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sabrina 1

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Sat Jan 24, 2015, 01:30 PM Jan 2015

Boehner used like a puppet on a string by Netanyahu who initiated the now disastrous 'invitation' [View all]

We are learning that Boehner allowed his anger towards President Obama to be used by Bibi for his own interests.

This, imo, makes Boehner a threat to our National Security.

When someone is entrusted with the power to act on behalf of the American people but succumbs to the manipulations of a Foreign Leader, then acts on behalf of a Foreign Nation and against the interests of his own nation, shouldn't there be some kind of investigation into whether or not this person can be trusted with that kind of power?


War v Peace? The world appears to agree with those seeking a peaceful solution. Netanyahu and his Republican co-conspirators have become a threat to world peace.

Behind Obama's back: How Netanyahu's U.S. trip was cooked up

A senior Israeli official with knowledge of the contacts, who wished to remain anonymous due to the sensitivity of the matter, said that the one who had initiated the contacts with Boehner and with Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell and their staffs was Israeli Ambassador to the United States Ron Dermer, Netanyahu's former aide.

Dermer, the senior official said, had advanced the idea of Netanyahu addressing Congress in talks he has been having for several weeks on Iran's nuclear program with senior members of Congress. Dermer is encouraging senators and representatives to advance new legislation that would impose additional sanctions on Iran, contrary to the position of the White House, which believes that new sanctions at this time would undermine the talks and kill the chances of reaching a diplomatic solution. During his State of the Union Address Tuesday night Obama made it clear that he would veto any such legislation.

According to the senior official, Dermer approached Boehner, McConnell and other senior Republican Party figures at Netanyahu’s behest and suggested the idea of the speech. “Dermer and Boehner cooked up this whole invitation to Congress,” the official said.


Boehner and Bibi didn't just cause outrage at the WH. The backlash is coming from everywhere, including the five nations who have been working with President Obama to find a peaceful solution to the Iranian Nuclear issue.

The UK, France & Germany Co-Write WaPo Op-Ed Begging Goposaurs Not to Sabotage Iran Nuke Deal

The following appears as an op-ed in the Washington Post. It was co-written by France’s minister of foreign affairs, Britain’s foreign secretary, Germany’s federal minister for foreign affairs, and the high representative of the European Union for foreign affairs and security policy:

Give Diplomacy with Iran a Chance

In November 2013, after many months of negotiations, the E3+3 (France, Germany and Britain, together with the United States, Russia and China, a partnership also referred to sometimes as the P5+1) and Iran reached an interim agreement on Iran’s nuclear program. This agreement has had three main benefits.


Does John Boehner really want to go toe-to-toe with three of the most powerful countries on Earth, not to mention China and Russia, who are also helping to negotiate the Iran deal? If yes, he is a dangerous fool. History will not remember him, nor Bibi well.


And from Israel condemnations of Netanyahu's 'recklessness' are growing including from Livni:

Livni, Lapid slam Netanyahu for 'ruining' ties with US

Leaders lambaste prime minister for imperiling relations with superpower for the sake of electioneering, 'one speech.'


With the outrage mounting against this slimy attempt to undermine the POTUS in cahoots with a foreign leader, it is more than likely that the scheme will fall apart, leaving Boehner and Bibi looking like the bad guys they are before the entire world.

But is that enough for these two and their co-conspirators?

There have been suggestions that what Boehner did might have crossed a legal line.

Several World Leaders, thankfully, along with the US have been working hard to avoid WAR with Iran.

What these two tried to do was DANGEROUS not just to the US but to the world.

So should Congress clarify the already existing laws that seem to forbid this kind of thing, but are not very clear, to make sure nothing like this happens again?

I think there definitely should be some action taken. An Independent Investigator appointed to find out how such a thing could have happened.
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Boehner sure gets off easy for being one of the most evil assholes in the country. world wide wally Jan 2015 #1
Boehner has no investment bvf Jan 2015 #29
I think he is lazy, disingenuous and not too bright. ladjf Jan 2015 #31
Ya think he might drink a bit too much? busterbrown Jan 2015 #35
Alcohol is definitely a contributor madashelltoo Jan 2015 #41
know a bit about the subject as well.. busterbrown Jan 2015 #44
He looks like a drunk fool just from his body posture and mannerisms, and than he talks. RKP5637 Jan 2015 #45
Yes and the trouble is he is 3rd in line for the presidency of the U>S> onecent Jan 2015 #127
Too many voters have been hoodwinked by the Republican progaganda machine. nt ladjf Jan 2015 #133
Remember when the RWingers and FOX criticized Obama for bowing before the Saudi Prince? kelliekat44 Jan 2015 #42
Isn't your heart warmed and your spirit comforted with the knowledge that KingCharlemagne Jan 2015 #2
Where is the Koch and Netanyahu puppet lately, anyway, MIA? Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #6
That is a scary thought! sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #89
Any chance Netanyahu will be defeated in ths upcoming election? aint_no_life_nowhere Jan 2015 #3
As usual no party will get an absolute parliamentary majority. totodeinhere Jan 2015 #20
I've been following it, but it is unbelievably complex with parties merging -- and splitting karynnj Jan 2015 #48
Overreach. cilla4progress Jan 2015 #4
Boehner is so white rage angry at the President for his SOTU huge success and how he made the monmouth4 Jan 2015 #5
The slap to the face of protocol and Obama was under negotiations for weeks before the announcement... Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #7
agreed. Also, ChairmanAgnostic Jan 2015 #11
All the moaning and groaning about Pres O, who can't anyting right in eyes of some Iliyah Jan 2015 #22
POTUS didn't make them look reckless vlyons Jan 2015 #12
I often disagree with you... Adrahil Jan 2015 #8
Thank you. The President is right to try to resolve this issue peacefully. sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #15
ZOD? Tom Ripley Jan 2015 #9
Thanks for the research on Israeli leaders' reach. ancianita Jan 2015 #10
Headline in Times of Israel feeds paranoia (rightwing stuff) azurnoir Jan 2015 #13
Cut off quotes from a person is an editorial, not a report...transparent speculation and propaganda. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #26
The fear mongers and propagandists are everywhere. Well paid I am sure. But I feel a change sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #62
Anyone who votes for further sanctions SamKnause Jan 2015 #14
They know they're in the minority so they want to "depopulate" the area.... Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2015 #23
I couldn't agree with you more. Cleita Jan 2015 #16
Yeah, they are both psychopaths and megalomaniacs. BeanMusical Jan 2015 #66
This kind of treachery is normal towards this President. LawDeeDah Jan 2015 #17
exactly right. this is just one visible example of the treachery certainot Jan 2015 #19
It's why I don't believe any of this 'he is a corporate stooge', and whatever etc. LawDeeDah Jan 2015 #24
A corporate stooge being viciously attacked at every turn by the corporate media? Quite the paradox. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #27
I know! It all makes perfect sense. LawDeeDah Jan 2015 #36
truth. ^ n/t BlancheSplanchnik Jan 2015 #43
+ a million Number23 Jan 2015 #54
and we just get to see a little of it exposed like this. bush/rove/cheney certainot Jan 2015 #119
the rw radio gods are coming to boehner's rescue and will be used to certainot Jan 2015 #18
Well, I think there needs to be an investigation. We know now that Bibi and his right wing sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #38
thanks for that, filled in a lot for me. things are sounding certainot Jan 2015 #73
The sky must be falling because at least Chris Wallace and Shepard Smith of Fox . . . brush Jan 2015 #97
i wonder if boehner might have gotten set up certainot Jan 2015 #104
"who hate meddling israelis more than black presidents" brush Jan 2015 #115
Surprised he didn't hand out AIPAC checks on the House Floor. Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2015 #21
All Republicans are tools for sale and have a price. gordianot Jan 2015 #25
MoveOn.org petition to Impeach John Boehner sanatanadharma Jan 2015 #28
Yes, that would seem like the best option. But getting support from Republicans might not be easy, sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #39
Dumbest idea this week SickOfTheOnePct Jan 2015 #61
As dumb as a president being impeached for a personal matter? That's what WE said back then. sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #65
Yes, that was dumb too SickOfTheOnePct Jan 2015 #68
Boehner was merely a puppet. And yes, we do have to get down in the gutter when that is where sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #69
Then have at it SickOfTheOnePct Jan 2015 #70
Really? We won't know that until there is a thorough investigation. This 'plot' to usurp American sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #72
If you really believe this is some kind of plot to usurp American interests SickOfTheOnePct Jan 2015 #77
We are having at it, across the country. Those Reps in Congress are OUR Reps not Bibi's sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #117
Blah blah blah SickOfTheOnePct Jan 2015 #118
Like I said, not to the people of THIS country or the UK, France, Germany, China and Russia who sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #120
No need for him to turn to me SickOfTheOnePct Jan 2015 #125
Not quite true. This is unprecedented. brush Jan 2015 #98
It's unprecedented in that the White House wasn't notified first SickOfTheOnePct Jan 2015 #102
The President and Kerry disagree with you. And both are refusing to meet with Netanyahu. A snub by sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #122
They disagree with me on what? SickOfTheOnePct Jan 2015 #124
It's a big deal to the WH. For you, maybe not, but I can't see where that is relevant to anything. sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #130
Funny, the White House has said repeatedly that it's not a big deal SickOfTheOnePct Jan 2015 #134
Actually no, they have made a big deal over it, stating they will not meet with Netanyahu which sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #135
I guess you haven't been paying attention to what the White House has said SickOfTheOnePct Jan 2015 #136
Yes, I have been paying attention. I also what the WH thinks of Bibi. Like most of the rest of the sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #137
when 'our' leaders start fighting back heaven05 Jan 2015 #30
Boehner's just doing what he's told m.bolden jr. Jan 2015 #32
Their puppets of their own zentrum Jan 2015 #33
Typo oops! zentrum Jan 2015 #37
As an important Republican, Boehner is in a protected class MannyGoldstein Jan 2015 #34
You're probably right. But we can hope. How much more do they have to do before the country wakes sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #83
The Confederacy of Dunces The Blue Flower Jan 2015 #40
Even appointing Dermer as the ambassador to the US was a spit in your face move towards Obama karynnj Jan 2015 #46
This should be an OP. Good information Number23 Jan 2015 #56
Wow, thank you for that information about this guy. He met with Kerry apparently at the Embassy sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #105
Not only that -- undermining Obama as Kerry made calls to try to help Israel! karynnj Jan 2015 #107
I just read that Dermer was in trouble in Israel for 'campaigning' here in the US for Netanyahu sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #123
Interesting karynnj Jan 2015 #126
I just read your post #105 and I remember the disrespect for Kerry and Obama. I think the world does sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #132
Boehner used like a puppet on a string by Netanyahu who initiated the now disastrous 'invitation' The CCC Jan 2015 #47
Too Drunk To Govern... Hubert Flottz Jan 2015 #49
This is a major concern of mine. Boehner is a drunk and rurallib Jan 2015 #63
It should be a major concern for the entire country. Hubert Flottz Jan 2015 #90
"the bourbon made me do it", he cried. nt hopemountain Jan 2015 #85
He's your classic crying drunk. Hubert Flottz Jan 2015 #92
We need a strong Iran in the middle east.. mountain grammy Jan 2015 #50
I write to Netanyahu today oldandhappy Jan 2015 #51
Good for you. I think we should also call the Israeli Embassy. The Ambassador was part of this plot sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #121
yes, please do! oldandhappy Jan 2015 #129
Can we stop funding them now?? 2naSalit Jan 2015 #52
What happens at that "talk" matters! Israel is watching and not happy. lark Jan 2015 #53
Looks like Dermer and Netanyahu played Bonehead like a violin DFW Jan 2015 #55
This is a goldnen opportunity for Democrats to permanently damage Republicans who went sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #57
I have some ex-Mossad friends here in Europe DFW Jan 2015 #87
That would be interesting to know. News reports say they 'broke with Netanyahu' on the Iran sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #88
I don't know what they can and/or will tell me DFW Jan 2015 #96
Thank you n/t sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #131
I wonder if it is better for Obama and Kerry to scrupulously only speak of Iran and karynnj Jan 2015 #58
Obama won't say anything publicly, but he doesn't need to DFW Jan 2015 #59
That is really serious and I suspect that you are correct karynnj Jan 2015 #67
This kind of shit is what happens workinclasszero Jan 2015 #60
And the blood will be on their hands. n/t WHEN CRABS ROAR Jan 2015 #79
Dem's Unite! modeforjoe Jan 2015 #64
Yes, people should contact their reps, including Repubs. Because it seems both sides are 'wavering' sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #71
Congress is filled with useless idiots. They're a threat to the US, incapable of Government, eom whereisjustice Jan 2015 #74
Democrats should boycott. This is 100% bullshit. The US is not a puppet state. eom whereisjustice Jan 2015 #75
Excellent OP herding cats Jan 2015 #76
Excellent comment, I couldn't agree more. This really is very serious and it is important now to sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #82
My own democrat senator, Chuck Schumer of NY, might vote for sanctions. FourScore Jan 2015 #84
It ain't just Boehner to blame Stephen Retired Jan 2015 #78
An absolute breach of protocol, no question. There are hard and fast traditions in that regard. MADem Jan 2015 #80
It may have been more than a breach of protocol. This was planned weeks, maybe months before the sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #81
thank you for shedding more light on this hopemountain Jan 2015 #86
Boehner's pretty much immune from any punishment. He will--if he finds he has to MADem Jan 2015 #93
leadership from both parties? Voice for Peace Jan 2015 #91
Yes, but Democrats are denying they knew anything about it. sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #94
K&R ReRe Jan 2015 #95
a "republican political charity" in early Jan. funded a trip to Israel for 30-40? RW congress Sunlei Jan 2015 #99
This is why there should be an investigation. Who is funding these 'charities' that appear to be sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #100
His invitation is only to make Obama look anti-Israel and pro- Iranian. SummerSnow Jan 2015 #101
I think it's way more than that. It is to undermine the President's effort, together with several sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #103
No reason the President wouldn't snub Netanyahu SickOfTheOnePct Jan 2015 #106
Good, I hope he does it again. No reason to meet with a conspirator against American's National sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #109
Yeah, whatever n/t SickOfTheOnePct Jan 2015 #110
I agree 100% SickOfTheOnePct Jan 2015 #111
Really? You are amazed that people are angry that a Foreign agent plotted against our National sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #112
I'm amazaed that some people are able to morph SickOfTheOnePct Jan 2015 #114
American foreign policy sulphurdunn Jan 2015 #108
Agreed that this definitely reflects poorly on Boehner's leadership abilities. Baitball Blogger Jan 2015 #113
Next thing you know.... kentuck Jan 2015 #116
hmmm? libodem Jan 2015 #128
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