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Ms. Toad

(38,759 posts)
22. I've been saving for retirement since I was in my teens
Tue Jan 27, 2015, 11:21 AM
Jan 2015

My tastes are modest. We've never had cable. We bought a home about half the size we could afford (according to those pushing us to buy more). Didn't get a cell phone until ~2003, and then shared a dumb phone between 3 of us until 2008, then 3 dumb phones. Got my first smart phone last year - on a $0 monthly payment plan. We drive cars which are 12 years old (at the youngest).

All else being equal, I'd sacrificed enough to save for a comfortable retirement. But things aren't equal. My spouse and daughter ended up with chronic illnesses and unable to work - my spouse for 10 years now, and she is only now approaching retirement age - so now my (60% lower as of a year ago) income is supporting both of them.

I'm now looking at not retiring until 72 (if they'll keep me) so that I can max out my defined benefit plan, to partly offset the double ding I get because I have the plan in the first place. ($0 income is figured into my Social Security for each year I contributed to a defined benefit plan - so I already take a hit on my SS benefits and on top of that, my SS benefit (based on 15 years at max payment +25 years at $0 payment) is reduced a second time because I will be receiving income from a state sponsored plan based on the years I contributed to the state plan. One hit or the other - hitting me twice is not cricket.)

But - for all my grumbling, I'm better off than most. I was lucky enough to always have employment that paid well enough to allow me to be able to save if I sacrificed the present for the future. I have never, since I was 12, been voluntarily unemployed. I know that is a luxury many don't have. My sister has nothing in the bank - and her work is much more physical than mine (house cleaning and cosmetology). Because both are tipped and she - like most tipped employees - didn't report a substantial portion of her tips, her SS income will be proportionately lower. Her body has taken a beating & she will have no choice but to work as long as she lives.

And my daughter - at 25 (a time when I already had several thousand dollars banked towards retirement) has not yet finished school or started working because her illness makes her too unpredictable as an employee - and as a student. .

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I too am interested. lovemydog Jan 2015 #1
Me too. I don't feel qualified to discuss it terribly well from a realpolitik POV, but... Bonobo Jan 2015 #2
Its breaking down olddots Jan 2015 #3
Ronald Reagan forced Japan to impose a 20% tax on all savings interest, Art_from_Ark Jan 2015 #4
Wuh? I didn't know my savings interest was being taxed! Bonobo Jan 2015 #5
Check it out next time you go into a bank Art_from_Ark Jan 2015 #6
Between that and the demand for Japanese businesses to save 50% of their annual net Bonobo Jan 2015 #7
Here's an explanation of the 20% savings interest tax Art_from_Ark Jan 2015 #8
Well, that was completely clear! ;) n/t Adrahil Jan 2015 #10
Translation: Art_from_Ark Jan 2015 #13
Thanks! Like most Americans, I'm useless if it's not in English.... Adrahil Jan 2015 #15
Thanks, even my wife did not know about it! nt Bonobo Jan 2015 #12
I have saved what used to be considered a nice pile of money historian Jan 2015 #9
We live in a global society that is based on more people doing more things The2ndWheel Jan 2015 #11
My plan is to work untill my death and then to be cremated in a cardboard box Orrex Jan 2015 #14
Let's face it... Bonobo Jan 2015 #16
Or discarded because you're over 50 LiberalEsto Jan 2015 #25
Or you can follow the advice of a Turkish (Communist) poet. (His biography KingCharlemagne Jan 2015 #19
wonderful poetry nt LiberalEsto Jan 2015 #26
+1 Blue_Tires Jan 2015 #28
The advantage of dropping dead at work is: someone's there to deal with it NBachers Jan 2015 #21
You have to have money in the present to save for the future. Octafish Jan 2015 #17
For your reading pleasure (and further consideration): KingCharlemagne Jan 2015 #18
Over time, I've become VERY pessimistic about the future. closeupready Jan 2015 #20
I've been saving for retirement since I was in my teens Ms. Toad Jan 2015 #22
Financial communes. Find neighbors or relatives to trust and pool all your money into one account... randome Jan 2015 #23
For the same reasons, the dollar is doomed. Orsino Jan 2015 #24
By now, everyone has seen this graph: Maedhros Jan 2015 #27
I'm disappointed but not surprised... There are no answers to this scary question. Bonobo Jan 2015 #29
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