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84. Thanks for the video post

Sat Jan 24, 2015, 01:06 PM

Jan 2015

Guess it proves that the deflated ball flies half an inch less I guess?

The people responsible for the deflation of the balls knew none of that of course.

In the cold those balls get hard as hell, and the rain makes them even harder to grip so what they were

probably after was a softer ball that would be able to be grasped better for throwing.

ESPN had a live demo on with a properly inflated ball, an overly inflated one and an under inflated ball.

Mark Brunell, the ex-Jacksonville QB and Jerome "the Bus" Bettis, the ex-Steelers running back were the testers.

Neither was told which ball was which but both picked the under inflated ball out immediately.

Brunell noted that the under inflated ball was easier to indent with finger pressure and thus easier to throw.

Bettis caught a pass from Brunell and felt there was no difference in catching the balls but the under inflated ball was softer and thus easier for him to hold onto as a running back.

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OMG - this football thing is out of hand. [View all] NutmegYankee Jan 2015 OP

Someone get the Pats' balls in hand! NuclearDem Jan 2015 #1

Yawn GeorgeGist Jan 2015 #2

And this didn't happen to the Colt's balls why? jberryhill Jan 2015 #3

They didn't inflate them with hot air? NutmegYankee Jan 2015 #4

Same air is used for both. eom MohRokTah Jan 2015 #6

They were inflated somewhere else? jberryhill Jan 2015 #9

Or they used helium in the Colts balls AgingAmerican Jan 2015 #35

Recalling when Ray Guy�s kicking football was tested for helium Go Vols Jan 2015 #66

Okay, so put this together for me jberryhill Jan 2015 #45

honestly? NutmegYankee Jan 2015 #51

The act of compressing the air heats it dumbcat Jan 2015 #61

Two things jberryhill Jan 2015 #62

Very good dumbcat Jan 2015 #63

"Would not the temp of the air going into the later inflated balls be lower?" jberryhill Jan 2015 #64

It depends, as you say dumbcat Jan 2015 #65

Let's assume a constant volume jberryhill Jan 2015 #68

OK, but don't laugh dumbcat Jan 2015 #69

Can I at least chuckle? jberryhill Jan 2015 #74

Maybe they were inflated at the higher end of the range???? Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2015 #34

Your thought is wrong. MohRokTah Jan 2015 #5

I doubt that very much. NutmegYankee Jan 2015 #7

The home team provides all 24 balls. MohRokTah Jan 2015 #8

No, each team provides their own 12 balls. NutmegYankee Jan 2015 #12

And the NFL HAS ruled out temperature as a factor in the matter. eom MohRokTah Jan 2015 #14

Yawn. NutmegYankee Jan 2015 #16

Heh, can't take the truth. eom MohRokTah Jan 2015 #17

I'm sure they did a real thorough investigation to state that, just like they did with Peterson... NutmegYankee Jan 2015 #19

Cheatriots are cheaters. MohRokTah Jan 2015 #25

Ah. Now we get to the matter at hand. NutmegYankee Jan 2015 #26

Precisely, deflating the balls is the second time the cheaters were caught cheating. MohRokTah Jan 2015 #27

I was thinking more along the lines of hate. NutmegYankee Jan 2015 #28

No hate. MohRokTah Jan 2015 #29

Good luck proving that. NutmegYankee Jan 2015 #30

The NFL already have. eom MohRokTah Jan 2015 #32

The fact that Belichick is now pointing fingers at Brady AgingAmerican Jan 2015 #37

Some poor worker at the bottom will get the blame. MohRokTah Jan 2015 #38

Here's the Perpetrator! NBachers Jan 2015 #46

He did not. former9thward Jan 2015 #52

If your theory were true, they would have announced it days ago. pnwmom Jan 2015 #49

Do you have a link to that statement? Justice Jan 2015 #77

here ya go, Nutmeg KMOD Jan 2015 #10

Thanks! That was really interesting... petronius Jan 2015 #18

You are very welcome. KMOD Jan 2015 #31

Agree. Thanks for the link. earthside Jan 2015 #39

yup. KMOD Jan 2015 #40

Next thing you know football players will be taking steroids. B Calm Jan 2015 #11

I think many are confusing PSI with actual weight differences that can be sensed. NRaleighLiberal Jan 2015 #13

I know. Nearly impossible to feel the difference. NutmegYankee Jan 2015 #15

The haters remind me of the IRS - guilty until proven innocent. Oh well - makes me laugh. NRaleighLiberal Jan 2015 #20

It's not just that. NutmegYankee Jan 2015 #21

lol, ok KMOD Jan 2015 #24

There ya go with that sciencey thing again! AgingAmerican Jan 2015 #43

I know, right? KMOD Jan 2015 #44

And yet Tom Brady, a perfectionist, says the perfect number is 12.5. pnwmom Jan 2015 #50

He's not talking about the weight of the ball pipi_k Jan 2015 #60

If he's so innocent, why isn't he begging for a real investigation to let him off the hook? pnwmom Jan 2015 #67

He's kind of busy this week. bluedigger Jan 2015 #70

The difference is in the hardness of the ball. brush Jan 2015 #78

thanks Lefta Dissenter Jan 2015 #41

pssst KMOD Jan 2015 #48

Well, Lefta Dissenter Jan 2015 #53

Nah, KMOD Jan 2015 #54

The issue is not the weight dpibel Jan 2015 #56

that is indeed the issue, but that is getting lost in much of the coverage NRaleighLiberal Jan 2015 #59

An underinflated ball also flies shorter and slower. bluedigger Jan 2015 #71

Where's the zone? dpibel Jan 2015 #72

Hence the 12th ball. bluedigger Jan 2015 #73

you do realize you are making the case for the prosecution rufus dog Jan 2015 #75

Maybe if kicked but I doubt that with a thrown ball. nt brush Jan 2015 #79

Because the means of propulsion makes a difference... how? bluedigger Jan 2015 #81

The rebound effect when the ball is compressed by being kicked brush Jan 2015 #82

Good answer! bluedigger Jan 2015 #83

Thanks for the video post brush Jan 2015 #84

No problem. bluedigger Jan 2015 #85

I agree. They can't really do anything this close to the Super Bowl. brush Jan 2015 #87

Uhmmm. Brady & Belicheat's wife was breast feeding a baby in an Olive Garden madinmaryland Jan 2015 #22

Yeah, but was the baby circumcised? NutmegYankee Jan 2015 #23

Circumcised by a Pit Bull undeterred Jan 2015 #33

Yes. With an Asian woodcarver!! madinmaryland Jan 2015 #57

Was she smoking? jmowreader Jan 2015 #55

And this strikes me as part of why I loathe sports culture. Care to explain to me why that is Bluenorthwest Jan 2015 #80

Interesting information. oldandhappy Jan 2015 #36

I have found this footage, direct from the Commissioner's office... Buns_of_Fire Jan 2015 #42

Go Hawks! flying rabbit Jan 2015 #47

They sound guilty as hell. nilesobek Jan 2015 #58

Heat could also be applied externally. "Conditioning" and "warming up" of balls is... Faryn Balyncd Jan 2015 #76

And in other news, the NFL vows to suspend Marshawn Lynch for the wrong color shoes. n/t lumberjack_jeff Jan 2015 #86