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In reply to the discussion: YES!!! -- House & Senate Democrats Introduce 12 Bills Targeted at Campaign Finance Reform [View all]1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)34. Yes, I have ...
Nothing that you've said has done anything to justify why Dems didn't propose this legislation at any time previously during Obama's (or Bush's, for that matter).
Right here:
Question: But republicans will block it now! What's the difference?
Answer: The 2016 elections! If these Bills had been introduced at any time before now ... they would be long forgotten by election day 2016. By doing it now, every Democratic candidate has a ready made campaign issue and every republican candidate is on the defensive. And, as an added bonus, introducing it now will affect the 2016 primaries, forcing Democratic primary candidates to pick a side on the issue!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6122833
Answer: The 2016 elections! If these Bills had been introduced at any time before now ... they would be long forgotten by election day 2016. By doing it now, every Democratic candidate has a ready made campaign issue and every republican candidate is on the defensive. And, as an added bonus, introducing it now will affect the 2016 primaries, forcing Democratic primary candidates to pick a side on the issue!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6122833
In this very thread.
And, predictably, DU is tripping over itself with delight at the Dems' new display of alleged legislative courage, when in fact it's nothing more than election-prep posturing.
Yes ... It is election-prep, and maybe even posturing; however, it is a necessary step if Democrats ever hope to see the majorities required to pass the legislation that we want to see passed.
It seems that many are happy placing Democrats in a critical double bind ... when Democrats don't introduce legislation, they are feckless, despite the calculation that the legislation can't pass; when Democrats do introduce legislation, with the same can't pass calculation, they are disingenuous posers ... they should have done it earlier.
But I guess it's better to do a show bill that shows "spine"; but, accomplishes nothing, than do a show bill that sets the stage to elect Democrats.
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YES!!! -- House & Senate Democrats Introduce 12 Bills Targeted at Campaign Finance Reform [View all]
KoKo
Jan 2015
OP
How is presenting proposals going nowhere supposed to offset or make for something actually passed?
TheKentuckian
Jan 2015
#31
The fact they will not pass the GOP Congress has nothing to with what good ideas they are.
Fred Sanders
Jan 2015
#4
They had the ideas all along, this is procedurally a different thing to bring a vote to the Senate floor on a
Fred Sanders
Jan 2015
#8
Thank you. If folks only knew what a piece of judicial crap CU was , from every angle, not just
Fred Sanders
Jan 2015
#14
Thanks. Good thing the context was in the same line, can not afford another misunderstanding.
Fred Sanders
Jan 2015
#19
Where were these ideas in 2009 and 2010? Why didn't they secure voting rights then?
Scuba
Jan 2015
#46
Wouldn't that view require dems to have not changed or learned anything since 2009?
HereSince1628
Jan 2015
#47