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karynnj

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67. That is really serious and I suspect that you are correct

Sat Jan 24, 2015, 08:15 PM

Jan 2015

Not to mention, it is not just Obama/Kerry who have worked on the Iranian deal -- our allies have worked for about a decade. Their Washington Post oped was extremely good.

It is unthinkable that Netanyahu thinks he can harness the US Congress against our own best interests - because he is obsessed.

I wonder if the other big loser could be AIPAC. I remember disputing for years that they had such disproportionate influence - I would bet that for many people this is an eyeopener. Not to mention, the right has tried to make this Obama/Kerry who they claim are weak negotiators vs the brilliant strong Netanyahu - when it is the combined work of 6 nations and the EU.

What is clear is that Netanyahu is most accomplished at blowing up diplomacy and lying when he says he is behind any.

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Boehner used like a puppet on a string by Netanyahu who initiated the now disastrous 'invitation' [View all] sabrina 1 Jan 2015 OP

Boehner sure gets off easy for being one of the most evil assholes in the country. world wide wally Jan 2015 #1

Boehner has no investment bvf Jan 2015 #29

I think he is lazy, disingenuous and not too bright. ladjf Jan 2015 #31

Ya think he might drink a bit too much? busterbrown Jan 2015 #35

Alcohol is definitely a contributor madashelltoo Jan 2015 #41

know a bit about the subject as well.. busterbrown Jan 2015 #44

He looks like a drunk fool just from his body posture and mannerisms, and than he talks. RKP5637 Jan 2015 #45

Yes and the trouble is he is 3rd in line for the presidency of the U>S> onecent Jan 2015 #127

Too many voters have been hoodwinked by the Republican progaganda machine. nt ladjf Jan 2015 #133

Remember when the RWingers and FOX criticized Obama for bowing before the Saudi Prince? kelliekat44 Jan 2015 #42

Isn't your heart warmed and your spirit comforted with the knowledge that KingCharlemagne Jan 2015 #2

Where is the Koch and Netanyahu puppet lately, anyway, MIA? Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #6

That is a scary thought! sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #89

Any chance Netanyahu will be defeated in ths upcoming election? aint_no_life_nowhere Jan 2015 #3

As usual no party will get an absolute parliamentary majority. totodeinhere Jan 2015 #20

I've been following it, but it is unbelievably complex with parties merging -- and splitting karynnj Jan 2015 #48

Overreach. cilla4progress Jan 2015 #4

Boehner is so white rage angry at the President for his SOTU huge success and how he made the monmouth4 Jan 2015 #5

The slap to the face of protocol and Obama was under negotiations for weeks before the announcement... Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #7

agreed. Also, ChairmanAgnostic Jan 2015 #11

All the moaning and groaning about Pres O, who can't anyting right in eyes of some Iliyah Jan 2015 #22

POTUS didn't make them look reckless vlyons Jan 2015 #12

I often disagree with you... Adrahil Jan 2015 #8

Thank you. The President is right to try to resolve this issue peacefully. sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #15

ZOD? Tom Ripley Jan 2015 #9

Thanks for the research on Israeli leaders' reach. ancianita Jan 2015 #10

Headline in Times of Israel feeds paranoia (rightwing stuff) azurnoir Jan 2015 #13

Cut off quotes from a person is an editorial, not a report...transparent speculation and propaganda. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #26

The fear mongers and propagandists are everywhere. Well paid I am sure. But I feel a change sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #62

Anyone who votes for further sanctions SamKnause Jan 2015 #14

They know they're in the minority so they want to "depopulate" the area.... Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2015 #23

I couldn't agree with you more. Cleita Jan 2015 #16

Yeah, they are both psychopaths and megalomaniacs. BeanMusical Jan 2015 #66

This kind of treachery is normal towards this President. LawDeeDah Jan 2015 #17

exactly right. this is just one visible example of the treachery certainot Jan 2015 #19

It's why I don't believe any of this 'he is a corporate stooge', and whatever etc. LawDeeDah Jan 2015 #24

A corporate stooge being viciously attacked at every turn by the corporate media? Quite the paradox. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #27

I know! It all makes perfect sense. LawDeeDah Jan 2015 #36

truth. ^ n/t BlancheSplanchnik Jan 2015 #43

+ a million Number23 Jan 2015 #54

and we just get to see a little of it exposed like this. bush/rove/cheney certainot Jan 2015 #119

the rw radio gods are coming to boehner's rescue and will be used to certainot Jan 2015 #18

Well, I think there needs to be an investigation. We know now that Bibi and his right wing sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #38

thanks for that, filled in a lot for me. things are sounding certainot Jan 2015 #73

The sky must be falling because at least Chris Wallace and Shepard Smith of Fox . . . brush Jan 2015 #97

i wonder if boehner might have gotten set up certainot Jan 2015 #104

"who hate meddling israelis more than black presidents" brush Jan 2015 #115

Surprised he didn't hand out AIPAC checks on the House Floor. Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2015 #21

All Republicans are tools for sale and have a price. gordianot Jan 2015 #25

MoveOn.org petition to Impeach John Boehner sanatanadharma Jan 2015 #28

Yes, that would seem like the best option. But getting support from Republicans might not be easy, sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #39

Dumbest idea this week SickOfTheOnePct Jan 2015 #61

As dumb as a president being impeached for a personal matter? That's what WE said back then. sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #65

Yes, that was dumb too SickOfTheOnePct Jan 2015 #68

Boehner was merely a puppet. And yes, we do have to get down in the gutter when that is where sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #69

Then have at it SickOfTheOnePct Jan 2015 #70

Really? We won't know that until there is a thorough investigation. This 'plot' to usurp American sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #72

If you really believe this is some kind of plot to usurp American interests SickOfTheOnePct Jan 2015 #77

We are having at it, across the country. Those Reps in Congress are OUR Reps not Bibi's sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #117

Blah blah blah SickOfTheOnePct Jan 2015 #118

Like I said, not to the people of THIS country or the UK, France, Germany, China and Russia who sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #120

No need for him to turn to me SickOfTheOnePct Jan 2015 #125

Not quite true. This is unprecedented. brush Jan 2015 #98

It's unprecedented in that the White House wasn't notified first SickOfTheOnePct Jan 2015 #102

The President and Kerry disagree with you. And both are refusing to meet with Netanyahu. A snub by sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #122

They disagree with me on what? SickOfTheOnePct Jan 2015 #124

It's a big deal to the WH. For you, maybe not, but I can't see where that is relevant to anything. sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #130

Funny, the White House has said repeatedly that it's not a big deal SickOfTheOnePct Jan 2015 #134

Actually no, they have made a big deal over it, stating they will not meet with Netanyahu which sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #135

I guess you haven't been paying attention to what the White House has said SickOfTheOnePct Jan 2015 #136

Yes, I have been paying attention. I also what the WH thinks of Bibi. Like most of the rest of the sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #137

when 'our' leaders start fighting back heaven05 Jan 2015 #30

Boehner's just doing what he's told m.bolden jr. Jan 2015 #32

Their puppets of their own zentrum Jan 2015 #33

Typo oops! zentrum Jan 2015 #37

As an important Republican, Boehner is in a protected class MannyGoldstein Jan 2015 #34

You're probably right. But we can hope. How much more do they have to do before the country wakes sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #83

The Confederacy of Dunces The Blue Flower Jan 2015 #40

Even appointing Dermer as the ambassador to the US was a spit in your face move towards Obama karynnj Jan 2015 #46

This should be an OP. Good information Number23 Jan 2015 #56

Wow, thank you for that information about this guy. He met with Kerry apparently at the Embassy sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #105

Not only that -- undermining Obama as Kerry made calls to try to help Israel! karynnj Jan 2015 #107

I just read that Dermer was in trouble in Israel for 'campaigning' here in the US for Netanyahu sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #123

Interesting karynnj Jan 2015 #126

I just read your post #105 and I remember the disrespect for Kerry and Obama. I think the world does sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #132

Boehner used like a puppet on a string by Netanyahu who initiated the now disastrous 'invitation' The CCC Jan 2015 #47

Too Drunk To Govern... Hubert Flottz Jan 2015 #49

This is a major concern of mine. Boehner is a drunk and rurallib Jan 2015 #63

It should be a major concern for the entire country. Hubert Flottz Jan 2015 #90

"the bourbon made me do it", he cried. nt hopemountain Jan 2015 #85

He's your classic crying drunk. Hubert Flottz Jan 2015 #92

We need a strong Iran in the middle east.. mountain grammy Jan 2015 #50

I write to Netanyahu today oldandhappy Jan 2015 #51

Good for you. I think we should also call the Israeli Embassy. The Ambassador was part of this plot sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #121

yes, please do! oldandhappy Jan 2015 #129

Can we stop funding them now?? 2naSalit Jan 2015 #52

What happens at that "talk" matters! Israel is watching and not happy. lark Jan 2015 #53

Looks like Dermer and Netanyahu played Bonehead like a violin DFW Jan 2015 #55

This is a goldnen opportunity for Democrats to permanently damage Republicans who went sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #57

I have some ex-Mossad friends here in Europe DFW Jan 2015 #87

That would be interesting to know. News reports say they 'broke with Netanyahu' on the Iran sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #88

I don't know what they can and/or will tell me DFW Jan 2015 #96

Thank you n/t sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #131

I wonder if it is better for Obama and Kerry to scrupulously only speak of Iran and karynnj Jan 2015 #58

Obama won't say anything publicly, but he doesn't need to DFW Jan 2015 #59

That is really serious and I suspect that you are correct karynnj Jan 2015 #67

This kind of shit is what happens workinclasszero Jan 2015 #60

And the blood will be on their hands. n/t WHEN CRABS ROAR Jan 2015 #79

Dem's Unite! modeforjoe Jan 2015 #64

Yes, people should contact their reps, including Repubs. Because it seems both sides are 'wavering' sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #71

Congress is filled with useless idiots. They're a threat to the US, incapable of Government, eom whereisjustice Jan 2015 #74

Democrats should boycott. This is 100% bullshit. The US is not a puppet state. eom whereisjustice Jan 2015 #75

Excellent OP herding cats Jan 2015 #76

Excellent comment, I couldn't agree more. This really is very serious and it is important now to sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #82

My own democrat senator, Chuck Schumer of NY, might vote for sanctions. FourScore Jan 2015 #84

It ain't just Boehner to blame Stephen Retired Jan 2015 #78

An absolute breach of protocol, no question. There are hard and fast traditions in that regard. MADem Jan 2015 #80

It may have been more than a breach of protocol. This was planned weeks, maybe months before the sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #81

thank you for shedding more light on this hopemountain Jan 2015 #86

Boehner's pretty much immune from any punishment. He will--if he finds he has to MADem Jan 2015 #93

leadership from both parties? Voice for Peace Jan 2015 #91

Yes, but Democrats are denying they knew anything about it. sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #94

K&R ReRe Jan 2015 #95

a "republican political charity" in early Jan. funded a trip to Israel for 30-40? RW congress Sunlei Jan 2015 #99

This is why there should be an investigation. Who is funding these 'charities' that appear to be sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #100

His invitation is only to make Obama look anti-Israel and pro- Iranian. SummerSnow Jan 2015 #101

I think it's way more than that. It is to undermine the President's effort, together with several sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #103

No reason the President wouldn't snub Netanyahu SickOfTheOnePct Jan 2015 #106

Good, I hope he does it again. No reason to meet with a conspirator against American's National sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #109

Yeah, whatever n/t SickOfTheOnePct Jan 2015 #110

I agree 100% SickOfTheOnePct Jan 2015 #111

Really? You are amazed that people are angry that a Foreign agent plotted against our National sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #112

I'm amazaed that some people are able to morph SickOfTheOnePct Jan 2015 #114

American foreign policy sulphurdunn Jan 2015 #108

Agreed that this definitely reflects poorly on Boehner's leadership abilities. Baitball Blogger Jan 2015 #113

Next thing you know.... kentuck Jan 2015 #116

hmmm? libodem Jan 2015 #128