Social Security, Medicare, overall financial doings and start voting in their own self interest. Not that Hillary really represents the self interest of the Middle Class. She is quite firmly aligned with the corporate class, and anyone who doesn't get it is simply mistaken.
As for Elizabeth Warren, keep in mind that she was not at all keen to run for the Senate seat she now holds. Ordinary Democrats need to start going to events she's attending and tell her how much she matters to us and how important it is that she run for President.
And then we all need to be nurturing a new generation of politicians.