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In reply to the discussion: WikiLeaks demands answers after Google hands staff emails to US government [View all]merrily
(45,251 posts)33. It says nothing that the Center for Constitutional Rights is making these arguments on behalf of
subscribers?
From the OP article:
The letter, written by WikiLeaks New York-based lawyer, Michael Ratner of the Center For Constitutional Rights, asks Google to list all the materials it provided to the FBI. Ratner also asks whether the California-based company did anything to challenge the warrants and whether it has received any further data demands it has yet to divulge.
People realize that the Center is acting in our interests under the Bill of Rights, right? Our First Amendment right to know. Our Fourth Amendment right to freedom from unreasonable searches and seizures--and googling does not necessarily, in and of itself, make a govt search of our research activities "reasonable?" Letting companies know that getting a warrant for OUR info does not necessarily let them totally off the hook, even if they make no effort to fight it?
ETA: ACLU also involved:
Alexander Abdo, a staff attorney and privacy expert at the American Civil Liberties Union, said the warrants were shockingly broad in their catch-all wording.
This is basically Hand over anything youve got on this person, he said. Thats troubling as its hard to distinguish what WikiLeaks did in its disclosures from what major newspapers do every single day in speaking to government officials and publishing still-secret information.
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WikiLeaks demands answers after Google hands staff emails to US government [View all]
malaise
Jan 2015
OP
Maybe to you. Who sought the order? How hard did Google fight it? How long was it in place?
merrily
Jan 2015
#5
It's not about telling wikileaks but subscribers. And how do you form an opinion without knowing?
merrily
Jan 2015
#8
And even judges have questioned whether they have been too cooperative with govt.
merrily
Jan 2015
#32
Loyalty to the administration/goverment or the Bill of Rights? Let's see, which is more important?
merrily
Jan 2015
#39
If the government has a classified warrant or FISA warrant...you think the people in the know should
snooper2
Jan 2015
#41
"First, don't be evil." Suggested addendum: Second, don't be a hypocrite about being evil.
merrily
Jan 2015
#2
I think WL has done some good (and some harm) but their complaints are ironic, at the least. nt
Nuclear Unicorn
Jan 2015
#6
I'm sure the legitimate intel assets that had their covers blown might disagree.
Nuclear Unicorn
Jan 2015
#16
It's always material for citizens to know who is snooping on which activities of theirs.
merrily
Jan 2015
#37
"It's always material for citizens to know who is snooping on which activities of theirs."
Nuclear Unicorn
Jan 2015
#40
"Subscribers" would be foolish to think they have privacy when affiliating with Wikileaks
Renew Deal
Jan 2015
#31
Because the American public almost 3 years ago was on top of this issue? And huh?
merrily
Jan 2015
#35
I mentioned the government. You attacked me. Now, THAT is, among other things, a nonsequitur.
merrily
Jan 2015
#30
It's the Center for Constitutional Rights doing the alleged whining on behalf of subscribers.
merrily
Jan 2015
#34
It says nothing that the Center for Constitutional Rights is making these arguments on behalf of
merrily
Jan 2015
#33
Some don't think any of that matters any more when ''Homeland Security'' is at steak.
Octafish
Jan 2015
#42