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branford

(4,462 posts)
28. I think it's wishful thinking on your part.
Sat Jan 24, 2015, 06:56 PM
Jan 2015

Bibi has already taken the political hit by accepting the congressional invitation. Not showing up would only make him look weak, without any political upsides.

While you might dislike Bibi, he is no political fool or novice. When he speaks to Congress (and AIPAC), he will express sentiments about Iran and Islamic terrorism that are very popular in the USA and with congressmen and senators of both parties. He will not personally insult Obama, and will speak glowingly of all American elected officials, as he has done on both prior occasions when he addressed a joint session and virtually all of the many other speeches he's given on American soil. The optics will be good for his election prospects in Israel, and it's the very reason why his political opponents in Israel who are complaining about his poor relationship with the president (an allegation made all other times before he was elected prime minister), are also actually trying to block the rebroadcast of the speech and press tour from Israeli audiences.

Obama is also not going to alter US policy on Israel because he dislikes Netanyahu, and Bibi knows this. This is hardly their first bitter public spat. Current American policy has strong bipartisan and congressional support. Moreover, while key Democratic constituencies who are responsible for a great deal of Democratic election financing and organization might have their misgivings about Bibi personally, any changes in policy concerning Israel would be met with astonishment, anger and substantive repercussions. Obama additionally need Congress to finance his broader Middle East policy, and retaliation against Israel itself would result in blow-back such as cutting-off funds to the Palestinians, Syrian rebels or various United Nations agencies.

Obama is also concerned about is own Iran policy. He's invested a lot in the negotiations. If they fail, or if the public believes we got a bad deal, he will lose significant political capital when he's already a lame duck. He's annoyed at Congress and Bibi because the visit raises the expectations on the already precarious Iran negotiations.

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steamy pile LawDeeDah Jan 2015 #1
Do you disagree with anything that I wrote? MannyGoldstein Jan 2015 #3
My interest in your opinions has never been high LawDeeDah Jan 2015 #5
Sounds like you don't disagree, MannyGoldstein Jan 2015 #6
Hidden posts might make someone think twice Long Drive Jan 2015 #106
Excellent post* BeyondGeography Jan 2015 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author panader0 Jan 2015 #7
You've got to admit...Manny is pretty good with subliminal messages, isn't he? eom BlueCaliDem Jan 2015 #42
Agreed! Stellar Jan 2015 #61
Amazing, isn't it? Control-Z Jan 2015 #16
Let me guess. MannyGoldstein Jan 2015 #21
I've got your number, manny. Control-Z Jan 2015 #24
Well... I guessed wrong. MannyGoldstein Jan 2015 #25
+10000 sheshe2 Jan 2015 #51
Interesting comment from you Manny. sheshe2 Jan 2015 #50
And would you like to point out any that were incorrect? MannyGoldstein Jan 2015 #52
Lol~ sheshe2 Jan 2015 #53
The part where MADem said that Jan Schakowski was a right-wing shill in bed with lobbyists MannyGoldstein Jan 2015 #56
... sheshe2 Jan 2015 #66
You are so brave Long Drive Jan 2015 #107
Wow. That thread. Bobbie Jo Jan 2015 #85
You Better Believe It! nt msanthrope Jan 2015 #98
From your mouth... nt COLGATE4 Jan 2015 #2
What can I say Manny Andy823 Jan 2015 #8
Even Elizabeth Warren has expressed the same concern MannyGoldstein Jan 2015 #9
to be fair, obama has self identified his policies as "moderate republican" msongs Jan 2015 #10
But if I said he was, at best I'd be called a Rat@$!#er, MannyGoldstein Jan 2015 #11
Just exactly what all of us Democrats wanted! truebluegreen Jan 2015 #12
Not all Dems want moderate Repug. lark Jan 2015 #13
I shoulda added truebluegreen Jan 2015 #47
At that very moment in history, after the Bush Administration nearly destroyed the nation, Enthusiast Jan 2015 #14
It's hard to make sure everyone gets the sarcasm when corresponding over the intertoobz. truebluegreen Jan 2015 #48
And how many of those "deals" are now law? Andy823 Jan 2015 #17
More than 80% of the Bush tax cuts were made permanent MannyGoldstein Jan 2015 #19
"more than 80% of the Bush tax cuts" geek tragedy Jan 2015 #26
The vast bulk of the 82% of the remaining Bush tax cuts MannyGoldstein Jan 2015 #37
So does every tax cut on lower and middle income taxpayers, due to this concept geek tragedy Jan 2015 #41
Seems like you don't have a good grasp on this. MannyGoldstein Jan 2015 #45
Do you do much academic work? geek tragedy Jan 2015 #46
I wrote a college textbook that sold quite nicely MannyGoldstein Jan 2015 #70
So you need to get paid in order to back your claims up and engage geek tragedy Jan 2015 #73
And again, you clearly don't know what was - and was not - in the deal. nt MannyGoldstein Jan 2015 #74
So,you allow yourself to make unsubstantiated claims for free, but geek tragedy Jan 2015 #75
Excellent reply Andy823 Jan 2015 #88
I guess you survived the jury. joshcryer Jan 2015 #80
I think Bibi will be forced to cancel. randome Jan 2015 #15
Why and how would Bibi be forced to cancel? branford Jan 2015 #18
Politically, this looks bad for Bibi on his home turf. randome Jan 2015 #20
I think it's wishful thinking on your part. branford Jan 2015 #28
WATCH: Fox News blasts Netanyahu's 'egregious snub' of President Obama" geek tragedy Jan 2015 #43
Interesting video. Jesus Malverde Jan 2015 #58
Feinstein tells Haaretz: PM speech 'inappropriate,' Iran sanctions 'dangerous' geek tragedy Jan 2015 #44
Sigh, I never said the invitation was not a snub or even a "political master stroke." branford Jan 2015 #49
blah blah blah blah blah blah. geek tragedy Jan 2015 #55
yup JI7 Jan 2015 #57
We'll discuss the issue again in early March, branford Jan 2015 #59
you're very good at what you do. But you're still a little too obvious in your agenda. For example geek tragedy Jan 2015 #60
We'll discuss the issue in late March which is when the earliest vote on sanctions will occur geek tragedy Jan 2015 #110
Yoo hoo!!! nt geek tragedy Mar 2015 #111
'Obama' and 'desperately' in the same sentence. I don't think you've been paying attention. randome Jan 2015 #62
Again, I agree with you. Aerows Jan 2015 #92
OMG. Aerows Jan 2015 #30
I believe Obama will make it clear that Hell will rain down on Netanyahu MannyGoldstein Jan 2015 #22
Hilarious. randome Jan 2015 #27
How can he "make Hell rain down" on Netanyahu, branford Jan 2015 #29
Little bit of difference here. Aerows Jan 2015 #32
I think that's a little nit-picky and disingenuous. branford Jan 2015 #34
You are accusing me of being Aerows Jan 2015 #54
nobody but Benghazi types give a shit about the "march" JI7 Jan 2015 #35
It was indeed a photo-op. branford Jan 2015 #38
BENGHAZI JI7 Jan 2015 #39
So, I therefore assume you believe Obama intends to "rain hell" upon Netanyahu? branford Jan 2015 #40
"This kind of disrespect is precisely the kind of thing that gets Obama upset." geek tragedy Jan 2015 #31
While I hope Warren really does run Aerows Jan 2015 #33
Hillary would be the best thing for TWM's posts. joshcryer Jan 2015 #82
Netanyahu has made the situation with Palestinians worse JI7 Jan 2015 #36
Unlikely, Obama doesn't hold grudges. joshcryer Jan 2015 #81
I don't think most people care. 840high Jan 2015 #63
fuck Netanyahu JI7 Jan 2015 #23
Post removed Post removed Jan 2015 #64
they aren't that good, it's pretty obvious to me JI7 Jan 2015 #65
Cantor and the GOP saved Social Security from eeeeevil Obama... Cali_Democrat Jan 2015 #67
That's what numerous mainstream news sources claim. MannyGoldstein Jan 2015 #71
In a vacuum they're lying, absolutely. joshcryer Jan 2015 #79
Will Ayatollah Ali Khamenei be speaking before or after Netanyahu? JEB Jan 2015 #68
I think that some Democrats actually did think they could negotiate with Republicans. Why I have no sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #69
Or they agreed with Republicans. MannyGoldstein Jan 2015 #72
Um, if they agreed, why didn't it pass? joshcryer Jan 2015 #78
Hopefully, but Obama's masochistic willingness to reach out and touch Republican nastiness JDPriestly Jan 2015 #76
"submissive tendencies" joshcryer Jan 2015 #84
Cantor didn't like the tax loopholes and a poverty exemption. joshcryer Jan 2015 #77
Social Security just got a COLA of 1.7%. djean111 Jan 2015 #86
Yes, the lowest SS check per individual was to be 125% poverty. joshcryer Jan 2015 #93
Some here only post for the rec's Andy823 Jan 2015 #89
I'm not aware of a "poverty exemption" for chained CPI MannyGoldstein Jan 2015 #91
That has nothing to do with the 125% poverty baseline. joshcryer Jan 2015 #96
Is that link to a proposal made by President Obama? MannyGoldstein Jan 2015 #97
It never got out of committee. joshcryer Jan 2015 #99
As indicated in the link I supplied, Obama made a specific proposal MannyGoldstein Jan 2015 #100
Of course it was a cut for most. joshcryer Jan 2015 #103
How would it have raised 5-10 million out of poverty? MannyGoldstein Jan 2015 #104
*In* 100% poverty is around 3 million. joshcryer Jan 2015 #105
Hey, Manny, do you have a response to #77? joshcryer Jan 2015 #83
Flogging the imment SS Cuts Again straw-Manny? JoePhilly Jan 2015 #87
As regards to the point of the topic that few seem to be directly addressing... 2banon Jan 2015 #90
Me as well Aerows Jan 2015 #95
That Obama would stop negotiation is asinine. joshcryer Jan 2015 #108
Are you responding to my post? 2banon Jan 2015 #109
I bet you didn't know Hillary Clinton is not Bill Clinton! Rex Jan 2015 #94
I see your fan club is active. neverforget Jan 2015 #101
It's like walking through a wading pool MannyGoldstein Jan 2015 #102
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