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57. Very good points. I have an answer on one of them.

Fri Jan 23, 2015, 02:16 PM

Jan 2015

QB's have a very specific way they want the main football to be. Yes the refs try to keep the same ball in play as much as possible for each team. Brad Johnson - won a Super Bowl at Tampa- has admitted that he paid someone $100 a game to deflate footballs to his liking. Matt Lienart - Heisman winner, partied his way out if the league- has said that every QB in the league doctored the main football in some way except Kurt Warner - he wore a glove.

The reason the NFL doesn't do the sensible thing of just having a random mix of footballs is because the league wants more scoring.

Now the NFL did institute the K ball for kickers and punters because they had gone crazy doctoring the footballs. They each would have their go to ball that might be overinflated or even microwaved ( I think to make the leather thinner - never understood that one).

These are just tricks of the trade that are normally just "not seen" officially. Like pitchers late in the season cheating up an inch or two so they don't actually step off the rubber or basketball players contesting a shot nicking the elbow of the shooter as they go up. Little tricks like that.

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It's not about football, dang it. [View all] DiverDave Jan 2015 OP

I honestly cannot get worked up over this. Adrahil Jan 2015 #1

Doesn't matter if you like pro sports or not joeglow3 Jan 2015 #5

Wanna get worked up over cheating? Adrahil Jan 2015 #7

I am able to identify cheating in multiple areas. joeglow3 Jan 2015 #11

huh, I just asked that very question DiverDave Jan 2015 #12

<high five> n/t Adrahil Jan 2015 #73

If millions of people will now cheat because some upaloopa Jan 2015 #53

So, we ignore acts because no single event could trigger change? joeglow3 Jan 2015 #54

I don't give a shit about footballs inflated or not. upaloopa Jan 2015 #55

It is a multi billion dollar business that is cheating to manipulate results joeglow3 Jan 2015 #59

It isn't important no matter how many billions upaloopa Jan 2015 #63

This message was self-deleted by its author guyton Jan 2015 #62

cant you see that it aint about sports? DiverDave Jan 2015 #8

If you're not cheating, you're not trying. aikoaiko Jan 2015 #2

Yup. Agschmid Jan 2015 #3

I think you are completely wrong on point Jan 2015 #13

What we say and what we do are very different. aikoaiko Jan 2015 #20

Obviously you don't understand what personal integrity means on point Jan 2015 #38

Of course I understand integrity, but I'm not buying your glory days of yore myth aikoaiko Jan 2015 #46

Once you know who cheated let me know... Agschmid Jan 2015 #4

The organization cheated. Doesn't matter if you can pinpoint who. joeglow3 Jan 2015 #14

If by the organization you mean the NFL then sure. Agschmid Jan 2015 #15

Ohhh. So the patriots can't help it and HAVE to cheat joeglow3 Jan 2015 #16

Well if you think this is such a big deal... Agschmid Jan 2015 #17

Seems like Patriots apologists refuse to admit cheating joeglow3 Jan 2015 #26

I'm absolutely NOT a Patriots apologist... Agschmid Jan 2015 #32

Most of us can walk and chew gum at the same time joeglow3 Jan 2015 #33

I'm done. Agschmid Jan 2015 #34

Rumor is the Ravens tipped people off. joeglow3 Jan 2015 #37

Nah I mean I've only done it the last two games. Agschmid Jan 2015 #40

I think you may set a record for most defense mechanisms in one thread joeglow3 Jan 2015 #43

Well I try. Agschmid Jan 2015 #64

I guess you didnt get my drift DiverDave Jan 2015 #19

Did someone cheat here? Agschmid Jan 2015 #22

But we DO know an organization cheated and many want to ignore it. joeglow3 Jan 2015 #27

Yup the entire NFL. Agschmid Jan 2015 #30

And yet, it didn't manifest itself in the Colts balls joeglow3 Jan 2015 #31

Ever Hear of Suck for Luck 4Q2u2 Jan 2015 #68

Again, I am confident you know how weak your rationalization is. joeglow3 Jan 2015 #72

I get your drift, DiverDave Skittles Jan 2015 #66

Nailed it. We now have a culture of cheating. on point Jan 2015 #6

+1 Botany Jan 2015 #9

it's actually all about the bass. trumad Jan 2015 #10

gone fishin' Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2015 #21

Gone and it's sad? sharp_stick Jan 2015 #18

This. Agschmid Jan 2015 #23

good post trumad Jan 2015 #24

Agreed entirely IDemo Jan 2015 #25

WOW! laugh away. DiverDave Jan 2015 #28

I didn't see someone excusing the use of drugs joeglow3 Jan 2015 #29

I never said he excused the use of drugs sharp_stick Jan 2015 #42

Post removed Post removed Jan 2015 #45

Then you shouldn't make it about football sharp_stick Jan 2015 #49

Uh, well. progressoid Jan 2015 #35

I get what you're saying, but it's not like I'd expect any integrity from professional sports Arugula Latte Jan 2015 #36

I guess my title wasnt clear DiverDave Jan 2015 #47

That would be the entire point. jeff47 Jan 2015 #48

It was never there Kurska Jan 2015 #39

It's about the entertainment industry and sales. Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2015 #41

Cheating or sabotage? bluedigger Jan 2015 #44

I have a lot of questions about this too. Pacifist Patriot Jan 2015 #50

There's plenty of reasonable doubt to throw around thanks to the NFL's lack of transparency. bluedigger Jan 2015 #56

Sting OP 4Q2u2 Jan 2015 #69

Very good points. I have an answer on one of them. underpants Jan 2015 #57

I thought it was about balls underpants Jan 2015 #51

The two greatest things to come out of this has got to be... Pacifist Patriot Jan 2015 #52

it is! KMOD Jan 2015 #71

You're absolutely right. KamaAina Jan 2015 #58

Do you consider ALL rule violations cheating? missingthebigdog Jan 2015 #60

Yup. Agschmid Jan 2015 #65

It's about football. n/t zappaman Jan 2015 #61

Thought I'd add this to drive it home.... Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2015 #67

Corruption is Kool. GeorgeGist Jan 2015 #70