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mnhtnbb

(33,232 posts)
7. We made plans--after disastrous 2004 election--to exit the country.
Mon Jan 26, 2015, 07:03 AM
Jan 2015

We were pursuing Panama, after looking closely at Belize. Canada will not take retirees--unless
you have a LOT of money (and after a brief look/see at New Zealand in 1994, decided not to go).
If the development where we were building a house in Panama (Bocas del Toro region on
the Caribbean side) had not experienced financial problems, I suspect we would be living there
now. We had opened bank accounts, applied for and received permanent resident visa status,
gotten our Jubilee cards (retirees get discounts on LOTS of things in Panama). After our fire
destroyed our house here in 2007 and the house we were building in Bocas had been stopped due to
not only the financial problems but labor issues/strikes, we finally gave up and decided we'd
be staying here in Chapel Hill.

Cautionary word to anyone who thinks about moving abroad: do not buy anything that isn't completed.
These were the typical US midwestern "boys next door" who were running this development and their
greed got them in over their heads--against the advice of their very well connected Panamanian attorneys.
They had ended up running a pyramid scheme. The development eventually was taken over by the investors
and the "boys" were run out of the process, and the development has actually completed some of the initial
plans and is operating. But what a mess. A lot of people lost a lot of money. It was only because we waited
and waited until the time was right--and our Panamanian attorney knew when to take advantage of some legal leverage--that we ended up
not waving goodby to the funds we had invested. Of course, it was several years waiting for that 'right time'
to happen.

So, beware! It is not the easy process that the folks at International Living would have you believe.

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My 'retirement income' is ok, elleng Jan 2015 #1
Cuz they prefer North Korea over Baltimore? zappaman Jan 2015 #2
LMAO! stevenleser Jan 2015 #16
So Balto. is a retirement destination, what's it like? appalachiablue Jan 2015 #17
Oh the wisdom of Zappaman. n/t truedelphi Jan 2015 #26
Here in Vegas the R/V parks are full of folks in your boots. Wellstone ruled Jan 2015 #3
our elected politicians of all parties allow us to be fleeced of all we have every few msongs Jan 2015 #4
I considered it during the BushCheney era, but the bottom line for me is this: my adult kids.... Hekate Jan 2015 #5
friend of mine near retirement plans to move to central america dembotoz Jan 2015 #6
I wonder.... CANDO Jan 2015 #27
We made plans--after disastrous 2004 election--to exit the country. mnhtnbb Jan 2015 #7
I would just rent.... n/t PasadenaTrudy Jan 2015 #25
That option is not generally available. jeff47 Jan 2015 #8
the article doesn't say anything about canada. ND-Dem Jan 2015 #10
Nope, just an example of a frequently mentioned place. jeff47 Jan 2015 #11
not frequently mentioned in this article. retirees don't go to other developed countries in search ND-Dem Jan 2015 #12
Yet frequently mentioned in this thread jeff47 Jan 2015 #14
i didn't see it mentioned at all in this thread, let along frequently. maybe i missed it, could ND-Dem Jan 2015 #15
If only that sentence had another clause. Perhaps after the "and". jeff47 Jan 2015 #22
The article is about retirees who want to immigrate because they don't make enough to live decently ND-Dem Jan 2015 #30
That pool is a subset of the retirees who want to immigrate. jeff47 Jan 2015 #31
Canada isn't difficult but it does require a strategy Sen. Walter Sobchak Jan 2015 #18
Congrats on the citizenship...nt SidDithers Jan 2015 #19
Congrats, but my understanding is age plays a very large part of it. jeff47 Jan 2015 #21
Chiang Mai is great oldandhappy Jan 2015 #9
How much is that? flamingdem Jan 2015 #13
The retirement visa oldandhappy Jan 2015 #20
Yeah, I could live like a queen on my retirement savings in another country - LiberalElite Jan 2015 #23
Will the exiled still vote? daredtowork Jan 2015 #24
A woman in my water aerobics class moved to Chiang Mai Lydia Leftcoast Jan 2015 #28
three more years.... mike_c Jan 2015 #29
My Friends Moved To Costa Rica AnnieBW Jan 2015 #32
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