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46. Agreed. This charter school movement and the emphasis on testing testing testing

Fri Jan 23, 2015, 07:58 AM

Jan 2015

added to the teacher union bashing, removing tenure rights, under funding public schools while freely funding charters with no accountability in return .... all devastating the K-12 public education system.

Gates and other "reformers" are marked by their lack of any study of education or the practice of teaching and a total lack of experience of any of them IN public school classrooms. Hell, there are a number of "reformers" whose children do not or have not attended public school and they themselves have never attended public school.

Gates play in all this of course centers around his push to make computers central to "teaching" in school ... replacing teachers with computers essentially.

Its shocking to see dem administrations push these horrible "reforms". It is obscene.

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Bill and Melinda Gates have a plan for income inequality [View all] ND-Dem Jan 2015 OP

I don't want us to be the playthings of the wealthy. mucifer Jan 2015 #1

Perhaps charter schools "are having incredible success getting students into four-year colleges" Art_from_Ark Jan 2015 #2

Most charter schools can't hand-select the people who are admitted jmowreader Jan 2015 #27

The secret is that children whose parents apply for places in charter schools probably come from JDPriestly Jan 2015 #29

That's the theory, at least Art_from_Ark Jan 2015 #31

"They made their money by oppressing others" brooklynite Jan 2015 #50

The Chinese factories. Shipping jobs overseas has also done a lot of damage to people here. mucifer Jan 2015 #54

They don't make money building computers; they make money writing software brooklynite Jan 2015 #56

They didn't create DOS, they bought it and rebranded it. Trillo Jan 2015 #55

k&r ND-Dem Jan 2015 #59

Sounds like they are getting a bit nervous about what the people are finding out. sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #3

don't worry. you don't have to worry about receiving the Gates' charity magical thyme Jan 2015 #53

+100. and we can guess why; africa is the next china, so gotta lay the ground. people like ND-Dem Jan 2015 #61

So I see multiple negative comments here about their wealth, and nothing about what they're doing kysrsoze Jan 2015 #4

and yet both buffett and gates just keep getting richer. don't you find it odd? ND-Dem Jan 2015 #6

What's your point? Everything else is moot? And BTW - your statement is incorrect. See link: kysrsoze Jan 2015 #8

Huh? Even Forbes (magazine of capitalist pig wanna-bes) says gates' wealth is up. ND-Dem Jan 2015 #11

And again, what's your point? Would you just as soon see them quit the philanthropy? kysrsoze Jan 2015 #13

Yes, I'd gladly trade their philanthropy (much of which has two faces, ulterior motives, etc) for ND-Dem Jan 2015 #16

I'd rather see philanthropy AND a complete rewrite of the American/global capitalistic economic syst kysrsoze Jan 2015 #23

Big money is always made off someone else's back. ND-Dem Jan 2015 #26

charter schools are often for profit entities that suck money from the public school fund, and liberal_at_heart Jan 2015 #7

"Often" being the key word. They're not all run as for-profit ventures. kysrsoze Jan 2015 #9

more often than not especially the newest ones. It's the new hot business. They saw they potential liberal_at_heart Jan 2015 #10

I competely agree with you there. That was not the original intention kysrsoze Jan 2015 #12

something I think that today's educational experts especially American ones don't get is that liberal_at_heart Jan 2015 #15

lots of ways to make money off non-profits. like by charging high 'rent' for your own properties, ND-Dem Jan 2015 #62

Thank You TBA Jan 2015 #28

They're already hoarding their money. Foundations are one of the ways they hoard it. I'd ND-Dem Jan 2015 #30

Yes, exactly. kcr Jan 2015 #51

Philanthropy is important, but as one who has written a lot of grants to both private foundations, JDPriestly Jan 2015 #32

Gates screwed US workers over and over again FLPanhandle Jan 2015 #47

screw Bill Gates and his charter school movement. liberal_at_heart Jan 2015 #5

Agreed. This charter school movement and the emphasis on testing testing testing wavesofeuphoria Jan 2015 #46

they grow wealthier as they have investments. the gates have made a huge positive difference in the La Lioness Priyanka Jan 2015 #14

It actively works against some level of income equality, you mean. It's the reason the world ND-Dem Jan 2015 #17

no, i dont think philanthropy actively works against income equality La Lioness Priyanka Jan 2015 #19

Funny that there have been two historical periods in the US in which philanthropy played an outsized ND-Dem Jan 2015 #21

two things can happen at the same time without being causal. La Lioness Priyanka Jan 2015 #22

They can -- but not in this case. And if you read the history of the origins of the big foundations, ND-Dem Jan 2015 #25

And is that cause or effect? brooklynite Jan 2015 #52

its effect unless you believe in giant conspiracies. La Lioness Priyanka Jan 2015 #66

We must approach income inequality by increasing funding for all education, get rid of the minimum liberal_at_heart Jan 2015 #18

yes, you are right on all accounts. La Lioness Priyanka Jan 2015 #20

I agree as well. kysrsoze Jan 2015 #24

So you prefer the model of give all your shit away today. dilby Jan 2015 #33

Is that what happened under roosevelt? OK then, I like it. ND-Dem Jan 2015 #34

You are making zero sense. dilby Jan 2015 #35

I think you missed the point ND-Dem Jan 2015 #36

Then that is your fault. dilby Jan 2015 #37

is it? i disagree. the gates don't bitch about taxes; they just buy politicians who'll help them ND-Dem Jan 2015 #38

Yeah I will need a bedtime story since dilby Jan 2015 #40

lol ND-Dem Jan 2015 #42

unless they say their taxes should be 75%. STFU. pansypoo53219 Jan 2015 #39

I agree, their taxes should be 75% and they should stfu. ND-Dem Jan 2015 #41

How is this different from "trickle down"? Smarmie Doofus Jan 2015 #43

+100 ND-Dem Jan 2015 #64

"Just make more"? JHB Jan 2015 #44

hey, that's what h1bs are for! they don't need no 'pay raises' ND-Dem Jan 2015 #63

I've often wondered how generous these philanthropists would be bulloney Jan 2015 #45

They never seem to help anyone real. nilesobek Jan 2015 #48

+100. ND-Dem Jan 2015 #57

It always seems to make the poor folk feel like beggars, doesn't it? Vinca Jan 2015 #49

+100 ND-Dem Jan 2015 #58

I think they're goodhearted people and their work improves lives. HOWEVER - Avalux Jan 2015 #60

bill gates has proven in his business dealings he's a shark. he remains a shark. he's not going ND-Dem Jan 2015 #65

We're saying the same thing I think. Avalux Jan 2015 #67

except that sharks aren't good-hearted. ND-Dem Jan 2015 #68