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In reply to the discussion: Do Democrats spend more time criticizing other Democrats than they do criticizing Republicans? [View all]JonLP24
(29,886 posts)indefinite detentions continued, black sites continued, the "increase tensions" argument continues to be used as late as 2014 (don't know if a '15 example exists) to block releases such as how it relates to the Senate Torture Report which is contrasted by a memo he put out day 1 that things like torture photos shouldn't be kept hidden based on "subjective fears". Things like are ever expanding spy apparatus but now if a Democrat remains a critic of the Patriot Act then they are accused of being a Libertarian by Democrats for opposing the Patriot Act (I write plenty on how I feel about private business and support a mixed economy & safety nets, strong unions--clearly different from Libertarian ideology). He also expanded the powers of the executive powers by secret orders to kill US citizens by passing Habaes Corpus when as far as Bush went is the "dirty bomber" Jose Padilla was held in military custody for 3-years, probably tortured, fought it in court & tried to use the "enemy combatant" rule to justify giving charges or an opportunity to challenge his detention. Gave up, right before it went to the Supreme Court & now he is serving 20 years in Supermax for a thought crime. That was a horrible precedent in itself, but the "kill orders" is where he'd be worse than Bush.
Progressives are also a reliable consistent voting demographic for the Democratic Party. Basically the vast majority of votes Alison Lunden-Grimes did receive for all that distancing was from women, African-Americans, and the liberal wing and poor mainly from Louisville. Also don't forget the poor when it comes to reliable Democratic Party demographics.
I also voted for Obama twice, it kinda helps that I live here is I spend far more time depending him from outrageous claims & lies, & ulterior motives. Right after the 2012 election, I overhead a McDonald's worker express concern now that Obama won because of those poor old people & the death panels and how everyone will now be suffering from all these high taxes Obama is going to implement. Unlike the greedy assholes, she seemed to believe these things. One Republican expressed to their Republican friends that Obama "wants to cut social security" and the OMG concern response. I didn't bother to try to explain that one because it would be so pathetic, besides no matter what I try, most of them won't vote for Democrats anyways. Even saying you're liberal is treated as if it is a shocking revelation.
