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Comrade Grumpy

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4. I guess his high-powered, high-dollar legal team should have gotten right on it.

Mon Jan 26, 2015, 01:02 PM

Jan 2015

Your post reeks of victim-blaming.

http://www.inquisitr.com/1559678/man-fights-30k-support-order-for-child-hes-never-met-dna-test-showed-hes-not-the-father/#Fo8Qc6ejKlhxppik.99

The child Carnell Alexander has been ordered to pay back child support for was born in 1987. Everyone agrees that the child isn’t his. He discovered that he was considered a father at a traffic stop in the early 90’s according to WXYZ News. Alexander told WXYZ News that the officer called him a deadbeat dad.

“I knew I didn’t have a child, so I was kind of blown back,” Alexander explained.

The court told Alexander that it was too late for the court to order a DNA test, he said. Alexander said that when he first discovered that the State of Michigan was ordering that he pay back child support, he didn’t even know where the mother of the child was or how to find her. Alexander said he tried explaining the situation to the court, but no one would help him. He said that Friend of the Court employees weren’t legally allowed to give him advice on the issue, and that he didn’t understand at the time what kind of formal steps would need to be taken to rectify the problem.

He said that one day, simply by chance, he ran into someone who was able to help him get in contact with the mother of the child that was said to be his. The woman said she knew he wasn’t the child’s father. A DNA test was arranged between the two and Alexander was right. He was not the father of the child that he was ordered to pay back child support for. In an odd twist, the actual father of the child was actually in the child’s life.

Armed with a DNA test and the mother’s acknowledgement that the child was not his, he approached the court again, but the judge would not free him of his support order.

“Case closed. I gotta pay for the baby,” Alexander remembered.

The reason why it was too late for a DNA test is because in the late 1980’s, the State of Michigan sent a process server to Alexander’s father’s house to deliver a summons. The process server’s documentation said that the summons was refused, but Alexander said he didn’t refuse. He says he wasn’t there. When WXYZ News checked the process server’s documents, Alexander’s story was accurate. He couldn’t have refused the summons at the Highland Park home because he was serving time in prison at the time.

Read more at http://www.inquisitr.com/1559678/man-fights-30k-support-order-for-child-hes-never-met-dna-test-showed-hes-not-the-father/#Fo8Qc6ejKlhxppik.99

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Detroit man faces prison for not paying child support for child who isn't his; sparking controversy [View all] davidn3600 Jan 2015 OP

Since he's apparently known about this for 20 years, it's nice to see him finally trying to resolve msanthrope Jan 2015 #1

That's the real issue kcr Jan 2015 #2

The way I read it, he tried to get it straightened out as soon as he became aware Bandit Jan 2015 #5

If it's shown he didn't know, he may be kcr Jan 2015 #9

read it again. ND-Dem Jan 2015 #15

I read it perfectly fine the first time kcr Jan 2015 #22

should be easy to determine; the court claims it served him. did it serve him in prison? ND-Dem Jan 2015 #27

That's fine kcr Jan 2015 #28

no problem with what? it's a matter of determing who signed the service document and i ND-Dem Jan 2015 #31

You're the one who seems to think I have one kcr Jan 2015 #33

you said you have "no problem with that". i didn't understand what "that" meant. it doesn't mean ND-Dem Jan 2015 #40

I'm not sure why that is. It was a direct response to a post you made. kcr Jan 2015 #42

thank you for the clarification. ND-Dem Jan 2015 #45

Yet you showed no shyness... tonedevil Jan 2015 #51

Point out where I declared he was irresponsible n/t kcr Jan 2015 #54

Post #2 tonedevil Jan 2015 #58

In neither of those do I state he's irresponsible or that I think he is. kcr Jan 2015 #59

Consider the meaning of these words... tonedevil Jan 2015 #60

Yes. The meaning of those words are kcr Jan 2015 #62

So you mean... tonedevil Jan 2015 #63

Either were remiss if they could have cleared it up but didn't, of course kcr Jan 2015 #64

It doesn't matter who signed it. That's not what determines service. nt msanthrope Jan 2015 #66

This message was self-deleted by its author kcr Jan 2015 #71

You are maintaining... tonedevil Jan 2015 #73

If the attempt was made at his last known legal address, and service was msanthrope Jan 2015 #77

so if some random person living at one's last known address signs it, you're served? ND-Dem Jan 2015 #82

His father isn't a "random person." nt msanthrope Jan 2015 #83

I didn't say he was. My post was in response to your #66. "It doesn't matter who signed it." ND-Dem Jan 2015 #88

He was served at his legal address. He doesn't have to be served in prison. nt msanthrope Jan 2015 #72

There seems to be some dispute about that. tonedevil Jan 2015 #74

This is legal bullshit from the NPO.... msanthrope Jan 2015 #78

You are clearly informed... tonedevil Jan 2015 #89

I have sympathy for him, too. There are no winners here. nt msanthrope Jan 2015 #90

Sure there is...the real father won big time. n/t JimDandy Jan 2015 #93

He should be sued. nt msanthrope Jan 2015 #94

I love know-it-alls who don't read the artcle, post anyway and sound stupid. That's the real issue. TeamPooka Jan 2015 #39

It was never his to pay. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jan 2015 #52

Well, there's the way we wish things were, and then there is reality kcr Jan 2015 #53

He didn't just say 'not me', though. He proved it. nt Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jan 2015 #56

I wasn't talking about him, I was addressing a general point. kcr Jan 2015 #57

I guess his high-powered, high-dollar legal team should have gotten right on it. Comrade Grumpy Jan 2015 #4

Actually it reeks but not for the reason you say. trumad Jan 2015 #6

Here's the thing---if his legal address was his father's house, it simply doesn't matter that he was msanthrope Jan 2015 #68

yes, he is obviously a bad dad and bad person all around snooper2 Jan 2015 #7

Considering he doesn't want to pay for the care of the child... jen1980 Jan 2015 #76

That's pretty harsh... Whiskeytide Jan 2015 #80

ITS NOT HIS KID HE ISNG ANY KIND OF DAD WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU ncjustice80 Jan 2015 #91

"then yes he *is* a bad dad." A... umm.. where is Mother's duplicity in this argument? OLDMADAM Jan 2015 #92

WTF are you talking about? LisaL Jan 2015 #103

The woman who set him up should go to prison seveneyes Jan 2015 #11

I don't think she set him up. cyberswede Jan 2015 #18

This is common Beaverhausen Jan 2015 #47

So the State can go... Whiskeytide Jan 2015 #79

She used his name instead of that of a real father. LisaL Jan 2015 #100

So it's his fualt that you can't read the whole story? He did and has been trying to resolve it TeamPooka Jan 2015 #34

Look--it doesn't take you 20 years to resolve child support. He's known about it since the early msanthrope Jan 2015 #65

Well...... Whiskeytide Jan 2015 #81

What you write sounds probable. And I have sympathy for him, in the sense that it is very msanthrope Jan 2015 #84

I tend to doubt the mother would spend the money on the child anyway bluestateguy Jan 2015 #3

In general or only in this case? nt geek tragedy Jan 2015 #8

Do you know her personally? cyberswede Jan 2015 #14

That is a real policy problem of which you speak bluestateguy Jan 2015 #23

they do it so they can go after the father for support. notadmblnd Jan 2015 #37

Or, they can stop requiring women to name someone to get benefits kcr Jan 2015 #41

I'm not making any proposals. notadmblnd Jan 2015 #43

You said she should be charged with welfare fraud. kcr Jan 2015 #44

If she gave thae mans name to get welfare knowing he was not the father notadmblnd Jan 2015 #49

Okay. Where's your proof she didn't know he was the father? n/t kcr Jan 2015 #55

because she told him dsc Jan 2015 #67

Is there another article with that info? I just went back and re read it in case I missed that kcr Jan 2015 #69

From the linked article. tonedevil Jan 2015 #75

Still don't see it, in either link. kcr Jan 2015 #85

This is from the link I provided. tonedevil Jan 2015 #87

That isn't in any link you provided or in the OP kcr Jan 2015 #95

I'm not the OP. /nt tonedevil Jan 2015 #97

I said IF notadmblnd Jan 2015 #86

Do you always assume people are lying? kcr Jan 2015 #96

answer a question with a question. Typical notadmblnd Jan 2015 #98

I completely agree. closeupready Jan 2015 #19

That's a separate issue and is not related to this article. nm rhett o rick Jan 2015 #29

You've got some serious fucking women issues. Or is it black issues? Pick one. nt TeamPooka Jan 2015 #35

More importantly... Glassunion Jan 2015 #10

This is something far more than being guilty because he signed his name on a birth certificate JonLP24 Jan 2015 #12

did you read the story? ND-Dem Jan 2015 #16

Not much further JonLP24 Jan 2015 #24

try reading, it's not about you ND-Dem Jan 2015 #26

I wasn't even making it about me JonLP24 Jan 2015 #30

Thanks for the ignorant post. Read the fucking story next time. Your facts are so wrong it's funny. TeamPooka Jan 2015 #36

What are my facts & how are they wrong JonLP24 Jan 2015 #48

LOL, you wrote all that out and are still wrong snooper2 Jan 2015 #99

Wait.... he's not the father (the mother lied), he wasn't involved in raising the kid, Nye Bevan Jan 2015 #13

I'm with him - this is simply not fair. closeupready Jan 2015 #17

The article indicates he won't go to jail cyberswede Jan 2015 #20

Only because he finally got a decent lawyer that took his case pro bono; along with media attention davidn3600 Jan 2015 #32

Judge suspended because of the growing publicity. Otherwise he would be in jail today. TeamPooka Jan 2015 #38

Carnell, you are NOT the father! KamaAina Jan 2015 #21

I've heard of this case over the years. tammywammy Jan 2015 #25

The biological father has been involved in the child's life vankuria Jan 2015 #46

scarystuffyo - deja vu seaglass Jan 2015 #50

He should not be charged with anything. Dawson Leery Jan 2015 #61

He's male GummyBearz Jan 2015 #70

This isn't about paying child support because the mother needs help. The STATE wants Alexander hughee99 Jan 2015 #101

And apparently the real father is known. LisaL Jan 2015 #102

A good question. My guess is that his name isn't on any forms, and while everyone knows hughee99 Jan 2015 #105

good thing he got a lawyer to help him. Now its cleared up, no jail or 30k tab. Sunlei Jan 2015 #104