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kwassa

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67. I don't like guns either, and see no need for gun ownership.

Fri Jan 23, 2015, 10:50 AM

Jan 2015

I would have no problem with them being completely outlawed.

BUT ..

Gun culture is very ingrained in American culture and the idea that it will change anytime soon is extremely unlikely. I don't spend time on gun threads, generally, for that reason.

This is about guns and race, though.

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White man astonished to be arrested for attacking a black man. [View all] Savannahmann Jan 2015 OP

I'd say your assessment is as stereotyped as Foster's... brooklynite Jan 2015 #1

Let me see now malaise Jan 2015 #3

Different county...different age group of victim brooklynite Jan 2015 #7

It's Florida marym625 Jan 2015 #9

#FloridaMan jayschool Jan 2015 #25

Florida. tblue Jan 2015 #27

makes 2 of us marym625 Jan 2015 #61

Same individual and institutional malaise Jan 2015 #21

It was the idea of black ppl having guns tblue Jan 2015 #30

+1 lunasun Jan 2015 #102

The nation needs a complete do over of why it has so many guns, the logic has been turned on Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #105

You got served B! Rex Jan 2015 #23

+1 uponit7771 Jan 2015 #191

But but but LOL sometimes you have to laugh, my friend, otherwise NoJusticeNoPeace Jan 2015 #129

Agreed malaise Jan 2015 #170

it's called history. trumad Jan 2015 #4

I'd say, since it's Florida and given the history of Florida, mountain grammy Jan 2015 #60

everyones just shooting blanks (sic) looking for a racist angle PatrynXX Jan 2015 #68

Yes, because attacking a black man for assumed criminality F4lconF16 Jan 2015 #169

We will soon know. roody Jan 2015 #175

Yep...nt Jesus Malverde Jan 2015 #182

That asshole deserves a year locked away... Glengoolie Jan 2015 #2

but he had a scary holstered gun. ileus Jan 2015 #112

Maybe it was one of those scary 'ghost guns' I've heard so much about... Glengoolie Jan 2015 #125

Shoot 100 rounds a second from the clipazine bullet holder thing. ileus Jan 2015 #164

Oh, yeah, real fucking irrational. Arugula Latte Jan 2015 #124

what if Daniel's was a cop... trumad Jan 2015 #5

I'm about as anti gun as anyone around here. Savannahmann Jan 2015 #10

Just goes to show.... sendero Jan 2015 #17

I think someone must first possess... Whiskeytide Jan 2015 #35

Let me ask you, is this comment racist? oneshooter Jan 2015 #127

"Racism World Collides With GunNut World".....that is never going to be pretty. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #132

If it were up to me tblue Jan 2015 #41

Excellent! mountain grammy Jan 2015 #69

Guns make everyone just a little bit more stupid, and racists more racist. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #86

Putting the gun issue aside that we agree on, if the guy was white we arent talking about NoJusticeNoPeace Jan 2015 #131

You can not put the gun issue aside. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #135

I know, the base problem is guns. And we need to enforce the 2nd amendment NoJusticeNoPeace Jan 2015 #138

Thanks. You might like post #41 in this thread. Powerful words. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #143

Should be the national sentiment! Great video. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #134

The lesson once again is you can NOT tell the good guy with a gun from the bad guy with a gun. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #51

"you can NOT tell the good guy with a gun from the bad guy with a gun." Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2015 #165

One picture pulled from the Internet? I bow to your superior argument...??? Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #166

Well, 1 point of argument exceeds your usual count by 1. However, if you think that is the only 1 Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2015 #186

Don't get mad, post another picture to complete your argument. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #187

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To be perfectly clear I have as much respect for the NRA and its apologists such as your self as Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #196

The right to self defense existed before and will exist after the NRA. Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2015 #197

Yeah,if Clarence was FBI or a marshall easychoice Jan 2015 #177

Why would someone carry a gun into Walmart? oberliner Jan 2015 #6

My coworker carries his exboyfil Jan 2015 #12

Interesting oberliner Jan 2015 #32

I have two co-workers who brag about carrying everywhere... Pacifist Patriot Jan 2015 #159

I have a friend in our Charlotte office leftynyc Jan 2015 #14

Wow - this is just so alien to me oberliner Jan 2015 #33

Oh - I know several leftynyc Jan 2015 #42

Are you in NYC? oberliner Jan 2015 #52

Work in the city leftynyc Jan 2015 #65

I didn't think I did either. Pacifist Patriot Jan 2015 #160

That has happened to me several times also, turns out people I never expected to uppityperson Jan 2015 #171

I live in Charlotte, and cwydro Jan 2015 #70

I know that leftynyc Jan 2015 #74

Indeed. cwydro Jan 2015 #82

We're a small private company leftynyc Jan 2015 #87

Lol. cwydro Jan 2015 #95

Why would someone go to a Walmart? dumbcat Jan 2015 #85

I'm stuck on that too! JustAnotherGen Jan 2015 #93

Things are really really cheap oberliner Jan 2015 #149

Never heard of this, you say? Really? NoJusticeNoPeace Jan 2015 #137

Do these photos not strike you as insane? oberliner Jan 2015 #148

That isnt the point, is it. The point is there is a seemingly endless array of pics and stories of NoJusticeNoPeace Jan 2015 #150

Yeah I have no idea oberliner Jan 2015 #151

I think defending myself from racists would be a good reason, actually n/t bobclark86 Jan 2015 #188

You are going to shoot a racist at Walmart? oberliner Jan 2015 #189

Well, as I'm not a black guy getting tackled for some random reason, it's not an issue. n/t bobclark86 Jan 2015 #190

Why would he think he would be arrested? marym625 Jan 2015 #8

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Really? kydo Jan 2015 #58

Thank you kindly. n/t marym625 Jan 2015 #80

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Are you seriously saying this? marym625 Jan 2015 #64

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was nice knowing ya marym625 Jan 2015 #181

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What's the weather like on that planet you're from? MrScorpio Jan 2015 #71

Ha! marym625 Jan 2015 #77

It's pretty obvious what his agenda is nt MrScorpio Jan 2015 #81

Looks like I missed a racist posting garbage. We can get insulated here at DU where outright NoJusticeNoPeace Jan 2015 #142

so true marym625 Jan 2015 #156

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+1 uponit7771 Jan 2015 #192

The solution for having reasonable gun laws passed is to arm all the black men . . . legally. Vinca Jan 2015 #11

You forgot the sarcasm emoticon. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #88

Maybe I wasn't being sarcastic. Vinca Jan 2015 #161

You forgot it again. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #162

The idiot almost took down a couple kids too. cwydro Jan 2015 #13

I wonder what would have leftynyc Jan 2015 #15

Another lesson learned from this story: Dr. Strange Jan 2015 #16

I saw that Duckhunter935 Jan 2015 #18

Whaaaa? Capt. Obvious Jan 2015 #34

Yup, right here. GGJohn Jan 2015 #76

"a lot of Du'ers?" mountain grammy Jan 2015 #84

Citizens everywhere carrying firearms, concealed or not, is also the story here. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #89

Yes, it is. In Colorado we've been cursed with several mass killings. mountain grammy Jan 2015 #97

Guns everywhere are stirring up all kinds of shit everywhere from legislatures to malls to racism. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #98

Racism would exist without guns. HappyMe Jan 2015 #99

Guns are out of control, that's why we need gun control.... mountain grammy Jan 2015 #100

I see a guy with a gun, no matter the race, I go the other way to a phone. What are the odds that Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #101

Really? Go to a phone? HappyMe Jan 2015 #111

Is this some kind of deep thought technique because it is rather shallow? Serious question. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #116

Yes a lot... sarisataka Jan 2015 #104

I did read those, and there are a few.. mountain grammy Jan 2015 #118

No gun, no incident, everyone has a pleasant day in the Sunshine State........not Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #120

Is a bear on your deck bad? sarisataka Jan 2015 #123

Ha, only if he decides to come into the house.. mountain grammy Jan 2015 #139

Gunner talk to distract you from the fact we should be talking about The Gun? Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #146

Example sarisataka Jan 2015 #152

Doesn't calling that "pre-crime" violence presume a crime will be committed? mountain grammy Jan 2015 #154

I say pre-crime sarisataka Jan 2015 #155

This pre-crime stuff is dangerous. If you carry mace defensively is that pre-crime? appalachiablue Jan 2015 #198

few = too many uponit7771 Jan 2015 #193

be careful; that thread is full of gun humpers ND-Dem Jan 2015 #130

Like a mini-invasion, what could have suddenly stirred them up? Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #141

Only one was arrested? BklnDem75 Jan 2015 #19

It has become shocking to hear of an incident of justice in the USA. Enthusiast Jan 2015 #20

I hate guns ....... polly7 Jan 2015 #22

It is a Crime ... 4Q2u2 Jan 2015 #24

Ironically, Foster may have saved Daniel's life..... WcoastO Jan 2015 #26

That's what I was thinking, too... freebrew Jan 2015 #37

Hahaha. This story was posted on DU a few days ago with a totally different spin. DetlefK Jan 2015 #28

Yes, in the Gun RKGB forum he is the hero for tackling an "irresponsible" gun owner who did Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #46

Glad to see you keeping up your tradition of evidence-free posts friendly_iconoclast Jan 2015 #199

Do adults attack each other a lot in your country? knightmaar Jan 2015 #29

America is a paranoid nation due to guns and media terrorism. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #53

there were 3 others involved also SHRED Jan 2015 #31

No one should be carrying around guns Wabbajack_ Jan 2015 #36

^^^^^^^^^^^^BINGO^^^^^^^^^^^ Game Over. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #54

It's legal in every state to carry a gun with a permit, GGJohn Jan 2015 #103

'Old gentleman'? ColesCountyDem Jan 2015 #38

I didn't read anywhere where the white guy was "astonished". SHRED Jan 2015 #40

What racist arrogance. I hope they fine him heavily. kwassa Jan 2015 #43

It was as much as to do with the fear of the gun as race. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #45

No, it was fear of a black man with a gun. kwassa Jan 2015 #48

Yes, it was exactly that. HappyMe Jan 2015 #59

Yes. No gun, no incident. Race played a part, the gun another, fear media another. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #90

It was fear of a black man with a gun. HappyMe Jan 2015 #92

This message was self-deleted by its author Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #94

What? HappyMe Jan 2015 #96

Wrong......again, GGJohn Jan 2015 #83

That's what I was thinking. bravenak Jan 2015 #157

I doubt he'd be around to be charged, as delete_bush Jan 2015 #163

Should be tackling everyone with a gun wandering around....like the Lone Ranger because....reasons. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #44

"he should have broken his damn arms..." hack89 Jan 2015 #49

No idea what you are saying. None. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #55

You advocate violence against gun owners. What level of violence is acceptable to you? hack89 Jan 2015 #57

Again no idea how you get from A to Z. Your logic is imperfect. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #63

So tackling gun owners in public is not a violent act? It is not assault? hack89 Jan 2015 #73

No idea what you are saying for the third time...Is there an "attempt" limit? Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #75

Do you think people should tackle gun owners in public? nt hack89 Jan 2015 #79

I say, with all the politness I can muster sarisataka Jan 2015 #107

Again, no idea what you are talking about........ Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #117

Sometimes what is not said sarisataka Jan 2015 #144

Again, no idea....you need to be more clear, with all due respect, sir. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #147

No need sarisataka Jan 2015 #153

sorry, this story doesn't fit your scenario. kwassa Jan 2015 #50

No one should be having a gun, you are very, very mistaken with your trigger happy conclusions. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #56

I don't like guns either, and see no need for gun ownership. kwassa Jan 2015 #67

"When is it going to be clear that these killing machines are rightly feared by all?" beevul Jan 2015 #172

When unhinged nutcases start attacking people Abq_Sarah Jan 2015 #173

You should not be calling carry concealed gun owners who negligently unconceal in public such names. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #174

Mr. Daniels is lucky to be alive! MoonRiver Jan 2015 #47

Was he more in fear of the gun being flashed, accidently, or the person? Is the evidence clear on Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #62

I seriously doubt that guy was an anti-gun vigilante. MoonRiver Jan 2015 #66

I agree with that, was another frightened American on high alert for terrorists. Being black was Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #72

Personally, I think it was just your run of the mill racist, MoonRiver Jan 2015 #91

My goodness, what is this world coming to? nt MrScorpio Jan 2015 #78

IMHO, the fault, dear Brutus, lies in our INSANE GUN LAWS. Carrying a gun in a store?? WTH?! WinkyDink Jan 2015 #106

So why not simply notify store security? hack89 Jan 2015 #108

Oh, I 100% agree with you! But the LAW would have Security do NOTHING. WinkyDink Jan 2015 #114

Yep. Concealed gun owner is legal, so the gun holder walks away and sues the mall..... Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #121

If they were concerned the malls and the stores would simply ban guns on their premises hack89 Jan 2015 #126

So Gun Free Zones DO work? "No Go Gun Zones" by private business?? Link? Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #128

Gun Free Zones will never stop someone willing to break the law hack89 Jan 2015 #133

As long as the store permits concealed carry on their premises hack89 Jan 2015 #122

Odd that THIS gun thread doesn't get locked... Bonobo Jan 2015 #109

I did see it yesterday sarisataka Jan 2015 #113

I would prefer NO gun threads in GD. HappyMe Jan 2015 #115

It is a gun thread NOW, isn't it? Or is it? Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #119

wan't much discussing or time to object from looking at the video. ileus Jan 2015 #110

K&R Tsiyu Jan 2015 #136

Racist idiot.. HipChick Jan 2015 #140

See post # 41 please, worth the time investment. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #145

why bother? HipChick Jan 2015 #158

I'm just glad the attacker was a moron. Xyzse Jan 2015 #167

The black guy would be in jail if he shot his attacker in self defense nakocal Jan 2015 #168

+100 roody Jan 2015 #176

wonk-wonk-wonnnnnnk Stephen Retired Jan 2015 #183

Did Foster violate Daniel's civil rights by profiling him? Kaleva Jan 2015 #184

The fact that four other people intervened in a situation based on the word of Foster davidpdx Jan 2015 #194