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101. Anything done by Oliver Stone

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Sun Jan 25, 2015, 12:03 PM

Jan 2015

that purports to be "historical" is usually so filled with historical inaccuracies it makes one cringe.

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What dramatic movies have been historically accurate? [View all] el_bryanto Jan 2015 OP

"History supplies little more than a list of people who have helped themselves to the property of Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2015 #1

That's an interesting turn. I think history does a little more than that, myself. el_bryanto Jan 2015 #4

Or Bierce, in his Devil's Dictionary: Jackpine Radical Jan 2015 #27

Black Hawk Down, We Were Soldiers, A Bridge Too Far, The Raid, did pretty well in accuracy. braddy Jan 2015 #2

...sure braddy. ND-Dem Jan 2015 #6

LOL, that an enemy leader disliked his portrayal, doesn't condemn the overall accuracy of the braddy Jan 2015 #11

lol, you missed the more lengthier part about the SEAL sniper who thought it was a fraud. ND-Dem Jan 2015 #18

I don't know why you want to be so argumentative, no film, no documentary, no news article, no braddy Jan 2015 #23

maybe it's because i don't like the kind of folks whose mission is to get snipers accepted ND-Dem Jan 2015 #35

So you are a stalker and keep wanting to drag your personal grudges to this thread. braddy Jan 2015 #37

political. not personal. i notice you keep responding. ND-Dem Jan 2015 #46

I'm not supposed to respond to posts made to me? Why don't you try to get back to the thread topic. braddy Jan 2015 #48

you mean inaccurate pro-war propaganda films like black hawk down? ND-Dem Jan 2015 #55

If you think it is too horribly inaccurate to fit into this discussion, then you are sure entitled braddy Jan 2015 #56

LOL no they didn't tkmorris Jan 2015 #9

Don't forget Band of Brothers. GGJohn Jan 2015 #92

I was Airborne myself and have a autographed photo of them parachuting in, from "Wild Bill" Guarnere braddy Jan 2015 #98

'We Were Soldiers' was ruined by the ending. The ending of the movie never even happened. chrisa Jan 2015 #105

You probably already know that Hal Moore and Joseph L. Galloway were advisers on the movie braddy Jan 2015 #107

Which makes the disgusting propaganda piece even more despicable tabasco Jan 2015 #116

In all fairness, these scenes were never in Moore's book. The writers added them for some reason chrisa Jan 2015 #121

The movie fails to cover Day 4 of the battle, which was a disaster tabasco Jan 2015 #122

You're confusing 2 separate battles at 2 different places pinboy3niner Jan 2015 #111

I'm referring to when the 7th Cav did a charge against the NVA and massacred them all. The scene chrisa Jan 2015 #112

The movie left out the final day of the battle, you know, when everybody got killed tabasco Jan 2015 #115

"We Were Soldiers" LOLOL tabasco Jan 2015 #114

what's the benefit of 'seeing people going through it' if its not fact-based? ND-Dem Jan 2015 #3

There's a difference between getting some details wrong el_bryanto Jan 2015 #5

yes. it depends on the details indeed. ND-Dem Jan 2015 #12

That part bothers me as well el_bryanto Jan 2015 #16

people around king like oprah? I think the OP acurately describes her as a conservative. I don't ND-Dem Jan 2015 #22

I didn't claim that Oprah was around Dr. King - what did I say that implied that I thought that? el_bryanto Jan 2015 #25

You said: ND-Dem Jan 2015 #29

OK el_bryanto Jan 2015 #34

Oprah is executive producer. I didn't claim she was director. The director is usually subservient ND-Dem Jan 2015 #38

Well yes - I guess Oprah should have made another movie in which the white guy saves the el_bryanto Jan 2015 #59

yeah, that's it. that's what i want, a film where johnson in the hero and mlk is the bit player. ND-Dem Jan 2015 #80

I'm sure this is what this whole entire project was all about JonLP24 Jan 2015 #88

Thank you. Well said. As a former teacher of film studies, I also see that if DuVernay is pretty new ancianita Jan 2015 #93

Executive Producer is mainly the financing & legal (copyrights) role of the project JonLP24 Jan 2015 #87

Oprah likely had help JonLP24 Jan 2015 #86

Reminds me of the controversy surrounding 'Braveheart' and its inaccuracies. VScott Jan 2015 #24

Idiocracy was spot on. I think it happened in '87... Whiskeytide Jan 2015 #7

That is a great movie - i think it's Aaron Sorkin's favorite. I just loved how dirty it all looked el_bryanto Jan 2015 #8

Your post has inspired me to try to ... Whiskeytide Jan 2015 #26

then it was a documentary, right? by your own standard. ND-Dem Jan 2015 #14

Well, I can't argue with that... Whiskeytide Jan 2015 #30

The goal of propaganda films is to entertain too; makes it slide down easier. What I'm saying ND-Dem Jan 2015 #43

Idiocracy is a Documentary of a Future America ChosenUnWisely Jan 2015 #20

But, almost by definition, the people... Whiskeytide Jan 2015 #28

Ow My Balls is a great show! MindPilot Jan 2015 #61

Instant Classic... Whiskeytide Jan 2015 #65

I'm deflatin'! frylock Jan 2015 #72

You win! A round of Brawndo for everyone!!! MindPilot Jan 2015 #99

I think Voltaire was talking about the way history is taught. Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2015 #10

I'm interested in all of it myself; el_bryanto Jan 2015 #19

Here's a couple that taught me a lot. Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2015 #39

None, some can be close but that is about it ChosenUnWisely Jan 2015 #13

Fever Pitch Capt. Obvious Jan 2015 #15

Fun fact about the U.S. version KamaAina Jan 2015 #36

Apollo 13... maybe? VScott Jan 2015 #17

There were liberties taken to increase drama about Jack Swigert Ryano42 Jan 2015 #31

Yes, but zipplewrath Jan 2015 #63

My Father was an illustrator making Skylab manuals during Apollo 13... Ryano42 Jan 2015 #70

Gone with the Wind. cherokeeprogressive Jan 2015 #100

A friend of mine, now deceased, was part of NASA when that happened MannyGoldstein Jan 2015 #77

That was my first answer, too. Warren DeMontague Jan 2015 #118

I re-watched "Glory" last night on GRIT TV (channel 46-4 in Los Angeles) and was KingCharlemagne Jan 2015 #21

I would agree JustAnotherGen Jan 2015 #42

Grapes of Wrath TuxedoKat Jan 2015 #110

I was an extra in that movie! n/t Adrahil Jan 2015 #123

13 Days and Road to War both come to mind. LanternWaste Jan 2015 #32

Probably none. History is boring. Dreamer Tatum Jan 2015 #33

I've long noticed that movies often get things wrong. SheilaT Jan 2015 #40

Your last paragraph is exactly what I was going to mention. Marr Jan 2015 #54

Sharknado but they got loose with the facts on Sharknado 2 underpants Jan 2015 #41

did you even bother to read the annotated tie-in? frylock Jan 2015 #73

All The Presidents Men JustAnotherGen Jan 2015 #44

"The Great Escape" Ron Green Jan 2015 #45

Off the top of my head: NuclearDem Jan 2015 #47

name of the rose was a fiction based in a historical setting. a fiction written to explore the ND-Dem Jan 2015 #50

The actor who played Hitler exboyfil Jan 2015 #76

Inglourious Basterds. Nye Bevan Jan 2015 #49

Some are 4Q2u2 Jan 2015 #51

Mel Brooks "History of the World" and Bill Moyers "Joseph Campbell and the Power of Myth" bananas Jan 2015 #52

Fahrenheit 9/11 KamaAina Jan 2015 #53

Don't forget the documentary on the inventors of Post-its pinboy3niner Jan 2015 #58

Battle of Algiers, I think, was one that got much of history correct. closeupready Jan 2015 #57

^^^This^^^ Tom Ripley Jan 2015 #109

Dramatic non-fiction films are not documentaries Beaverhausen Jan 2015 #60

Almost none, I would bet. alarimer Jan 2015 #62

many people's interest in particular historical topics are borne from dramatic films. LanternWaste Jan 2015 #64

Check out "One Man's Hero" CanonRay Jan 2015 #66

There are historic movies that edhopper Jan 2015 #67

That and Selma - it sounds like the Sniper Movie got a lot wrong el_bryanto Jan 2015 #68

Selma edhopper Jan 2015 #69

Re The Green Berets JustAnotherGen Jan 2015 #102

They filmed it in Georgia edhopper Jan 2015 #103

I never knew that JustAnotherGen Jan 2015 #104

The Battle of Britain was as historically accurate as they could get jmowreader Jan 2015 #71

Not Many. But, we don't have many "historically accurate" accounts of anything. WestCoastLib Jan 2015 #74

Hmm, I can think of two that portrayed Trailrider1951 Jan 2015 #75

Movies are free speech but that doesn't mean we can't criticize them Quixote1818 Jan 2015 #78

Movies are free speech of course. nt el_bryanto Jan 2015 #79

"Lincoln" was consistent with my understanding of history. lumberjack_jeff Jan 2015 #81

I agree with luberjack_jeff..Lincon is very special in this regard. Stuart G Jan 2015 #83

"Lincoln" was researched and written over 6 years by a Pulizter Prize winning playwright Tony Bluenorthwest Jan 2015 #89

"Sink The Bismarck" and "The Battle Of Britain" were pretty accurate. Archae Jan 2015 #82

Anything done by Oliver Stone whistler162 Jan 2015 #101

Gettysburg was pretty accurate. MadrasT Jan 2015 #84

I have to really think on this one JonLP24 Jan 2015 #85

All narrative or dramatic films should not be seen as history but as a story someone told you about Bluenorthwest Jan 2015 #90

Band of Brothers. GGJohn Jan 2015 #91

Saw Selma this morning; think the complaints about Johnson are overplayed. el_bryanto Jan 2015 #94

LBJ will be the subject of a very well written HBO film starring Brayn Cranston based on the plays Bluenorthwest Jan 2015 #95

JFK arely staircase Jan 2015 #96

JFK is a legal thriller about the experiences of Jim Garrison, it's not a story about JFK and it is Bluenorthwest Jan 2015 #97

The Longest Day was very historically accurate. eom MohRokTah Jan 2015 #106

Tora, Tora, Tora. n/t. MicaelS Jan 2015 #108

They Live. Zorra Jan 2015 #113

The Star Wars prequel trilogy Orrex Jan 2015 #117

When fascism comes to America, it will come dressed as a Gungan Warren DeMontague Jan 2015 #120

fear and loathing in las vegas. Warren DeMontague Jan 2015 #119