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MANative

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Sun Jan 25, 2015, 10:07 AM Jan 2015

For an "informed" community, there's a whole lot of misinformation flying around here. [View all]

Re: Deflategate

1. Reports by Chris Mortenson that the footballs were underinflated by 2 lbs PSI have not been confirmed by the NFL or by the NE Patriots. That they were underinflated is not in dispute. The degree to which they were and how they came to be that way are not known.

2. Each team supplies their own footballs for offensive play. Usually a dozen, but as many as three dozen are prepared for game day, the number typically dependent on weather conditions. Worse weather = more footballs available. Wet weather, especially, plays havoc with the surface texture of the ball, something over which the vast majority of quarterbacks would be concerned. Most quarterbacks seem to have a greater concern over the surface and texture feel of the ball than the inflation of it, though that, too, is important, based on the interviews I've seen and from the four amateur (college) QBs whom I know personally.

3. There's a VERY simple explanation for why the Colts' footballs did not deflate to under the required 12.5 lbs PSI while the Patriots' did. It's the STARTING POINT of the inflation. The Patriots regularly use the lower end of the scale at 12.5 for their start point. The Colts' quarterback prefers the football to be at the upper range, thus they start at the 13.5 level. If both sets of balls lost some air pressure, the Colts' balls may have - and probably did - deflate some, but not to under the 12.5 level.

4. For all of you who hate the Patriots so much, I ask you to watch ALL of Bill Belichick's Saturday press conference. Yes, I fully acknowledge that I've been a Pats fan all my life. I lived in Foxboro for four years in the late '80s, two miles from the stadium. No apologies for my fan status. I've watched more BB press conferences than I can count, and I've never seen him more emotional, adamant and passionate than he was yesterday. The information he imparted was enlightening, even addressing the "Spygate" element of this fiasco. BB is hated by many for his abrasive personality, and by more for his success.

5. Harbaugh was humiliated that he was out-coached in the Divisional round. He was out for revenge in the one spot that he knew the Patriots and Belichick would be forever vulnerable. He dropped the dime and Pagano was all too happy to take advantage.

6. Haters are free to comment. I won't be engaging in arguments. In fact, I'll be walking away from this discussion entirely. I've already put at least three people on Ignore over their over-the-top hysterics; no compunctions about adding a few more. Have at it.

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My only comment is ...... marmar Jan 2015 #1
I feel my brain deflating..... .............. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #2
ditto cwydro Jan 2015 #12
So if we disagree we're haters... trumad Jan 2015 #3
Lol! He's doing a Goodbye Cruel World post without having to really go. Demit Jan 2015 #13
Exactly my position pipoman Jan 2015 #17
The only people who believe the lies of Belicheat and Brady are in New England. eom MohRokTah Jan 2015 #4
not true OKNancy Jan 2015 #8
It's true MohRokTah Jan 2015 #10
since I live in Oklahoma I guess I'm one of the 37% who believe them OKNancy Jan 2015 #34
lol! HappyMe Jan 2015 #5
LOL, he should take his deflated balls and go home.... FSogol Jan 2015 #21
Yup. HappyMe Jan 2015 #24
I would say you are probably right on all counts yeoman6987 Jan 2015 #6
no judgment from me until all the facts are in OKNancy Jan 2015 #7
oh god, make it stop NightWatcher Jan 2015 #9
they have been playing this game a long long time. they are aware of what happens seabeyond Jan 2015 #11
I like this part Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2015 #14
i always liked brady, and the patriots. i had to kick them to the curb last time they cheated. seabeyond Jan 2015 #19
Who in the league would now consider them a worthy adversary? Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2015 #27
Stupidest, self serving comment of the day....point 6.... pipoman Jan 2015 #15
DU is not an informed community wyldwolf Jan 2015 #16
It isn't informed because there are too many like the op.... pipoman Jan 2015 #18
that's true as well wyldwolf Jan 2015 #20
And there is a lot of intersection between the two ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #33
Someone with 37,000 posts complaining about "outspoken members" Fumesucker Jan 2015 #22
+1 n/t. 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #32
The NFL wouldn't have allowed this controversy to go on for a week, if your simple explanation pnwmom Jan 2015 #23
Say what? Football? randome Jan 2015 #25
I think factions in sports culture arguing over who is the most dishonest is funny. Bluenorthwest Jan 2015 #26
You're putting people on Ignore over a game? Please, please, put me on KingCharlemagne Jan 2015 #28
... pinboy3niner Jan 2015 #29
The Cheatriots Capt. Obvious Jan 2015 #30
The General Discussion link is broken. antiquie Jan 2015 #31
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