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brett_jv

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41. I just have one question ... if this is such a GREAT campaign strategy ...

Reply to 1StrongBlackMan (Reply #37)

Mon Jan 26, 2015, 02:19 AM

Jan 2015

You know, "for 2016" ...

Why didn't our Democrats just introduce these progressive measures in, oh ... June of 2014?

Maybe they don't pass then, but they sure as hell don't pass NOW. And this stuff will be long forgotten in Nov. 2016.

By ANY logical measure, if this is a 'winning strategy' for right now ... electorally ... why the hell didn't they do it ... last summer ... or so, when an election was on the horizon?

I'm not calling out Bernie in any way, he's been calling for CU reform/repeal and introducing bills related to it for years now ... I mean (many of) the rest of them.

Why now? Seriously ... it's such blatant 'posturing for the base' it's not even funny. Very few of these people (again, Bernie notwithstanding, and a few others) appear to ACTUALLY CARE ... about CFR, or are actually willing to go to mat for it.

Sorry but it's VERY difficult for many of us to cheer this kind of move ... very much has a 'too little, too late' feel to it. If you really CARED, and you really had BALLS, Senators (not Bernie), you should've nutted up last friggin' summer.

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YES!!! -- House & Senate Democrats Introduce 12 Bills Targeted at Campaign Finance Reform [View all] KoKo Jan 2015 OP

Great to see them doing this now that they control Congress Orrex Jan 2015 #1

So they should just sit on their hands? Not even present the argument? nt SunSeeker Jan 2015 #2

They should have presented the argument when they had control of the Senate Orrex Jan 2015 #5

Speaking of strategically ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #12

Bingo. PotatoChip Jan 2015 #22

I expect a bunch of progressive legislation ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #23

How is presenting proposals going nowhere supposed to offset or make for something actually passed? TheKentuckian Jan 2015 #31

Okay,High rebuke taken ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #32

There is nothing to refute because it is vapor TheKentuckian Jan 2015 #39

Okay. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #40

By logical extension, Democrats will never be able to do anything, ever Orrex Jan 2015 #26

I suppose that made logical sense ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #27

You're not actually making what might be called a point Orrex Jan 2015 #28

Okay ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #30

I'll believe it when I see it Orrex Jan 2015 #33

Yes, I have ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #34

Again, we'll see. Orrex Jan 2015 #35

... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #37

I just have one question ... if this is such a GREAT campaign strategy ... brett_jv Jan 2015 #41

All of your questions/concerns have been addressed ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #44

totally agree rtracey Jan 2015 #36

Oh yeah. Octafish Jan 2015 #25

K & R SunSeeker Jan 2015 #3

The fact they will not pass the GOP Congress has nothing to with what good ideas they are. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #4

Why did they not push these terrific ideas when they held the Senate? Orrex Jan 2015 #7

They had the ideas all along, this is procedurally a different thing to bring a vote to the Senate floor on a Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #8

Well, yeah Orrex Jan 2015 #9

Sorry, have to agree to disagree on that, I think it is important. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #10

Ya think, Fred? malthaussen Jan 2015 #15

^^That Orrex Jan 2015 #21

It was also important six months ago Orrex Jan 2015 #20

Fred, there are Citzens Group actions going on out there, too...though. Here: KoKo Jan 2015 #13

Thank you. If folks only knew what a piece of judicial crap CU was , from every angle, not just Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #14

Might want to edit that. malthaussen Jan 2015 #16

Thanks. Good thing the context was in the same line, can not afford another misunderstanding. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #19

K to go along with the R. nt. NCTraveler Jan 2015 #6

Yes! Now, it's OUR turn to act ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #11

now they have the political cover of knowing that they'll never pass NightWatcher Jan 2015 #17

Why do Dems lead better from behind? 99th_Monkey Jan 2015 #18

Gotta Kick this for a bit of Democratic SPINE... KoKo Jan 2015 #24

Kabuki theater. Scuba Jan 2015 #29

Yes, but will the shows be popular? Maybe this is a test HereSince1628 Jan 2015 #45

Where were these ideas in 2009 and 2010? Why didn't they secure voting rights then? Scuba Jan 2015 #46

Wouldn't that view require dems to have not changed or learned anything since 2009? HereSince1628 Jan 2015 #47

What a bunch of crap.... Chakaconcarne Jan 2015 #38

They are all great ideas davidpdx Jan 2015 #42

Congress cannot overturn Citizens United davidn3600 Jan 2015 #43